This is what a Healer looks like..

[Anne.Sullivan]

Being that you only have damage dealers with maybe some wannabe support semi-functions and no meaningful or challenging cooperative mode, I wanted to show you what a healer looks like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4gN3nIknuo

[Anne.Sullivan]

DarkSlayer197 の投稿を引用：

Anne.Sullivan の投稿を引用：

Just because you're main damage you're a damage dealer. Look at my builds and look at the druid.
Just Stop.
If while do damage you heal on the side that is called side healing. The druid may have healing skills and by the extremely low standards of Garbage Waste 2 may be a support, but in reality its a damage dealer, because it's it focus. The healing is basic and simplistic to be considered a healer, and not damage dealer with support abilities.

To anyone unfortunate enough to find the thread, worry not. Support builds exist. Build sites like GuildJen, Metabattle, Snowcrows, & Hardstuck offer great support builds. You can safely ignore OP here as he has clearly proven he has no idea what he is talking about.

In fact, support is highly sought after for group content. Not only that, but may also be more rewarding than DPS because of the fact that giving someone heals and boons allows contributions to kills that person has done. You can clearly see that multiplied in larger groups.

That is what you think and say . If I'm wrong then prove me wrong.
Just Stop.
Side support a healer doesn't make.
Look at my builds look at the druid one.

[DarkSlayer197]

Anne.Sullivan の投稿を引用：

DarkSlayer197 の投稿を引用：

To anyone unfortunate enough to find the thread, worry not. Support builds exist. Build sites like GuildJen, Metabattle, Snowcrows, & Hardstuck offer great support builds. You can safely ignore OP here as he has clearly proven he has no idea what he is talking about.

In fact, support is highly sought after for group content. Not only that, but may also be more rewarding than DPS because of the fact that giving someone heals and boons allows contributions to kills that person has done. You can clearly see that multiplied in larger groups.

That is what you think and say . If I'm wrong then prove me wrong.
Just Stop.
Side support a healer doesn't make.
Look at my builds look at the druid one.

You hate the fact that druid can constantly dish out heals and think it is dumb despite the fact that the moment a druid stops or any other support stops healing, it spells death for the group. DPS isn't going to wait and will take full advantage if you're slow.

So it boils down to pace. You can't keep up and prefer a slower combat style. That's fine, it just means Guild Wars 2 isn't for you. It doesn't mean it is awful or bad, it just simply means it isn't for you.

[Anne.Sullivan]

DarkSlayer197 の投稿を引用：

Anne.Sullivan の投稿を引用：

That is what you think and say . If I'm wrong then prove me wrong.
Just Stop.
Side support a healer doesn't make.
Look at my builds look at the druid one.

You hate the fact that druid can constantly dish out heals and think it is dumb despite the fact that the moment a druid stops or any other support stops healing, it spells death for the group. DPS isn't going to wait and will take full advantage if you're slow.

So it boils down to pace. You can't keep up and prefer a slower combat style. That's fine, it just means Guild Wars 2 isn't for you. It doesn't mean it is awful or bad, it just simply means it isn't for you.

All of their abilities are focused on damage . Both big cool downs are produced from damage and increase damage.
Just stop.
If you look at my builds not only they aren't slow , they also are complex and are focused on healing and increasing the output of healing.
Running around like a headless chicken a fast combat doesn't make.
Chaotic maybe but not fast.

[DarkSlayer197]

Anne.Sullivan の投稿を引用：

DarkSlayer197 の投稿を引用：

You hate the fact that druid can constantly dish out heals and think it is dumb despite the fact that the moment a druid stops or any other support stops healing, it spells death for the group. DPS isn't going to wait and will take full advantage if you're slow.

So it boils down to pace. You can't keep up and prefer a slower combat style. That's fine, it just means Guild Wars 2 isn't for you. It doesn't mean it is awful or bad, it just simply means it isn't for you.

All of their abilities are focused on damage . Both big cool downs are produced from damage and increase damage.
Just stop.
If you look at my builds not only they aren't slow , they also are complex.
Running around like a headless chicken a fast combat doesn't make.
Chaotic maybe but not fast.

Druid staff 3 and 5 do zero damage. Warhorn 5 also does zero damage. Mace 3 does a whopping 4 damage. Frost spirit utility skill, protect me utility skill, and the elite skill glyph of the stars do zero damage. Celestial Avatar skills 1-4 do zero damage. The other skills that can deal damage only do a around 100-200 damage. Compared to enemies that will have over 18K health on average for players (and more so depending the rank of PvE enemies).

Yeah... safe assumption you have no idea what you're talking about.

Edit: there are a lot of utility skills that just do not do any damage that are useful for support. Same with many weapons across multiple classes.

[[RvB] RedArmyGrif]

Anne.Sullivan の投稿を引用：

DarkSlayer197 の投稿を引用：

What is this a wow shaman from Burning Crusade ?

Aaand that's the problem. You're trying to fit GW2 into a box it can't fit in. Waste of Wattage has the Holy Trinity while GW2 doesn't.
I also had to actually look up the classes and Priests, Shamans and Druids all have damage specs. Does that mean they're also DPSers with side healing?

