Lets be real

[Drackmore]

Even if we ignore the obvious DEI pandering. Does anyone actually expect it to be any good? Borderlands 2 was the only good borderlands and frankly with how bad BL1 was its a miracle it even got.

Borderlands 3 Presequel was an absolute trainwreck.

Borderlands 4 3 has absolutely no endgame besides sending the valkyrias to valhalla a billion and one times. (because who the hell even plays the pvp mode you have to pay for?). And lets not forget that they gimped the skill trees just so they could later re-sell those to us at a later date.

Tiny Tina's Wonderland is a boring mess just thrown together. Extremely meager weapon selection coupled with minuscule enemy variety means in under a steam refund window you're going to be seeing the same content before long with to little to make you want more.

Don't even get me started on Dragon Keep standalone (that they still are charging money for).

Borderlands 5 4 is clearly going to be DoA even without the pandering to a non-existent audience. The OG team behind BL2 is long gone, anthony burch was a lightning in a bottle and we're not going to recapture that. Tiny Tina is now just Tina, scooter is dead, and the odds of us seeing mechanic moxie are about as good as BL5 being passable.

And we already know Gearbox is most likely going to do something stupid like make the base game 70$ or 80$ with a preorder version for 100-120$.

Instead of wasting that much money just buy a better game, like Metal Gear Survive.

[AsianGirlLover]

Borderlands was never good. I regret buying the first 2 games on sale for like $10

[Disco]

Agreed. Even if I did enjoy tina wonderlands in the end I can see it's far from a borderlands 2 in terms of content and if we judge by how generic that BL4 trailer was and the time and efforts to produce that monstrosity of a movie I'd say it is logical to be worried about 4

[Boomie]

No go for me. Sorry. Anyway I hope rest of you will enjoy it. :)

[Junipercat]

Originally posted by AsianGirlLover:

Borderlands was never good. I regret buying the first 2 games on sale for like $10

Borderlands was good for many. But everyone likes something different. So it was never good for you. But to regret just $10 for the first 2 games seems a bit extreme. Unless you don't like shooters at all, I would think you would get at least that much value out of them.

BL1 - Ok, just a bit dry.

BL2 - Greatly enjoyed. Took the concept of the first and improved pretty much everywhere it needed to.

BL TPS - Good, but fell short a bit. More of a big DLC to BL2 in the end. Understandable content from the Australian team could feel out of place for some.

BL3 - Gameplay good and had fun with the playable characters. But overall writing, development of staple and new NPCs, and how they executed certain concepts and themes in the game was done horrible. The DLCs did mostly better (though they destroyed Gaige's character) but not enough to make up for where they went wrong.

[Drackmore]

Originally posted by Junipercat:

BL TPS - Good, but fell short a bit. More of a big DLC to BL2 in the end. Understandable content from the Australian team could feel out of place for some.

I won't say TPS is a complete wash but its just overall its extremely lackluster and the few good bits doesn't excuse the whole. Like Red & Belly was good, early game jack also good. But once pickles got involved it was just all down hill from there and don't even get me started on the side quests with the activists.

Sad part is that I largely enjoyed the character selection we got this time around, definitely more so than BL3. Claptrap's randomness and change in mechanics was neat.
Though it does feel a bit weird with all the coop interactive skills everyone seemed to have like claptrap's high five, auralia's contract, and w/e it was jack did.

I think its just I was waiting for that moment for everything to come together and the gameplay and story to peak and it just never did. Like in BL2 ♥♥♥♥ got real once sanctuary took flight and that's when it felt like the story really picked up.

in TPS the closest you get is when Jack starts killing off everyone but it didn't really escalate from there (and its not like he was wrong at any point for how he acted, constantly getting stabbed in the back at every turn)

Originally posted by Junipercat:

BL3 - Gameplay good and had fun with the playable characters. But overall writing, development of staple and new NPCs, and how they executed certain concepts and themes in the game was done horrible. The DLCs did mostly better (though they destroyed Gaige's character) but not enough to make up for where they went wrong.

