how will be the gw3?

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youtube.com/watch?v=YM5Qy0YsTc0

i think that guy have right.
But he didnt say 1 thing.
At these days , big companies want to spend low bugeds for most of the new games , and after they want take your money... for make their invenstors happy.
If upcoming guild wars 3 is free to play like gw2(like these days as others mmos)... they will want for sure your money for make you pay to win player.
Gw3 must have monthly subscription(or 3 months subscription) to support theior further expansion or not?(you must understand arenanet is part of ncsoft now-isnt free)
What do you believe?

[Hefutoxin]

ArenaNet has been part of NCSoft since BEFORE the first Guild Wars launched.

I believe people lose IQ points when they watch influencer videos.

[ຊคrtนrคēl]

It's hard to say what GW3 will look like, but I'm reasonably certain that there won't be a subscription fee, just like there is none in the first two
It's true that the cosmetic/conveniece shop brings in profit at a bit slower rate than a regular sub fee would, but it has worked pretty well for them thus far (and it's been more than a decade)
I mean, their first and primary goal for GW3 will be to retain as many players from GW2 as possible before they start trying to attract new people, and most GW2 players definitely wouldn't like the idea of a sub
If they're smart, they'll take all the positive sides of GW2 and try to fix or remove as many of the negatives ones as possible = win

[Krome Skulz]

If GW3 has slowed in combat or when damaged mechanic I am not playing it. GW2 has that and I think it is the thing that makes me quit in less than a month every time I return. There is no reason to have this mechanic in an MMO if it isn't a survival game. And in real life people speed up when in danger not slow down so even in a survival game it would make no sense without being CC'd.

To each their own.

[RotherHans]

GW3 is nothing but a moronic reddit rumor.

It will never happen because nobody wants to invest in another failed MMO project,
as EVERYBODY just plays mobile now or fortnite.
Especially in Asia.

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Originally posted by RotherHans:

GW3 is nothing but a moronic reddit rumor.

It will never happen because nobody wants to invest in another failed MMO project,
as EVERYBODY just plays mobile now or fortnite.
Especially in Asia.

Everything new things fail.
Games, movies, sports, cars, toys, songs, wedding, love ....(Its not about mobile...)
People at these days have not deep imagination as before, and is boring .
IF , they want create a game need time and more things .
This game is the best mmo in my opinion right now, but you must play it, at low graphics, because game engine is old and cant hundle big numbers of players.
If they want create a game, etc gw3 with new game engine, need time, you cant to create a succesfull game at 3-4 months, and you exept the players love it.

[Hefutoxin]

Originally posted by Nikolai Bestosterone:

This game is the best mmo in my opinion right now, but you must play it, at low graphics, because game engine is old and cant hundle big numbers of players.

You need a new computer.

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Originally posted by Hefutoxin:

Originally posted by Nikolai Bestosterone:

This game is the best mmo in my opinion right now, but you must play it, at low graphics, because game engine is old and cant hundle big numbers of players.

You need a new computer.

What are you mean? game use only 4 cores... so i need new pc with 20 cores?
and i have a new one

[Hefutoxin]

Originally posted by Nikolai Bestosterone:

Originally posted by Hefutoxin:

You need a new computer.

What are you mean? game use only 4 cores... so i need new pc with 20 cores?
and i have a new one

The graphics on YOUR computer have nothing to do with the server.

[RotherHans]

Originally posted by Nikolai Bestosterone:

This game is the best mmo in my opinion right now, but you must play it, at low graphics, because game engine is old and cant hundle big numbers of players.

You have to limit two gfx settings in your options to med or low.
They're literally called "Character Model ...", then the rest of your settings can stay max.
Except for
Reflections:
turn that off, always.

Tons of guides on youtube for that exact problem.

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The audience that wants GW3 is same audience that craves for fancy graphics because they spent hours in reddit pcmasterrace and watch linus and gamersnexus all the time and believe they need constant 120 fps and 4k res to enjoy games.

It's the audience that demands new games with great mindblowing graphics to put their new 2k GPU to the test, then get bored and move onto next big thing within days or weeks driven by Big e-celebs, twitch streamers and yotubers.

The audience that demands or ask for GW3 is the audience that abandons the game and kills the franchise and even the devs and publishers who were naive and dumb enough to listen to such audience.

