B4 Vault Hunter´s - what is going on?

[Ackerlight]

They look not cool and unique but sterile and boring.
The Arab guy, the Asian girlboss, an old white Hulk and an african girlboss.
It´s like someone tried very hard hard to check all the boxes but lost all creativity on the way.

If the story, dialog and voice acting will be made by the same people who made it for TTW, New Tales from the Borderlands and B3, then omg.
The B3 Vault Hunters have the worst voice actors (german voice acting even more so) and dialog i´ve ever heard in a video game til this day.

The gearbox chief was heavy involved on Borderlands the Movie and he was very proud of this mess,

Gearbox, don´t mess up B4, give us a good story and unique chracters and fire the writing team of TTW and B3 and make Borderlands great again.

[Black Hole]

I think it's likely already cooked, but it will depend on the story if it does all that well.

[Junipercat]

The new Vault Hunters were not showcased well. Just a side by side strut. Obvious augmentation with big guy (though perhaps repair/replacement parts), hoses/cables going to legs for the one on the end, clear Siren tattoos, and a guy who is there (maybe with a jacket not quite the right size).

This is where we as players really need solid info. They may be holding out until PAX East next month, but some tidbits before then would be nice.

As for story, writing, and character development...could go either way. A further dumpster fire like BL3 or a course correction trying to improve. The fate of the series lies heavily with BL4.

[Holografix]

They look cool to me.

[Junipercat]

Originally posted by Holografix:

They look cool to me.

Ok, at face value that is fair as we each have our own opinion. However would you like to elaborate on that point? Or did you just want to post a "I disagree" statement as you are well known to dislike all comments that take issue with BL3 and the direction from it (such as BL4's limited portrayal of the new Vault Hunters).

So can you explain the "why"? That might facilitate discussion. If not, well thanks for sharing but you finding them cool doesn't change anything.

[Holografix]

Originally posted by Junipercat:

Originally posted by Holografix:

They look cool to me.

Ok, at face value that is fair as we each have our own opinion. However would you like to elaborate on that point? Or did you just want to post a "I disagree" statement as you are well known to dislike all comments that take issue with BL3 and the direction from it (such as BL4's limited portrayal of the new Vault Hunters).

So can you explain the "why"? That might facilitate discussion. If not, well thanks for sharing but you finding them cool doesn't change anything.

Thought this was a thread about 'what's going on with the VHs?' Just stating my opinion, like everyone else. None of these opinions will change anything.

[motsole]

to me they kind of look like self insert characters like you would see in The CW or on Netflix.
you need to look at them for a good while to even guess what they might do. I'm personally hoping they have skins like what they did at the end of bl3 so you can change their appearance fully and I hope that a few of them aren't behind a paywall and you can at least earn some of them.
I do agree with what some people are saying that they look like NPCs that would give you side quests in previous games. let's just hope their abilities make up for how bland play look
the curly haired one with glasses gives me Velma flashbacks.

[Black Hole]

They just dont look that unique or interesting, and we haven't been shown any cool abilities in depth.

[Kindred Spirit]

Without showcasing anything about them the VHs really look little different than the rest of the modern UE5 Corpo AI Slop being churned out in soul-less discordance with market fit.

"The Avengers assemble" means nothing if you don't know the characters individually.

BL trailers could give the characters some sense of identity before and didn't need YouTubers scouring for months trying to pick out everything for scraps, the hype was already there.

For example: Siren has been there since BL1 and was BL1's exotic, while ever since there's been an exotic or non-human. Zer0, Claptrap, FL4K, but none for this group.

[Junipercat]

Originally posted by Holografix:

Originally posted by Junipercat:

Ok, at face value that is fair as we each have our own opinion. However would you like to elaborate on that point? Or did you just want to post a "I disagree" statement as you are well known to dislike all comments that take issue with BL3 and the direction from it (such as BL4's limited portrayal of the new Vault Hunters).

So can you explain the "why"? That might facilitate discussion. If not, well thanks for sharing but you finding them cool doesn't change anything.

Thought this was a thread about 'what's going on with the VHs?' Just stating my opinion, like everyone else. None of these opinions will change anything.

Yes that is what the thread is about. If this was your first post in the forums then a more positive interested reply may have been warranted. But you have a history of only trying to go into detail about why everyone is wrong with disliking BL3 and the direction that may be leading into BL4.

So if you want to facilitate discussion, then WHY do you find them cool? What stands out to you as a good thing? Go into detail about what you find positive in them. Sure you'll deal with some disagreements, but at least it won't come off as "this is my opinion, follow it and obey" taking your post history into account.

A thread wanting to discuss the issues with the new VH's apparent design, your commenting "They look cool to me" is no better than someone jumping into your thread and just saying "X is horrible". That sounds more like voting or just jumping into a thread to troll. But if you elaborate, on the good or bad, then there is something to discuss.

I don't find the VH's cool, but I don't find them bad either. I find them blandly portrayed being the issue. Once info comes out on their personalities, backstory, theme, and individual showcasing, instead of side by side acting the same then I feel everyone can make more personal opinions on them. Equality and balance doesn't mean making them all seem the same, but that each are valued with their own individual quirks. So VHs may not be bad, but their spotlight was as didn't highlight them as individuals.

[Black Hole]

I hope there is more meaningful interactions with characters this time around, everyone was in just a static location the whole time, no one ever moved around and talked with others.

I dont see it happening, it's a problem a ton of games have, even my favorite series mass effect.

[NativeOne]

i'm NOT holding my breath either ..

~Man With Man Things

[ingosupercute]

It's funny how the same message hits different people differently. In my case I was doubting the game a lot (because AAA games these days aren't that great for me in general) until I saw the characters. I had major problems picking a character in 2 and 3 because none of them really spoke to me. I liked the NPCs more than the player characters... so I ended up picking the least repulsing of four "I don't wanna" choices.

In the pre sequel it was the other way around. I loved Athena, I loved Claptrap, I loved Handsome Jack and I also liked Nisha. Too bad I didn't really like the game as a whole so I didn't really play either of them as much as my out of necessity choice in the main games.

For 4 I can imagine playing as the Asian siren, the black nerdy girl or the Arab pretty boy. So that's three out of four that will give me a hard time picking someone. I just hope the game does not do too much whip latching, parcouring and underwater floating around. The main thing I hate about Pre is the zero gravity zones and the constant searching for O2 cannisters.

[Holografix]

Originally posted by Junipercat:

Originally posted by Holografix:

Thought this was a thread about 'what's going on with the VHs?' Just stating my opinion, like everyone else. None of these opinions will change anything.

So if you want to facilitate discussion, then WHY do you find them cool? What stands out to you as a good thing? Go into detail about what you find positive in them. Sure you'll deal with some disagreements, but at least it won't come off as "this is my opinion, follow it and obey" taking your post history into account.

VHs look cool to me. I don't know why. I always think the Borderlands VHs look cool. But I am sorry that I was forcing you to obey my opinions. Didn't mean to control your life like that.

[Ackerlight]

And let´s not forget this travesty of a video game made by the B3 and TTW and now now B4 writing team.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1454970/New_Tales_from_the_Borderlands/

[Holografix]

Originally posted by Ackerlight:

And let´s not forget this travesty of a video game made by the B3 and TTW and now B4 writers

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1454970/New_Tales_from_the_Borderlands/

that's on my wishlist. ill tell you what i think of it once i play it.