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Jack 2023年8月1日 12時07分 
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Unnecessary 2nd Currency.

The first sign of predatory game design and production.

DLC-itis is the second.
IE : When the DLC collectively costs more than the base-game.

No anti-cheat is the third.
IE : R* and every game they've produced.

You appear to be suffering from the first two signs of a predator.

Please change your business model.
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Jack の投稿を引用:
Unnecessary 2nd Currency.

The first sign of predatory game design and production.
You can buy gems using in-game currency and earn gems from achievements. You are proposing that those instead lie to you and call it "united states dollars".

Jack の投稿を引用:
DLC-itis is the second.
IE : When the DLC collectively costs more than the base-game.
The base game costs $0. Are you accusing every free game of having predatory business practices? Because your definition would consider a completely free game with a supporter pack to be infinitely predatory.
Jack の投稿を引用:
Unnecessary 2nd Currency.

The first sign of predatory game design and production.

DLC-itis is the second.
IE : When the DLC collectively costs more than the base-game.

No anti-cheat is the third.
IE : R* and every game they've produced.

You appear to be suffering from the first two signs of a predator.

Please change your business model.
I agree on your second point but the first point is so that you can get people to play the game and taste the waters before they want to buy it, it would be great if all games worked like that!
Jack の投稿を引用:
Unnecessary 2nd Currency.

The first sign of predatory game design and production.

DLC-itis is the second.
IE : When the DLC collectively costs more than the base-game.

No anti-cheat is the third.
IE : R* and every game they've produced.

You appear to be suffering from the first two signs of a predator.

Please change your business model.

Not only that, the game drowns you with so much trash loot that you're basically forced to purchase bag and bank expansion slots, and salvage tools, in order to process it all without having to stop and play Inventory Wars 2 every 20 minutes.
Nibbie 2023年8月1日 15時06分 
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Jack の投稿を引用:
Unnecessary 2nd Currency.

The first sign of predatory game design and production.

DLC-itis is the second.
IE : When the DLC collectively costs more than the base-game.

No anti-cheat is the third.
IE : R* and every game they've produced.

You appear to be suffering from the first two signs of a predator.

Please change your business model.

Not only that, the game drowns you with so much trash loot that you're basically forced to purchase bag and bank expansion slots, and salvage tools, in order to process it all without having to stop and play Inventory Wars 2 every 20 minutes.

Hard disagree. I went years before buying any of that, and had little problem. Buy half a dozen salvage kits whenever you pass by a merchant, and all the 'trash' you pick up magically turns into money. If you don't mind burning a few mystic stones, you can also just make a Mystic Salvage Kit or two instead, to save even more space. They even made it so a lot of drops are condensed into unidentified gear now, so there is even less mess than there was when I started playing.

Eight years in now and I still have only purchased one bank slot and the copper fed salvage tool to handle my inventory; bag slots are such a bad deal I can only see the really dedicated even considering them. You can single-press sell all actual junk to literally any merchant, and they are scattered over every map. You can salvage-all any equipment that isn't exotic/ascended (which are rare enough to not be considered clutter), and deposit all materials you got from salvaging instantly. I typically do a couple minutes of "Inventory Wars 2" once or twice a few hour play session, certainly not three times an hour; unless you actually mean the five clicks/seconds to "open inventory, salvage all, deposit all" in there.

You can pretty cheaply get all your bags to 18 slots, for almost 100 slots per character. You can easily use a few slots on each of them for storing things so you don't need to buy more space. Even if you really feel that you have to buy more space, you can buy character slots instead; getting up to 9 character slots makes sense anyway so you can have one of each character, and as mentioned they come with almost 100 slots of storage, instead of the couple dozen that a bank or bag slot gives. It really was only after years of play did I feel that I had accumulated enough stuff I wanted to keep that buying the things I mentioned was worthwhile.
coyotes 2023年8月1日 19時54分 
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Nibbie の投稿を引用:
Dapper Tardigrade の投稿を引用:

Not only that, the game drowns you with so much trash loot that you're basically forced to purchase bag and bank expansion slots, and salvage tools, in order to process it all without having to stop and play Inventory Wars 2 every 20 minutes.