[[RvB] RedArmyGrif]

DarkSlayer197 の投稿を引用：

Anne.Sullivan の投稿を引用：

All of their abilities are focused on damage . Both big cool downs are produced from damage and increase damage.
Just stop.
If you look at my builds not only they aren't slow , they also are complex.
Running around like a headless chicken a fast combat doesn't make.
Chaotic maybe but not fast.

Druid staff 3 and 5 do zero damage. Warhorn 5 also does zero damage. Mace 3 does a whopping 4 damage. Frost spirit utility skill, protect me utility skill, and the elite skill glyph of the stars do zero damage. Celestial Avatar skills 1-4 do zero damage. The other skills that can deal damage only do a around 100-200 damage. Compared to enemies that will have over 18K health on average for players (and more so depending the rank of PvE enemies).

Yeah... safe assumption you have no idea what you're talking about.

Dude admitted he's never touched GW2. He probably heard the name Druid, thought of WoW and went on a tirade.

[DarkSlayer197]

RvB RedArmyGrif の投稿を引用：

DarkSlayer197 の投稿を引用：

Druid staff 3 and 5 do zero damage. Warhorn 5 also does zero damage. Mace 3 does a whopping 4 damage. Frost spirit utility skill, protect me utility skill, and the elite skill glyph of the stars do zero damage. Celestial Avatar skills 1-4 do zero damage. The other skills that can deal damage only do a around 100-200 damage. Compared to enemies that will have over 18K health on average for players (and more so depending the rank of PvE enemies).

Yeah... safe assumption you have no idea what you're talking about.

Dude admitted he's never touched GW2. He probably heard the name Druid, thought of WoW and went on a tirade.

That much is obvious. Anyone who has played GW2 knows druid is all about support. It can be spec'd for DPS but is very niche and isn't as powerful as SoulBeast.

[Anne.Sullivan]

DarkSlayer197 の投稿を引用：

Anne.Sullivan の投稿を引用：

All of their abilities are focused on damage . Both big cool downs are produced from damage and increase damage.
Just stop.
If you look at my builds not only they aren't slow , they also are complex.
Running around like a headless chicken a fast combat doesn't make.
Chaotic maybe but not fast.

Druid staff 3 and 5 do zero damage. Warhorn 5 also does zero damage. Mace 3 does a whopping 4 damage. Frost spirit utility skill, protect me utility skill, and the elite skill glyph of the stars do zero damage. Celestial Avatar skills 1-4 do zero damage. The other skills that can deal damage only do a around 100-200 damage. Compared to enemies that will have over 18K health on average for players (and more so depending the rank of PvE enemies).

Yeah... safe assumption you have no idea what you're talking about.

Edit: there are a lot of utility skills that just do not do any damage that are useful for support. Same with many weapons across multiple classes.

So, what ?

[DarkSlayer197]

Anne.Sullivan の投稿を引用：

DarkSlayer197 の投稿を引用：

Druid staff 3 and 5 do zero damage. Warhorn 5 also does zero damage. Mace 3 does a whopping 4 damage. Frost spirit utility skill, protect me utility skill, and the elite skill glyph of the stars do zero damage. Celestial Avatar skills 1-4 do zero damage. The other skills that can deal damage only do a around 100-200 damage. Compared to enemies that will have over 18K health on average for players (and more so depending the rank of PvE enemies).

Yeah... safe assumption you have no idea what you're talking about.

Edit: there are a lot of utility skills that just do not do any damage that are useful for support. Same with many weapons across multiple classes.

So, what ?

So... a build that mostly uses skills with zero damage isn't a "main damage side healer" build.

The fact I gotta state the obvious....

[Anne.Sullivan]

RvB RedArmyGrif の投稿を引用：

DarkSlayer197 の投稿を引用：

Druid staff 3 and 5 do zero damage. Warhorn 5 also does zero damage. Mace 3 does a whopping 4 damage. Frost spirit utility skill, protect me utility skill, and the elite skill glyph of the stars do zero damage. Celestial Avatar skills 1-4 do zero damage. The other skills that can deal damage only do a around 100-200 damage. Compared to enemies that will have over 18K health on average for players (and more so depending the rank of PvE enemies).

Yeah... safe assumption you have no idea what you're talking about.

Dude admitted he's never touched GW2. He probably heard the name Druid, thought of WoW and went on a tirade.

I have played a druid and even read the wiki, and i can assure you that it's main damage dealer as its heals are basic and majority of its is spent damaging. in fact , all of its benefits come from damage dealing.

[Anne.Sullivan]

DarkSlayer197 の投稿を引用：

Anne.Sullivan の投稿を引用：

So, what ?

So... a build that mostly uses skills with zero damage isn't a "main damage side healer" build.

The fact I gotta state the obvious....

DarkSlayer197 の投稿を引用：

Anne.Sullivan の投稿を引用：

All of their abilities are focused on damage . Both big cool downs are produced from damage and increase damage.
Just stop.
If you look at my builds not only they aren't slow , they also are complex.
Running around like a headless chicken a fast combat doesn't make.
Chaotic maybe but not fast.

