The Ending (Spoilers)

[FreshRevenge]

So I just finished the game and just a bit confused. So I am assuming that Marianne shot herself to pretty much make the Maw(monster) pretty much useless and to release her sister Lily? Also I think Thomas was release from wherever he was in the game. The after the credit scenes shows a man picking up a pocket watch which was a gift to him for his 10th year anniversary.

I mean where does Marianne go if she committed suicide?

[Mijj]

I'm confused too. In my opinion I don't like Cliffhanger ending, is it suppose to finish with The Medium 2 or a DLC? I could accept the Marianne Cliffhanger (dead or not?) but what's the point showing the man at the end? Is it Thomas? To me Thomas was sent away after talking to Marianne (white flash light).

[FreshRevenge]

Originally posted by Mijj:

I'm confused too. In my opinion I don't like Cliffhanger ending, is it suppose to finish with The Medium 2 or a DLC? I could accept the Marianne Cliffhanger (dead or not?) but what's the point showing the man at the end? Is it Thomas? To me Thomas was sent away after talking to Marianne (white flash light).

Yeah I think it is Thomas. If you look at his shoes, there are the same and you can see the black leather gloves that he wears, in the scene where he looking for the red book that Richard kept his notes about what he did to Lily. Where he was is still a mystery, him walking away from that huge building structure with the white light is a clue but what is it exactly? Is it a gate way to the beyond?

The ending is pretty vague and doesn't really do a good job at closure. I don't mind that Marianne shoots herself but it just doesn't seem like a good solution.

[mr_tawan]

I was in an impression that ... wait, the cut-scenes between chapters (?) suggest that the story was told after the fact, but at the end she commit suicide ? After that I realized that those cutscenes were from when she's telling the spirit Thomas what happened so far. ...

Then the post-credit ending kinda suggests that there might be an alternate ending, may be I messed up somehow and get a bad ending. Looks like that's not the case.

[Double-D]

The guy at the end is definitely Thomas, meaning he survived his encounter with the Maw. As for the shot - it's open and it is meant to be open as I understand. She could have shot herself, she could have shot Lilly - both options are possible 50/50. The whole point is that "You can't save everyone, there's a choice to be made, no running away",
Maybe that's some form of artistic vision: instead of making the player actually pull the trigger at whoever they see fit, the game says: "Trigger has been pulled and it's up to you to decide who died. You can think whatever you like most".
Can't say I'm a fan of the idea, but at least it's not your usual "choose your ending" or "ending has been chosen based on how many notes you've picked up" story.

[MA-SIMON]

I have to admit. That ending sucked. Really unfair to pull that random move out their asses, for no reason at all. I guess they just wanted it to end somewhere?
I still have no clue who sadness was supposed to be? Did Lily have 2 counterparts? And why is she younger looking if she is supposed to be older then our protagonist?

Also: Wo the ♥♥♥♥ was that person that died in the beginning? I have no idea how that person related to the story?

All in all, not really a rewarding experience.

[FreshRevenge]

Originally posted by MA-SIMON:

I have to admit. That ending sucked. Really unfair to pull that random move out their asses, for no reason at all. I guess they just wanted it to end somewhere?
I still have no clue who sadness is supposed to be?

All in all, not really a rewarding experience.

Sadness is Lily or the good side of Lily in spirit form. The Maw was her anger, rage, hatred pretty much the bad side of Lily.

Lily ask the Maw to save her and her sister Marianne from the fire but at a price. Pretty much the Kiwa massacre.

I agree that the ending didn't really sit with me well. Because I doubt Marianne would shoot her sister and well if she shot herself, I don't think that would of stopped the Maw from escaping. It would of found another medium to wear to do it's bidding.

The person in the beginning was named Jack and it was her adoptive father.

[.:*|*Sway*|*:.]

Can someone explain how killing herself solves anything? The Maw still exists, it still can kill, it still can find another medium. Is this supposed to be a temporary solution just to keep Lily alive, and hope that it will resolve itself later somehow? Or is it just me dozing off when the game explained how it all makes sense?

[FreshRevenge]

Originally posted by .:*|*Sway*|*:.:

Can someone explain how killing herself solves anything? The Maw still exists, it still can kill, it still can find another medium. Is this supposed to be a temporary solution just to keep Lily alive, and hope that it will resolve itself later somehow? Or is it just me dozing off when the game explained how it all makes sense?

This is my very question. I just don't see how killing either of them solves the problem.

Unless Marianne was able to find a way into the spirit world and bring her gun a long and shoot the Maw.

