Guild Wars 2

Guild Wars 2

New player questions & first impression. ♡
Okay so.. the game seems amazingly fun from the beginning. Combat seems cool also, fast enough to get new skills to feel progression immediately just doing the starter zone big thingy area. =)

But as a FF14 player i'm kinda used to the subscription model where i just pay the 13eur/month and get ALL the content and no locks or other things that are made "difficult"/problems and then solution sold on cash shop to make playing feel more smooth and fun with QoL improvements that sub games get with the sub (obviously) and all best glams/skins/outfits are farmable in game and not in cash store..

So to the question: How much would it cost me (in Euro) to get a smooth experience as a new player with minimal amount of "obstacles" on having fun? Like how much and what are the most needed unlocks in the gem store?

Any other new player who started to play this year has an actual number for money they spent and feels can enjoy the "full game experience"?

Old players prolly forgotten what all they have purchased during many years also.. but if someone comes with a solid answer, i'll appreciate! Thank you! :UDG_Heart:

Also taking other "tips for 2023 noobs" that might save me extra effort..

Oh and does server really matter much? For pve and pvp? A bit confused on the server structure.. we are all on same server on same region? So are the different server names sort of then just more like different instances, or how it is? What server has biggest gigachads and gigagrills? :D I'm on EU region.. wanna see all the most handsome men and cutest girls, did hear they call the game Fashion Wars 2, so.. i think i wanna be on the right place/server since i like the sound of that lol.

Do friends need to be on same server btw to be able to play together or can you travel between them freely like in FF14?

Maybe too many questions at once.. still, hope you all have a great weekend! :UDG_Heart:
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Tirandys Apr 1, 2023 @ 10:04am 
I have only been playing a couple of months. I bought the complete steam version. I have been told that it has all the playable content at this time. If there are new expansions I will have to buy those but I have all content including End of Dragons.
You cannot buy the complete version if you have already bought an expansion so you will need to play the free version until you know what you want, but when they gave the raptor for 10 hours at level 10 I decided on getting an expansion. And as I wanted all the content, (just in case), I got the complete version.
After buying the complete version I had 2 shared inventory slots and 2 level 80 boosts. The level 80 boosts go into 1 of the shared inventory slots and cannot be moved until used. I also had 5 character slots.

Almost forgot, if you are on the steam version you need to buy everything through steam. You cannot buy gem cards or anything else outside of steam and then apply it to your account. I have seen a lot of people have grief about that.
Last edited by Tirandys; Apr 1, 2023 @ 10:06am
Originally posted by Tirandys:
I have only been playing a couple of months. I bought the complete steam version. I have been told that it has all the playable content at this time. If there are new expansions I will have to buy those but I have all content including End of Dragons.
You cannot buy the complete version if you have already bought an expansion so you will need to play the free version until you know what you want, but when they gave the raptor for 10 hours at level 10 I decided on getting an expansion. And as I wanted all the content, (just in case), I got the complete version.
After buying the complete version I had 2 shared inventory slots and 2 level 80 boosts. The level 80 boosts go into 1 of the shared inventory slots and cannot be moved until used. I also had 5 character slots.

Almost forgot, if you are on the steam version you need to buy everything through steam. You cannot buy gem cards or anything else outside of steam and then apply it to your account. I have seen a lot of people have grief about that.

Ooh, thanks a lot! :UDG_Heart:

This is the kind of actual information i hoped to see, that what comes with what so thanks!

Some say FF14 is confusing.. with what to buy, but all it takes is base game + latest expansion (then gets all previous expansions "for free" with it) and the sub obviously.

But here the cash shop got kind of much of all sorts of unlocks and living world thingies.. and account slots and some things still seem a bit confusing. But oh well, even my blonde empty head eventually always learns lol.

But yeah, maybe better to just keep on going for a bit like this and then decide as you said. :)
C4RNIVOR3 Apr 1, 2023 @ 11:23am 
Originally posted by Sofia♡:
Do friends need to be on same server btw to be able to play together or can you travel between them freely like in FF14?
if by server you mean the worlds you chose when you made your first character, no. Those don't matter outside of world vs world, the game runs as a megaserver where everyone on every world plays together, but on different instances of the same maps. The game will try to prioritize different things on these instances, such as grouping you with party/guild/friends or region/language. The only restriction is that NA and EU servers cannot crossplay, but everyone within those servers can play with one another regardless of the world they chose.


