GWENT: The Witcher Card Game

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kek 2020 年 5 月 24 日 下午 2:59
What's the best grinding strategy (ore->kegs->cards)?
So, I'm new at this and have the following question.

Assuming you don't intend to buy ore, at least yet, and just want to grind it by playing.

It seems like the best strategy is to get the absolute minimum playable decks and just play with them for as long as possible without converting ore to kegs and unlocking new cards.

You do it until you reach at least prestige 5, which guarantees you a premium card in every keg (10 would be even better, but probably not realistic).

This way you get the most out of your kegs, and thus out of your ore. Better bang for the buck so to speak.

Is this correct or are there any practical reasons why it would be better to open kegs and build a stronger deck earlier rather than later? I hope it's the latter because it definitely doesn't sound like fun playing a bazillion games with massively underpowered decks.
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Tooru 2020 年 5 月 24 日 下午 3:37 
id suggest you pick 2-4 factions you really really like and just mill every other faction, its not realistic waiting until you hit prestige 5 you have to level up to 60 5 times.
you should do easy contracts for points so that you can get some stuff from reward pages, i'd recommend going for the wererat one and filling it up as you will get a lot of ore and also a board once filled up
Kawayol 2020 年 5 月 24 日 下午 3:47 
Um...isn't Prestige the ranking you get when you're reset to 1 after you level up to level 61? That means to get to "Prestige 5" you have to reset at least 5 times over, meaning at least 305 levels? That is in no way "easy" or "fast" at all, even if you're playing faction that currently has the highest seasonal EXP boost percentage bonus going on (it's currently Skellige and Syndicate, with +75%).
最後修改者:Kawayol; 2020 年 5 月 24 日 下午 3:50
kek 2020 年 5 月 24 日 下午 4:07 
引用自 陳躍文
Um...isn't Prestige the ranking you get when you're reset to 1 after you level up to level 61? That means to get to "Prestige 5" you have to reset at least 5 times over, meaning at least 305 levels? That is in no way "easy" or "fast" at all, even if you're playing faction that currently has the highest seasonal EXP boost percentage bonus going on (it's currently Skellige and Syndicate, with +75%).

Exactly, by my calculations in Excel you need 351750 XP to get to level 5 and if you play with an XP boosted faction and get 85 XP per match on average and manage to play 5 games per hour it's going to take ~827 hours of playtime to get there :)
Kawayol 2020 年 5 月 24 日 下午 4:23 
...and you're thinking that's "fast" and "grinding-worthy"? Man, I guess situation with COVID lockdown is just THAT bad in your country, eh? Well, good look to you, then. Just don't try to "grind" in ranked, lol. Nothing good comes out of that. In seasonal you don't lose ranking and your loses don't get added to the ratio, is what I'm saying. And you'll be losing A LOT if you don't have Defender card for your faction of choice, so that'll make "grinding" even more miserable in the end.
最後修改者:Kawayol; 2020 年 5 月 24 日 下午 4:26
kek 2020 年 5 月 24 日 下午 4:44 
引用自 陳躍文
...and you're thinking that's "fast" and "grinding-worthy"?

Man, that is exactly what I meant: I find it neither fast nor fun. It just seems the most efficient in terms of converting ore into cards. Again, unless I'm missing something, which I hope I am.

But anyway, thanks for the tip about non-ranked, I should consider that.
✪ Wuhan Warrior 🍉🍉 2020 年 5 月 24 日 下午 7:12 
引用自 Tooru
id suggest you pick 2-4 factions you really really like and just mill every other faction, its not realistic waiting until you hit prestige 5 you have to level up to 60 5 times.
you should do easy contracts for points so that you can get some stuff from reward pages, i'd recommend going for the wererat one and filling it up as you will get a lot of ore and also a board once filled up

This is a horrible idea.

Do NOT ever mill other faction cards, even if you don't intend to play them in the short term, if it's not a duplicate.

It is often detrimental, aside from the meagre scraps you get from milling a legendary-other faction card you might have gotten from a keg- which would have helped you in your collection when you decide you got bored of playing the same deck.

Get to prestige 1, then start opening majority of the kegs. In prestige 1, you are guarenteed 2 rares, at least. I have had kegs where there were even 2 legendaries in 1.

Also, not sure what is the deal with ranked play? You can't lose levels in ranked play. I got to pro rank the month I first started this game, and wasn't really trying that hard, until I reached like rank 3, to maximize the end of season rewards each player get based on rank.