Look what happened with Smite, it wasn't a big moba but it was there with tens of thousands of players competing with LoL and Dota 2 and surviving in a genre that killed so many other games and studios.
Then Hi-Rez for whatver reason wanted to create smite 2 which is pretty much same game with better graphics... long story short, smite 2 has a pathetic player count and smite 1 lost so many players since smite 2 announcement.

Most of those youtubers try to emulate asmongold, penguinzo moist critical, mutahar etc how come? being overdramatic, exaggerating situations, no objectivity whatsoever, taking info out of context for views. abusing fallacies etc Ncsoft flagship was Lineage and Lineage 2, those games still exist in South Corea and US, the only relevant product ncsoft has outside Asia is Guild Wars 2 and most recently, throne and liberty. Ncsoft wont kill gw2 or aprove gw3 budget as long as gw2 generates money from US and EU, dont forget theres a special gw2 chinese version aswell.

mmos getting sequels is extremely risky... you know why there's no WoW 2? Everquest 3? Albion 2? ESO 2? lotro 2? lineage 3? etc? it's risky, expensive and whats the point if current product still makes good money? why ruin it to satisfy a minority?

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Originally posted by Berries and Cream:

The audience that wants GW3 is same audience that craves for fancy graphics because they spent hours in reddit pcmasterrace and watch linus and gamersnexus all the time and believe they need constant 120 fps and 4k res to enjoy games.

It's the audience that demands new games with great mindblowing graphics to put their new 2k GPU to the test, then get bored and move onto next big thing within days or weeks driven by Big e-celebs, twitch streamers and yotubers.

The audience that demands or ask for GW3 is the audience that abandons the game and kills the franchise and even the devs and publishers who were naive and dumb enough to listen to such audience.

Look what happened with Smite, it wasn't a big moba but it was there with tens of thousands of players competing with LoL and Dota 2 and surviving in a genre that killed so many other games and studios.
Then Hi-Rez for whatver reason wanted to create smite 2 which is pretty much same game with better graphics... long story short, smite 2 has a pathetic player count and smite 1 lost so many players since smite 2 announcement.

Most of those youtubers try to emulate asmongold, penguinzo moist critical, mutahar etc how come? being overdramatic, exaggerating situations, no objectivity whatsoever, taking info out of context for views. abusing fallacies etc Ncsoft flagship was Lineage and Lineage 2, those games still exist in South Corea and US, the only relevant product ncsoft has outside Asia is Guild Wars 2 and most recently, throne and liberty. Ncsoft wont kill gw2 or aprove gw3 budget as long as gw2 generates money from US and EU, dont forget theres a special gw2 chinese version aswell.

mmos getting sequels is extremely risky... you know why there's no WoW 2? Everquest 3? Albion 2? ESO 2? lotro 2? lineage 3? etc? it's risky, expensive and whats the point if current product still makes good money? why ruin it to satisfy a minority?

battlefield who many versions have ? 1?
call of duty, who many versions have?
lineage 3 is throne and liberty
So yes they can, but they need time and money to make a good game.

[Sa1men]

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[Hefutoxin]

Originally posted by Berries and Cream:

The audience that wants GW3 is same audience that craves for fancy graphics because they spent hours in reddit pcmasterrace and watch linus and gamersnexus all the time and believe they need constant 120 fps and 4k res to enjoy games.

No. I still game on 1080 with 60 fps.

I would like GW3 because I believe GW2 has run it's course. SotO and Janthir are fun to play through, but the game should have ended with the Dragon Saga. The Devs are being pressed up against the wall with regards to adding more to the game. Weapons are almost entirely covered now. More areas cause the population to spread ever thinner.

A fresh restart in a new Tyria and new game mechanics with room to grow is needed.

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Originally posted by Nikolai Bestosterone:

Originally posted by Berries and Cream:

The audience that wants GW3 is same audience that craves for fancy graphics because they spent hours in reddit pcmasterrace and watch linus and gamersnexus all the time and believe they need constant 120 fps and 4k res to enjoy games.

It's the audience that demands new games with great mindblowing graphics to put their new 2k GPU to the test, then get bored and move onto next big thing within days or weeks driven by Big e-celebs, twitch streamers and yotubers.