As for your other question about the full experience, well that would amount to the cost of the complete collection, which as far as I'm aware costs less than a full year subscription to FF14. We could sit here and list out gem shop QoL but what you consider "minimal amount of "obstacles" on having fun" is subjective to you, and that is up to you to determine. Ultimately the base game is free, and the expansions are pay once and they are yours forever, for whenever you decide you want to get to them.

Also important note, if you don't get the complete edition with Living Worlds in them (these are supplementary story in between expansions, with some new maps (LW4 has two unique mounts), while you will have to purchase them from the gem shop, iirc if you have a paid account you can exchange gold for gems, and potentially not spend money for them at all. I think free accounts have restrictions on currency exchange
Last edited by C4RNIVOR3; Apr 1, 2023 @ 11:27am
Originally posted by C4RNIVOR3:
Originally posted by Sofia♡:
Do friends need to be on same server btw to be able to play together or can you travel between them freely like in FF14?
if by server you mean the worlds you chose when you made your first character, no. Those don't matter outside of world vs world, the game runs as a megaserver where everyone on every world plays together, but on different instances of the same maps. The game will try to prioritize different things on these instances, such as grouping you with party/guild/friends or region/language. The only restriction is that NA and EU servers cannot crossplay, but everyone within those servers can play with one another regardless of the world they chose.


As for your other question about the full experience, well that would amount to the cost of the complete collection, which as far as I'm aware costs less than a full year subscription to FF14. We could sit here and list out gem shop QoL but what you consider "minimal amount of "obstacles" on having fun" is subjective to you, and that is up to you to determine. Ultimately the base game is free, and the expansions are pay once and they are yours forever, for whenever you decide you want to get to them.

Also important note, if you don't get the complete edition with Living Worlds in them (these are supplementary story in between expansions, with some new maps (LW4 has two unique mounts), while you will have to purchase them from the gem shop, iirc if you have a paid account you can exchange gold for gems, and potentially not spend money for them at all. I think free accounts have restrictions on currency exchange

Yeah, meant the different name worlds when chose before could make my first character. Thanks for the info. So it's quite good then how it works. :)

Well yeah, "full experience" is very much subjective. Just was thinking if there are some really strongly said (like MOST old and new would say to buy just to avoid needless back and forth going for something) or if something is really good worth of real world money to pay for. Like sort of seen as so "must have" that people remember with horror what it was before buying that.

Like i'd think some big account shared (i guess all characters can use it then) as big as can inventory slot/bag thingy for sure goes to that? I mean if free inventory space ends up being too small no matter what, most likely?

Well i guess tho in any game always wished that would have endless space on bag lol.

Oh oh.. one thing noticed immediately, when wants to change look of item (oh dear lord my character looks like a poor peasant from the streets), it demands some item/charge for it. Are those only for gems or can earn in game also with just playing? So does changing looks everytime demand cash?

And thanks a lot for your answer! :UDG_Heart:

And yeah, can understand very well the restrictions on free account, on any games with free accounts the bots take all the advantages they can if don't have restrictions. Like on FF14 free trial the trial accounts cannot do trade at all, cannot even open trade window. So very much understandable imo. :)
Nico Apr 1, 2023 @ 11:46am 
Id you want all content then the complete edition for 100€ should be good enough, since it contaisn all currently available content. It is also possible to just buy all 3 expansions and get the Living Story with ingame gold that you convert into gems, but especially early on you probably won't have any gold to spare for that. And since you can no longer buy the complete edition once you bought an expansion which forces you to buy the Living Story with gems ingame it's probably easier to just buy the complete edition and be done with it. Which probably means that it has a higher entry cost than a game like FF14, but thanks to no subscription fee you still will end up spending less money on the long term. And since the base game of GW2 is free2play you can already try out if you even enjoy the basics of the game before commiting so much money into it. even though the free2play version has some slightly annoying restrictions, like less bag slots or a limited time mount (Which I hate, since so players get used to it, I would have preferred it if there was no trial version of mounts)

There is a bunch of QoL features in the gem shop that might also be a bit interesting, but really nothign super important, and it also can be gained by converting gold to gems, so you can get it by just playing. My favorite would be the Copper-Fed Salvage-o-Matic, placed into one of your 2 shared inventory slots ou get together with your expansions, so every character no longer has to worry about carrying enough salvage kits.