Real story: A random guy added me on Gwent, after I beaten him in ranked play 3/3 times we met at around rank's 2-3. He was playing Syndicate last month before the nerfs hit (because apparently SY was broken and was very strong). I saw his collection, in which he only had Syndicate cards, so I presume he milled everything else. When the nerf hammer hit earlier this month, he then started milling Syndicate cards and try to move to Nilfgaard, based on his collection. Then he completely stopped playing. (Guess he realized his mistake, following the meta) LOL.
最後修改者:✪ Wuhan Warrior 🍉🍉; 2020 年 5 月 24 日 下午 7:17
Kawayol 2020 年 5 月 25 日 上午 12:31 
Do NOT ever mill other faction cards
Even though I agree on this one, what should be also mentioned is you MUST at least STRIP AWAY all of the cards from the factions which you're currently not using. This is important because decks for other factions tend to get filled with "Neutral" ratio cards (such as items/artifacts or even "Character" cards), the ones which you can equip on ANY faction disregarding it's alignment (doesn't matter if it's "light" or "dark" side), so it's VERY much required to always have all of the possible extra spares of Neutral cards on hand when you're building a deck for your primary faction of choice at the time. For example, I made a mistake of milling 3 HP Geralt card when I've only just started playing the game for the first time ever because I was an absolute newbie and didn't know what I was doing, but by looking up at other factions and finding out that one of them has this exact same card set in it's deck, I stripped it away and managed to essentially restore it back to my main faction's deck of choice, because it's NOT available for as long as it's equipped, so if any other faction has a card which you KNOW you can equip, but your faction's deck doesn't have it - STRIP IT AWAY from the faction you're not currently playing, then you can use it on yours.


You can't lose levels in ranked play.
While that is technically true and you don't lose general levels in ranked, what you DO lose however is puzzle pieces and the rank itself (and you usually need to get at least 4 puzzle pieces in a row to build a new stained glass avatar, which progresses you by a rank), if you lose more than two times in a row. And your loses in ranked get accumulated in your worldwide win/lose ratio stats, so losing much more than winning not only makes it look bad in on by itself on the global ranking boards, but will also determine how low you'll fall on the global rankings to begin with, making it MUCH harder to raise higher after that. Playing ranked and winning, if I remember it correctly, gives more EXP and "keys" than when playing seasonal, but in seasonal you at least won't lose a rank/a puzzle piece and your loss won't count to the global score, However, seasonal usually has pretty BS extra rules/mutators, so it's sometimes even HARDER to win there than in the "clean" ranked.
最後修改者:Kawayol; 2020 年 5 月 25 日 上午 12:43
✪ Wuhan Warrior 🍉🍉 2020 年 5 月 26 日 上午 3:24 
引用自 陳躍文
Do NOT ever mill other faction cards
Even though I agree on this one, what should be also mentioned is you MUST at least STRIP AWAY all of the cards from the factions which you're currently not using. This is important because decks for other factions tend to get filled with "Neutral" ratio cards (such as items/artifacts or even "Character" cards), the ones which you can equip on ANY faction disregarding it's alignment (doesn't matter if it's "light" or "dark" side), so it's VERY much required to always have all of the possible extra spares of Neutral cards on hand when you're building a deck for your primary faction of choice at the time. For example, I made a mistake of milling 3 HP Geralt card when I've only just started playing the game for the first time ever because I was an absolute newbie and didn't know what I was doing, but by looking up at other factions and finding out that one of them has this exact same card set in it's deck, I stripped it away and managed to essentially restore it back to my main faction's deck of choice, because it's NOT available for as long as it's equipped, so if any other faction has a card which you KNOW you can equip, but your faction's deck doesn't have it - STRIP IT AWAY from the faction you're not currently playing, then you can use it on yours.

No, you shouldn't strip anything that isn't a duplicate.

There are some legendaries however, which are quite useless. But then again, it is possible CDPR may rework those in the near future, and you won't get the chance to "unmill" your cards.


You can't lose levels in ranked play.
While that is technically true and you don't lose general levels in ranked, what you DO lose however is puzzle pieces and the rank itself (and you usually need to get at least 4 puzzle pieces in a row to build a new stained glass avatar, which progresses you by a rank), if you lose more than two times in a row. And your loses in ranked get accumulated in your worldwide win/lose ratio stats, so losing much more than winning not only makes it look bad in on by itself on the global ranking boards, but will also determine how low you'll fall on the global rankings to begin with, making it MUCH harder to raise higher after that. Playing ranked and winning, if I remember it correctly, gives more EXP and "keys" than when playing seasonal, but in seasonal you at least won't lose a rank/a puzzle piece and your loss won't count to the global score, However, seasonal usually has pretty BS extra rules/mutators, so it's sometimes even HARDER to win there than in the "clean" ranked.

If you don't try, you don't progress. The current system is friendly enough so as not to derank the player for trying new strategies with their deck.

At the end of the season, you get sweet RP based on your rank. https://support.cdprojektred.com/en/gwent/pc/gwent-gameplay/issue/1108/season-end-rewards

That should be enough to motivate any player to just play ranked (with a nothing to lose mentality)- the more RP you get, the faster you get your deck to pro ladder, period.
最後修改者:✪ Wuhan Warrior 🍉🍉; 2020 年 5 月 26 日 上午 3:26
Kawayol 2020 年 5 月 26 日 上午 3:54 
you shouldn't strip anything that isn't a duplicate
If you're not currently playing/going to use that faction you're stripping a card from, to use this card with the faction you're currently playing - then why not? You're literally not losing anything, because even if there's no duplicates you can always return that card back to the other faction from the one you're currently using, if you were to decide to change factions. I've done that a couple times already, everything is fine. Sure, having extra spare copies is fine, but if you DON'T have extra copies of Neutral/Character/Item/Artifact cards, then you pretty much don't have a choice anymore to begin with and have to get by with whatever you have on your hand currently.