[MA-SIMON]

The thing with Jack that confused me was that he showed up later for some reason?
I was also confused about the young child in the dayroom area. I though she was supposed to be Lily? Or was this some unrelated other random child? Why was the Archivment called Child"eater". It sounded like she was either raped or killed by that old guy? That for some reason was then an empty shell in a wheelchair?

There are so many holes in this story. I figure I will probably have listen to a full story explanation eventually...

[FreshRevenge]

Originally posted by MA-SIMON:

The thing with Jack that confused me was that he showed up later for some reason?
I was also confused about the young child in the dayroom area. I though she was supposed to be Lily? Or was this some unrelated other random child? Why was the Archivment called Child"eater". It sounded like she was either raped or killed by that old guy? That for some reason was then an empty shell in a wheelchair?

There are so many holes in this story. I figure I will probably have listen to a full story explanation eventually...

I think somehow the Maw was using your memories of Jack against you. It started saying all this stuff that would actually go against what Jack would say. Like Jack saying it was your fault etc. You were in a tunnel chasing Jack but all of a sudden you come across the Maw that basically you need to run from.

[MA-SIMON]

Originally posted by thefreshrevengehaven:

Originally posted by MA-SIMON:

The thing with Jack that confused me was that he showed up later for some reason?
I was also confused about the young child in the dayroom area. I though she was supposed to be Lily? Or was this some unrelated other random child? Why was the Archivment called Child"eater". It sounded like she was either raped or killed by that old guy? That for some reason was then an empty shell in a wheelchair?

There are so many holes in this story. I figure I will probably have listen to a full story explanation eventually...

I think somehow the Maw was using your memories of Jack against you. It started saying all this stuff that would actually go against what Jack would say. Like Jack saying it was your fault etc. You were in a tunnel chasing Jack but all of a sudden you come across the Maw that basically you need to run from.

That seems weird to me, because if he is a split from Lily, he would realistically know zero about any Jacks... D: Btw. thank you for all the explanations.

[FreshRevenge]

Originally posted by MA-SIMON:

Originally posted by thefreshrevengehaven:

I think somehow the Maw was using your memories of Jack against you. It started saying all this stuff that would actually go against what Jack would say. Like Jack saying it was your fault etc. You were in a tunnel chasing Jack but all of a sudden you come across the Maw that basically you need to run from.

That seems weird to me, because if he is a split from Lily, he would realistically know zero about any Jacks... D: Btw. thank you for all the explanations.

True but Lily would have a connection with her sister and vice versa. So it's not implausable that Maw would know since the Maw are one and the same in a sense.

I remember playing Silent Hill 2 a long time ago when it came out or so and I was left with so many questions. It's perplexing.

I might play it again but the ending is a little dismal for my tasting to play through again. It is like game developers don't know how to make a decent ending. It started good and it was going great but the ending just is meh.

[Ogami]

Originally posted by thefreshrevengehaven:

I might play it again but the ending is a little dismal for my tasting to play through again. It is like game developers don't know how to make a decent ending. It started good and it was going great but the ending just is meh.

Its kind of a trademark with this dev, all their games have depressing downer endings.

[carnivorousfishkabob]

Originally posted by MA-SIMON:

I have to admit. That ending sucked. Really unfair to pull that random move out their asses, for no reason at all. I guess they just wanted it to end somewhere?
I still have no clue who sadness was supposed to be? Did Lily have 2 counterparts? And why is she younger looking if she is supposed to be older then our protagonist?

Thomas seemed to have a different ability to Marianne, in that his spirit form was separate from him and could enter the inner worlds of individual people in addition to existing in the Spirit Worlds as a whole. He could also seemingly send away or destroy their souls. Whenever he did this, their was always the monster (or "demons") of the person within their world, as well as a child version of them representing the scared part of them that was hurt in order to cause these demons to exist. Sadness is that child version of Lily's soul.

Originally posted by MA-SIMON:

I was also confused about the young child in the dayroom area. I though she was supposed to be Lily? Or was this some unrelated other random child? Why was the Archivment called Child"eater". It sounded like she was either raped or killed by that old guy? That for some reason was then an empty shell in a wheelchair?

That girl was Lily. The old guy, Richard, did sexually assault her, and Thomas destroyed his soul in the way mentioned above to get revenge. That assault is what caused Lily to manifest the Maw and Sadness. After that, Richard was an empty shell until The Maw was released and possessed the nurse taking care of Richard and began its massacre. Hopefully that helps clear some things up. I mostly addressed the stuff I understood.

[Banz]

Man I'm confused too. Wth we need answers and explanations