Druid staff 3 and 5 do zero damage. Warhorn 5 also does zero damage. Mace 3 does a whopping 4 damage. Frost spirit utility skill, protect me utility skill, and the elite skill glyph of the stars do zero damage. Celestial Avatar skills 1-4 do zero damage. The other skills that can deal damage only do a around 100-200 damage. Compared to enemies that will have over 18K health on average for players (and more so depending the rank of PvE enemies).

Yeah... safe assumption you have no idea what you're talking about.

Edit: there are a lot of utility skills that just do not do any damage that are useful for support. Same with many weapons across multiple classes.

from 2 weapon skills and 1 weapon utility skills, Celestial Avatar that becomes more powerful from damage dealing, and utility skills you make a healer out of.
The role of the healer is to focus on healing not be forced in damage dealing.
Also , utility skills tend to be like that.
And , yes , you don't have a trinity because you're all damage dealers with basic support skills that benefit and are triggered from and by damage dealing.

[DarkSlayer197]

Anne.Sullivan の投稿を引用：

DarkSlayer197 の投稿を引用：

So... a build that mostly uses skills with zero damage isn't a "main damage side healer" build.

The fact I gotta state the obvious....

DarkSlayer197 の投稿を引用：

Druid staff 3 and 5 do zero damage. Warhorn 5 also does zero damage. Mace 3 does a whopping 4 damage. Frost spirit utility skill, protect me utility skill, and the elite skill glyph of the stars do zero damage. Celestial Avatar skills 1-4 do zero damage. The other skills that can deal damage only do a around 100-200 damage. Compared to enemies that will have over 18K health on average for players (and more so depending the rank of PvE enemies).

Yeah... safe assumption you have no idea what you're talking about.

Edit: there are a lot of utility skills that just do not do any damage that are useful for support. Same with many weapons across multiple classes.

from 2 weapon skills and 1 weapon utility skills, Celestial Avatar more quicker available from damage dealing, and utility skills you make a healer.
The role of the healer is to focus on healing not be forced in damage dealing.
Also , utility skills tend to be like that.
And , yes , you don't have a trinity because you're all damage dealers with basic support skills that benefits from damage dealing.

Staff 1 can damage, but since you heal its damage is nearly non existent. So you beam allies with it exclusively. Same with staff skills 2 and 4. Mace 1 is useless for the same reasons. Mace 2 does damage but also heals. Use it for heals. Mace 3 is for CC. Warhorn 4 is useless for damage only for the Warhorn trait to heal and grant regen. Warhorn 5 is useful for CC, blast, and boons. All utility skills equipped essentially do zero damage and are meant for support. All Celestial Avatar skills (the exclusive ability of a druid) do zero damage besides the 5th which again pointless for damage and instead useful for its support if used at all (tends not to be due to requiring you to hold still to fully cast).

So again, most of its skills do no damage which means only 1 thing. It is designed for support.

It doesn't benefit from any damage. It isn't for damage at all. It doesn't do any lifestealing.

[Anne.Sullivan]

DarkSlayer197 の投稿を引用：

Anne.Sullivan の投稿を引用：

from 2 weapon skills and 1 weapon utility skills, Celestial Avatar more quicker available from damage dealing, and utility skills you make a healer.
The role of the healer is to focus on healing not be forced in damage dealing.
Also , utility skills tend to be like that.
And , yes , you don't have a trinity because you're all damage dealers with basic support skills that benefits from damage dealing.

Staff 1 can damage, but since you heal its damage is nearly non existent. So you beam allies with it exclusively. Same with staff skills 2 and 4. Mace 1 is useless for the same reasons. Mace 2 does damage but also heals. Use it for heals. Mace 3 is for CC. Warhorn 4 is useless for damage only for the Warhorn trait to heal and grant regen. Warhorn 5 is useful for CC, blast, and boons. All utility skills equipped essentially do zero damage and are meant for support. All Celestial Avatar skills (the exclusive ability of a druid) do zero damage besides the 5th which again pointless for damage and instead useful for its support if used at all (tends not to be due to requiring you to hold still to fully cast).

So again, most of its skills do no damage which means only 1 thing. It is designed for support.

It doesn't benefit from any damage. It isn't for damage at all. It doesn't do any lifestealing.

They still do damage and benefit from ability that are mean for doing damage. Also , its extreme basic as it's heal spamming.
Utility is Utility.
Just stop.
Look at your rotation and look how majority of it is basic heal spamming at best and worse you're forced to do damage to have better benefits.
Look at my builds and see how it's a little to non is damage dealing or heal spamming.
Its not about how much , but what you do.
By your standards the WoW retribution paladin is a healer.

[pruitcake]

So is OP just upset that there aren't any 100% healing builds and that players are meant/encouraged to deal damage even while performing support roles?

[Anne.Sullivan]

pruitcake の投稿を引用：

So is OP just upset that there aren't any 100% healing builds and that players are meant/encouraged to deal damage even while performing support roles?

Close, look at you.