The current system is friendly enough so as not to derank the player
Except that it will once the season is over. It's true that you can't lose a gained rank for as long as the seasonal bonus is going on, so for the current time being, but once the season ends you'll be always dropping by a rank if you lose two times in a row to anyone. And this season ends soon.
最後修改者:Kawayol; 2020 年 5 月 26 日 上午 3:58
✪ Wuhan Warrior 🍉🍉 2020 年 5 月 26 日 上午 4:00 
引用自 陳躍文
you shouldn't strip anything that isn't a duplicate
If you're not currently playing/going to use that faction you're stripping a card from, to use this card with the faction you're currently playing - then why not? You're literally not losing anything, because even if there's no duplicates you can always return that card back to the other faction from the one you're currently using, if you were to decide to change factions. I've done that a couple times already, everything is fine. Sure, having extra spare copies is fine, but if you DON'T have extra copies of Neutral/Character/Item/Artifact cards, then you pretty much don't have a choice anymore to begin with and have to get by with whatever you have on your hand currently.

Read my post about a guy who did that and stopped because his deck was only full competitive on SY and when the nerfs hit, he quit.

If you do that, you risk the exact same thing happening to you.

Also, meta always shifts. You will eventually get bored of the 1-2 decks you are playing, and when that happens what? Mill all the cards from the 2 decks and *pray* to RNG to get the good cards from another faction? Or pay $$$ to continue to play? Or just quit?

Tough choices. Just don't mill other cards which aren't duplicates, easy solution.

Milling only gives you 1/4th of the scraps. It is easier to grind cards you need to craft or open new faction specific kegs to get whatever you need.
最後修改者:✪ Wuhan Warrior 🍉🍉; 2020 年 5 月 26 日 上午 4:14
Kawayol 2020 年 5 月 26 日 上午 4:16 
Read MY post about me referring ONLY to Neutral/Character/Item cards TO BEGIN WITH.
I'm not (and WASN'T in any way, shape, or form) talking about faction/alignment-exclusive cards.
Neutral and Character/Item/Artifact cards can be equipped by ANY faction, so it DOESN'T matter.


P.S.
I don't mill manually, ever. I leave for the game to do automatic milling of everything that was obtained over usable extra spares. What baffles me the most, though, is that some cards can't be milled AT ALL.
最後修改者:Kawayol; 2020 年 5 月 26 日 上午 4:19
✪ Wuhan Warrior 🍉🍉 2020 年 5 月 26 日 上午 4:19 
引用自 陳躍文
Read MY post about me referring ONLY to Neutral/Character/Item cards TO BEGIN WITH.
I'm not (and WASN'T) talking about faction-exclusive cards. Neutral and Character/Item cards can be equipped by ANY faction, so it DOESN'T matter.

I really don't understand whatever you are trying to say. Are you saying to strip or mill all neutral cards you are not playing?

Anyway the word "strip" is not existant in the Gwent game. So yeah, whatever.
Kawayol 2020 年 5 月 26 日 上午 4:23 
What is there to not understand? Am I not speaking in English language well enough for you (well EXCUUUUUSE me, Princess, in such of a case, because English is not my primary/native language, so I guess you need a translation of some kind, or something?) to get/process/learn right away everything that's been written? Stripping NEUTRAL/CHARACTER/ITEM/ARTIFACT cards does NOT mill/destroy/sell/give away them, IT MERELY ADDS THEM TO THE OVERALL POOL.
A pool from which you can equip the card to ANY faction afterwards. It's a SINGULAR pool.
The phrase "stripping away" means de-equipping something from something/someone.
最後修改者:Kawayol; 2020 年 5 月 26 日 上午 4:31
✪ Wuhan Warrior 🍉🍉 2020 年 5 月 26 日 上午 4:25 
引用自 陳躍文
What is there to not understand? Am I not speaking in English language well enough for you (well EXCUUUUUSE me, Princess, in such of a case, because English is not my primary/native language, so I guess you need translation of some kind, or something?) to get/process right away everything that's been written? Stirpping NEUTRAL/CHARACTER/ITEM/ARTIFACT cards does NOT mill/destroy/sell/give away them, IT MERELY ADDS THEM TO THE OVERALL POLL. A poll from which you can equip this card to ANY faction afterwards.

Lol. Are you ranting? Yes, it's obvious your English is pretty hard to understand.

The word; "stripping" does not EXIST IN GWENT.

Maybe try speaking chinese to me, I might understand you better. :steammocking:
Kawayol 2020 年 5 月 26 日 上午 4:28 
Dude, are you even for real? Or are you merely trying to (very badly so) troll, or something?

"Stripping something away" is a GENERAL, everyday talking term. It's NOT a game-specific terminology. You're friggin' amusing. The term "to strip away" been around for CENTURIES.
最後修改者:Kawayol; 2020 年 5 月 26 日 上午 4:29
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