For servers, the game used to have actually meaningful servers, but a long time ago all servers in a region got merged into a single megaserver, making it meaningless on which server you are for PvP and PvE. And a short while ago WvW got changed so that now it's not dependent on the servers but the guilds you chose for WvW, making it really meaningless nowadays, obviously besides the server region, which still matters. Which I think is EU and NA.

And regarding Fashion Wars 2, the reason for that is because once you reach llv 80, which is easily doable within a week, the game has nearly no vertical progression left and instead it's mostly horizontal progression, aka you no longer can greatly increase your raw power and instead just can unlock some new QoL features or abilities or mounts or similar stuff, but nearly nothing that can increase your regular dps. That's also why it's not considered p2w, despite the feature to buy gems with money and turn them into gold, since you can't really get more powerful with a lot more money. Especially not in PvP where everyone has the same total stats.

But obviously there is still a lot left to do once you are lvl 80. Many even say that onl ywith lvl 80 the real game starts. There are many difficult and different types of content you can do and there are also many intersting achievements and also some huge potential grinds you can do, for example legendary equipment, which has the very same stats as the much easier to get ascended gear but offers QoL features and unique skins. But in general the motication for the players is not to try to get stronger by getting better gear but more getting stronger by gettin gbetter at controling your character and also to simply do fun activities and trying to unlock some special cosmetics, achievements, QoL features or whatever personal goal you might have set for yourself.
Originally posted by Nico:
Id you want all content then the complete edition for 100€ should be good enough, since it contaisn all currently available content. It is also possible to just buy all 3 expansions and get the Living Story with ingame gold that you convert into gems, but especially early on you probably won't have any gold to spare for that. And since you can no longer buy the complete edition once you bought an expansion which forces you to buy the Living Story with gems ingame it's probably easier to just buy the complete edition and be done with it. Which probably means that it has a higher entry cost than a game like FF14, but thanks to no subscription fee you still will end up spending less money on the long term. And since the base game of GW2 is free2play you can already try out if you even enjoy the basics of the game before commiting so much money into it. even though the free2play version has some slightly annoying restrictions, like less bag slots or a limited time mount (Which I hate, since so players get used to it, I would have preferred it if there was no trial version of mounts)

There is a bunch of QoL features in the gem shop that might also be a bit interesting, but really nothign super important, and it also can be gained by converting gold to gems, so you can get it by just playing. My favorite would be the Copper-Fed Salvage-o-Matic, placed into one of your 2 shared inventory slots ou get together with your expansions, so every character no longer has to worry about carrying enough salvage kits.

For servers, the game used to have actually meaningful servers, but a long time ago all servers in a region got merged into a single megaserver, making it meaningless on which server you are for PvP and PvE. And a short while ago WvW got changed so that now it's not dependent on the servers but the guilds you chose for WvW, making it really meaningless nowadays, obviously besides the server region, which still matters. Which I think is EU and NA.

And regarding Fashion Wars 2, the reason for that is because once you reach llv 80, which is easily doable within a week, the game has nearly no vertical progression left and instead it's mostly horizontal progression, aka you no longer can greatly increase your raw power and instead just can unlock some new QoL features or abilities or mounts or similar stuff, but nearly nothing that can increase your regular dps. That's also why it's not considered p2w, despite the feature to buy gems with money and turn them into gold, since you can't really get more powerful with a lot more money. Especially not in PvP where everyone has the same total stats.