The audience that demands or ask for GW3 is the audience that abandons the game and kills the franchise and even the devs and publishers who were naive and dumb enough to listen to such audience.

Look what happened with Smite, it wasn't a big moba but it was there with tens of thousands of players competing with LoL and Dota 2 and surviving in a genre that killed so many other games and studios.
Then Hi-Rez for whatver reason wanted to create smite 2 which is pretty much same game with better graphics... long story short, smite 2 has a pathetic player count and smite 1 lost so many players since smite 2 announcement.

Most of those youtubers try to emulate asmongold, penguinzo moist critical, mutahar etc how come? being overdramatic, exaggerating situations, no objectivity whatsoever, taking info out of context for views. abusing fallacies etc Ncsoft flagship was Lineage and Lineage 2, those games still exist in South Corea and US, the only relevant product ncsoft has outside Asia is Guild Wars 2 and most recently, throne and liberty. Ncsoft wont kill gw2 or aprove gw3 budget as long as gw2 generates money from US and EU, dont forget theres a special gw2 chinese version aswell.

mmos getting sequels is extremely risky... you know why there's no WoW 2? Everquest 3? Albion 2? ESO 2? lotro 2? lineage 3? etc? it's risky, expensive and whats the point if current product still makes good money? why ruin it to satisfy a minority?

battlefield who many versions have ? 1?
call of duty, who many versions have?
lineage 3 is throne and liberty
So yes they can, but they need time and money to make a good game.

it's not that simple with mmorpgs or genres like mobas, CoD? Battlefield? FPS? the audience is quite different, pretending that all games and genres can get sequels and be sucessful like cod or battlefield is a false equivalence and oversimplification fallacy, there are many complexities, context and content that needs to be analyzed in order to understand why some get away with it and others dont.

your cod and battlefield example is similar to LoL and Dota 2, i said similar because in the moba genre theres no competition whatsoever, no one can compete with LoL and Dota 2, name another succesful or famous moba, smite was average and had an audience but it was killed by smite 2.

Lineage 3 is throne and liberty? how come?
do we finally get a confrontation with the goddess of destruction in throne and liberty? the game is set in Aden territory? can we visit Giran, Parnassus? garden of genesis?

its lineage 3 the same way Tera online was Lineage 3.

https://www.reddit.com/r/throneandliberty/comments/1cejewp/throne_and_liberty_is_lineage_3/

i know what you mean, this game is pretty much lineage 3 with a different name but its not a real lineage 3, also lineage 2 is quite old already, from WoW era, it was released in 2004, most people playing throne and liberty have no idea about L2, it was before their time, lineage 2 faded away and stopped being relevant for a new audience in the 2010's because it was the most disgusting p2w mmo ever made yet still alive thx to whales and visa warriors worth 10000000 f2p players. TnL makes sense, it feels and plays different yet familiar to L2.

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Originally posted by Hefutoxin:

Originally posted by Berries and Cream:

The audience that wants GW3 is same audience that craves for fancy graphics because they spent hours in reddit pcmasterrace and watch linus and gamersnexus all the time and believe they need constant 120 fps and 4k res to enjoy games.

No. I still game on 1080 with 60 fps.

I would like GW3 because I believe GW2 has run it's course. SotO and Janthir are fun to play through, but the game should have ended with the Dragon Saga. The Devs are being pressed up against the wall with regards to adding more to the game. Weapons are almost entirely covered now. More areas cause the population to spread ever thinner.

A fresh restart in a new Tyria and new game mechanics with room to grow is needed.

aint happening at least not for many years, this kind of project cant remain a secret and needs big moneys $$$$
ncsoft wont release or approve a competitor for throne and liberty at least not for some years. Anet can add new stuff in old maps and co-exist with old content to avoid making more and more new land which makes popiulation spread thinner. Making new mmos is super risky because the genre is no longer relevant, hasnt been relevant for some years already and everyone is playing marvel rivals and such.

imo mmos dont need sequels unless the game is really really old like lineage 2 or wow or everquest 2 and still those games still alive with no 3rd parts whatsoever. i know what you feeling, a new gw game with better graphics, new worlds, new lands new everything... yeah big money, many years to develop etc this gonna take ages.