Gameplay was alright, but the characters were largely trash. Siren was a snooze and Fl4k's kit was just utter trash (which is a shame because design-wise I love his look and his voicelines and lore). The only characters that even remotely playable are Zane and Moze (Latter of which lives and dies with nuke bear in OP10)

Its story was definitely a MASSIVE improvement over BL3 and ill admit that at points it got up there with BL2 like the portion with penn and teller. But it still largely fell flat comparatively to BL2.

I didn't bother with any of the DLCs so I don't know how they ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up Gaige and at this point I'd rather stay uninformed and just remember her from the valentine's day headhunter dlc from BL2.

[Hesh]

Legit, I don't care if it is good or not. They're in here banning people for opinions, banning people for non-offensive speech. Censorship is not something I will support in any way and there's no way I will buy this game. Ever.

[ifhope]

No go for me. Sorry.

[zimmed]

I liked 2 and 3. Obviously the writing in 3 was immensely worse than 2, but the game-play was still enjoyable.

We'll see what happens with 4. Chances are that the game-play will be the same as 3 with an even worse story. I'm not very hopeful.

[Junipercat]

Originally posted by Hesh:

Legit, I don't care if it is good or not. They're in here banning people for opinions, banning people for non-offensive speech. Censorship is not something I will support in any way and there's no way I will buy this game. Ever.

I think the issue is more that people are doing a mass spam that is getting them locked. Flooding the forum with copy/paste is not constructive and is lock/ban worthy as it is just spam at this point.

[tcreel96]

Originally posted by Junipercat:

Originally posted by Hesh:

Legit, I don't care if it is good or not. They're in here banning people for opinions, banning people for non-offensive speech. Censorship is not something I will support in any way and there's no way I will buy this game. Ever.

I think the issue is more that people are doing a mass spam that is getting them locked. Flooding the forum with copy/paste is not constructive and is lock/ban worthy as it is just spam at this point.

The issue is that all of this started happening because they banned someone for literally just saying that they weren't gonna buy it while hoping that everyone else enjoys it

[ATANETTA]

Originally posted by Junipercat:

Originally posted by Hesh:

Legit, I don't care if it is good or not. They're in here banning people for opinions, banning people for non-offensive speech. Censorship is not something I will support in any way and there's no way I will buy this game. Ever.

I think the issue is more that people are doing a mass spam that is getting them locked. Flooding the forum with copy/paste is not constructive and is lock/ban worthy as it is just spam at this point.

they somewhat stopped spamming and gathered in my post and then all of the posts started getting merged. hmmmm?

[Junipercat]

Originally posted by tcreel96:

The issue is that all of this started happening because they banned someone for literally just saying that they weren't gonna buy it while hoping that everyone else enjoys it

I suspect there is more to it than that. If the poster was harassing someone or was spamming replies that with other context confirmed as sarcastic, rude or the like, then it would make it appropriate. However if someone locked them out for the wrong reason, or just accidental (wrong post or just not paying enough attention), then it needs to be addressed.

But this spam riot is nothing good. Just people making fools of themselves.

[Holografix]

Originally posted by Hesh:

Legit, I don't care if it is good or not. They're in here banning people for opinions, banning people for non-offensive speech. Censorship is not something I will support in any way and there's no way I will buy this game. Ever.

mods banning people for spam is not censorship, princess.

[ATANETTA]

Originally posted by Holografix:

Originally posted by Hesh:

Legit, I don't care if it is good or not. They're in here banning people for opinions, banning people for non-offensive speech. Censorship is not something I will support in any way and there's no way I will buy this game. Ever.

mods banning people for spam is not censorship, princess.

Hesh bro Don't take this [REDACTED] seriously. and this wasn't a spam until someone got banned for saying his opinion.

[tcreel96]

Originally posted by Holografix:

Originally posted by Hesh:

Legit, I don't care if it is good or not. They're in here banning people for opinions, banning people for non-offensive speech. Censorship is not something I will support in any way and there's no way I will buy this game. Ever.

mods banning people for spam is not censorship, princess.

the original ban wasn't for spam, which is the real issue