But obviously there is still a lot left to do once you are lvl 80. Many even say that onl ywith lvl 80 the real game starts. There are many difficult and different types of content you can do and there are also many intersting achievements and also some huge potential grinds you can do, for example legendary equipment, which has the very same stats as the much easier to get ascended gear but offers QoL features and unique skins. But in general the motication for the players is not to try to get stronger by getting better gear but more getting stronger by gettin gbetter at controling your character and also to simply do fun activities and trying to unlock some special cosmetics, achievements, QoL features or whatever personal goal you might have set for yourself.

Now this is some legit quality answer right here, biiiig thanks! :UDG_Heart:

Sounds good to me and it's nice that pvp (i wanna try it, alltho gonna suck at it for sure at start haha) has same total stats so no need to then grind gear for a year before can go try it lol

I'm still very much addicted to playing FF14, but it's always nice to try other games between updates, like it's until next year when the big expansion comes (7.0) and every 4 months gets the smaller updates, and right now good time to play something else, and for sure GW2 seems fun game to try. :) Then again, i used to play ESO and was just supposed to "try" FF14, but.. was not going back after saw how different things can be from ESO where server and updates were like always the "this is fine" meme, literally always everything broken and lagging so hard that even lag had lag.

And well, in FF14 i think i probably spend like half of time on collecting glams(skins), mounts and weapons and so on, and on night clubs and the "Limsa RP scene" haha and other half on raids and pvp.. so i think i'll find GW2 rather comfy then. :P

Also, community here seems nice, helpful and welcoming. Feels good. :catinablanket:
Jin- Apr 1, 2023 @ 12:29pm 
Full experience is the complete pack and necessary for the story enjoyers :steamthumbsup:. I think the game compliments FFXIV perfectly. I play this whenever I'm bored in FFXIV. Both have an excellent fashion end game. Sadly haven't found that night club scene in GW2
Last edited by Jin-; Apr 1, 2023 @ 12:31pm
DarkSlayer197 Apr 1, 2023 @ 12:35pm 
Originally posted by Jin-:
Full experience is the complete pack and necessary for the story enjoyers :steamthumbsup:. I think the game compliments FFXIV perfectly. I play this whenever I'm bored in FFXIV. Both have an excellent fashion end game. Sadly haven't found that night club scene in GW2
There is one. Club Canach in Arborstone.
C4RNIVOR3 Apr 1, 2023 @ 1:55pm 
Originally posted by Sofia♡:
Oh oh.. one thing noticed immediately, when wants to change look of item (oh dear lord my character looks like a poor peasant from the streets), it demands some item/charge for it. Are those only for gems or can earn in game also with just playing? So does changing looks everytime demand cash?
Just so no one else misses answering this, yeah it wants transmutation charges for changing armour pieces (which is why generally i would not recommend transmog if you're under 80 because you can level quickly enough you will probably outlevel anything you transmog before you can really enjoy it), but you can earn these in game through things like map completion. I wouldn't really consider buying transmute with cash worth it imo
shimsham29 Apr 3, 2023 @ 7:11am 
As stated, full experience would be buying the complete pack so you have all the content IF you want to have all the living world seasons unlocked right away. If you don't, you can simply convert gold to gems and get all of them or some of them for the cost of your time playing the game. As for things on top of that, the other stuff in the gem store is more QoL or fashion related so you can either choose to pay for gems to get that, convert gold to gems while playing the game, or simply not get it since that stuff isn't required, even if some of it is nice to have. As a subscription game player, you could simply put the same amount in a FF14 monthly subscription into this game to buy gems and spend that how you please.

The thing with GW2 is that it puts a lot of decision making into the player's hands on what to do, to get, or how to go about getting it. I feel (and this isn't directed at you but a general comment) that many new players are not used to this style so they get overwhelmed or confused. There's also a lot of stuff you can unlock in the game by achievements and quests but again, this comes down to the player deciding to do that, not having people push them or force them to do it. The skyscale mount is one example. It's the best mount in the game but you have to put in time to get it rather than having it handed to you simply because you own Living World season 4. It's not difficult to get but does require time to earn it and some complain about that.