Hard disagree. I went years before buying any of that, and had little problem. Buy half a dozen salvage kits whenever you pass by a merchant, and all the 'trash' you pick up magically turns into money. If you don't mind burning a few mystic stones, you can also just make a Mystic Salvage Kit or two instead, to save even more space. They even made it so a lot of drops are condensed into unidentified gear now, so there is even less mess than there was when I started playing.

Eight years in now and I still have only purchased one bank slot and the copper fed salvage tool to handle my inventory; bag slots are such a bad deal I can only see the really dedicated even considering them. You can single-press sell all actual junk to literally any merchant, and they are scattered over every map. You can salvage-all any equipment that isn't exotic/ascended (which are rare enough to not be considered clutter), and deposit all materials you got from salvaging instantly. I typically do a couple minutes of "Inventory Wars 2" once or twice a few hour play session, certainly not three times an hour; unless you actually mean the five clicks/seconds to "open inventory, salvage all, deposit all" in there.

You can pretty cheaply get all your bags to 18 slots, for almost 100 slots per character. You can easily use a few slots on each of them for storing things so you don't need to buy more space. Even if you really feel that you have to buy more space, you can buy character slots instead; getting up to 9 character slots makes sense anyway so you can have one of each character, and as mentioned they come with almost 100 slots of storage, instead of the couple dozen that a bank or bag slot gives. It really was only after years of play did I feel that I had accumulated enough stuff I wanted to keep that buying the things I mentioned was worthwhile.

The fact you had to write that much on how to circumvent the cash shop for this issue speaks volumes. But I don't think you could disagree that the sheer amount of trash loot you get in this game is ridiculous, certainly more than any MMO I've personally played. It is a huge annoyance, made so intentionally in order to persuade you to spend money--because despite other methods the quickest, easiest, most logical way to deal with it is to buy more bag & bank space and tools. I would argue that is predatory indeed. Anything that hurts the game experience, where a far easier and more convenient remedy can be found in the cash shop than any in-game circumvention, is in my eyes predatory.

The worst part is that even then, when you have all the tools and bag space, it's still a chore to have to constantly sort and salvage all the trash. There's no reason to still be getting mounds of greens and blues in max level content. Which is like...more than half the game at this point. Sure, you get mats and luck from salvaging, but why don't they just give you those instead? Hell, how about putting it all directly into my bank and automatically applying the essences of luck? It's going there anyway. But they wouldn't do that because they know that it leads people into the cash shop. After 11 years without real change, we can safely assume this is absolutely intentional.
BUY BUY BUY SUPPORT SUPPORT SUPPORT
Servers cost money to run and upkeep, and people need to be paid for ongoing work...
yes, but that should not be excuse for being predatory
placeholder 2023年8月2日 13時56分 
Jack の投稿を引用:
Unnecessary 2nd Currency.

The first sign of predatory game design and production.

DLC-itis is the second.
IE : When the DLC collectively costs more than the base-game.

No anti-cheat is the third.
IE : R* and every game they've produced.

You appear to be suffering from the first two signs of a predator.

Please change your business model.

thanks for being actually authentic, most gw2 and its monetization supporters are part of a very toxic community, one of the worst of all mmorpgs
chjk122 2023年8月2日 22時38分 
I quit after they gave me a mount and took it away. its predatory and bad game design
Just my luck they discount the things I bought the day after I bought them...

Loving the game just started it so looking forward to getting in to all the dlcs I bought.
Eli 2023年8月3日 9時52分 
When are you ending your sale of Build template storage expansion considering you can easily save build storage in a notepad and they are so expensive you are basically scamming customers that don't know any better? Hell, you can create a Guild and save your builds in a message of the day.
so many angry poors , get a job you scrubs xD
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