GW2 is kind of the antithesis of the real world now where there's an ever increasing push by psychopathic politicians and others to control and run the lives of everyone while GW2 basically tells you to decide to do whatever you want to do in it as it's not going to hold your hand. It also expects you to play the game to unlock things rather than handing them to you. For people that are under the age of 30 and have only known the world for the way it is now, this can seem very odd to them. It's refreshing for those of us born pre 90s and who grew up with more freedom and grew up without the expectation of instant gratification.
Last edited by shimsham29; Apr 3, 2023 @ 7:13am
Originally posted by shimsham29:
The thing with GW2 is that it puts a lot of decision making into the player's hands on what to do, to get, or how to go about getting it.

But to make good decisions, one must be well informed of the details. :) I rather ask from the experienced people (and read all the info that is needed) about facts, since they usually can save time, money and effort so do not make the usual newbie mistakes.

Like in FF14 a lot of new people often makes mistakes with account creation or linking different platform versions that are not compatible and so on. If they had asked before pressing everything without reading or asking, well.. would have saved time and effort of not having to deal with CS or possibly sometimes wasted money with wrong version since not being able to get them refunded.

And thus i asked. Usually (surprisingly) Steam forums always have a few people who know their facts and are helpful to tell them in a straightforward way, without having to go search for fragmented (and sometimes possibly old or legit wrong) information behind several links here and there.

Did get good explanations here and now after couple days of playing, learned the rest in game. The monetization model is actually quite decent in GW2, it does have -some- FOMO triggers with the limited time sale thingies (that i personally am not a fan with lol) on gem store and so on, but far from worst cash stores. So not that bad actually. Seen much much worse haha. And nice that can convert currency to gems. :) I literally have no life so can just grind gold all day if so want haha

No idea what you mean with the psychopathic politicians or hand holding rant tho, maybe you are right and i'm too young to understand lol. :D

But i'll be fine, just wanted to make sure i'll make good decisions with money (to buy the right things that the experienced ones recommend, cannot really go wrong there) since it's not an infinite resource for me right now.
Rhapsody Apr 4, 2023 @ 2:43am 
Just like in real life, the biggest mistake or greatest success you can make in this game is finding the wrong or right type of people. It's extremely difficult to make some kind of fatal error with the game systems themselves... with the exception of not giving it a try at all.

I guess the gem store is built in a way that could actually bankrupt someone with difficulties on controlling their MTX spending. It's a good idea to steer clear of that at all times. You may eventually discover a need for some kind of upgrade, but ideally that need should be realized by playing the game normally, not promoted to you via the discount catalogs.
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HALO_run Apr 4, 2023 @ 3:54am 
the games is mostly based on pve but you can pvp in fixed zones.

you'll need the dlcs for the mounts anyways, plus it unlocks selling\buying things on the players market, that and time.

getting gold is easy most i've ever made in a day was 25 the dlc maps are good for making gold, as long as you're selling all you find that can be sold

so when you jump into pvp you're put in max level.

now the base game you can level up to 80 it's easy till you hit level 80.
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JordyyFPS Apr 5, 2023 @ 11:29am 
I've played the Early Access - BETA and when the game got released back in 2012, I simply have the expansions except for the last one, so in total maybe 40 bucks for 9 years that I've played it and sometimes still jump in for some WvW.

You don't need to spend a single penny if you have the base game, obviously you will miss out on new specializations etc, but at the same time you don't need them to enjoy the game.

I've pretty much got all the gear ascended (same stats as legendary) and got about 7 ascended gear sets, it was a grind, but the grind for legendaries is worse :P

PvE has alot of content, literally alot! Altough after so many years I heavily focused on PvP/WvW since it's really fun to do in this game (level 6000 in WvW) but eventually after 6/7 years it got a bit stale. Then again, for the price aka hours you get enjoyment out of it it's 100% worth it imho.
jd- Apr 5, 2023 @ 10:37pm 
What I did when I first started was, I played the base game first; bought no expansions. Once I played through the base game (which has a TON of content already) I bought the next one, and just did that as time went.

Now not everyone will agree with me there obviously (I bought this way before it was on steam) But I think GW2 does a wonderful job with giving you all content from base game which is a lot, and then at that point if you say "Hmm I want more." Then I would get the expansions.

LW stuff is dope and if you REALLY love story and lore get it.
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