There is no Guild Wars 3, and the future of Anet are low budget, niche singleplayer games.

[Hardwenzen]

There will be no Guild Wars 3. The card game, and niche singleplayer titles is the future of Anet.
As of late, i am noticing a lot of cope, people are literally telling themselves that GW3 will save GW2 from its miserable state. With what kind of budget, and talent do you expect this to happen? With how they've butchered and messed up the marketing for GW2 for literally 13 years straight, why would NCSoft fund them to create the most difficult to develop genre there is, an mmo?

Stop the cope.

What you're currently playing, is all there is, and will be by 2030. Anet is too tiny of a developer to be making a massive title. The card game that is being released this year is the kind of low effort, low budget titles we can expect from Anet. This game will die within a month (sub 200 players on steam). The game that will be released after, is most certainly a singleplayer game in the GW2 universe, a low budget title that will go completely under the radar of everyone but those who still play the now 13 years old GW2.

Anet's main purpose for the next decade will be supporting P2W Korean mmo's under the NCSoft wing. The days of Anet developing $100M+ games are over.

Please get used to what's on offer, and don't complain when most future expansion patches get delayed.

[Hardwenzen]

Автор сообщения: Werecat101

Автор сообщения: Hardwenzen

There is less than 1% chance that Anet of all things would be able to build a singleplayer title in under 5 years, let alone an mmo with a ton of mechanics, modes and features. Now, if GW3 is some simpleton mobile game aimed at farming the mobile gaming demographic, then MAYBE, maybe you'd be right at those 5 years of dev time.

you really don't understand game development. and make assumptions that an MMO will take forever to make.

depending on the game engine and design tools the dev team makes, map creation is easy the hardest part is story lines and quests creation.

I follow gaming, and understand game development more than you ever will. Anet is tiny. Anet track record is garbage, and NCSoft will never give em 300M to develop a new mmo. NCSoft themselves been getting nothing but L's.

There's a reason why so little dev even bother creating an mmo, its way too much work, and is risky. UE5 or not, you ain't getting it done in under 7 years, and by the time its out, it might be extremely outdated. Stop the cope already.

[Werecat101]

Автор сообщения: Hardwenzen

Автор сообщения: Werecat101

you really don't understand game development. and make assumptions that an MMO will take forever to make.

depending on the game engine and design tools the dev team makes, map creation is easy the hardest part is story lines and quests creation.

I follow gaming, and understand game development more than you ever will. Anet is tiny. Anet track record is garbage, and NCSoft will never give em 300M to develop a new mmo. NCSoft themselves been getting nothing but L's.

There's a reason why so little dev even bother creating an mmo, its way too much work, and is risky. UE5 or not, you ain't getting it done in under 7 years, and by the time its out, it might be extremely outdated. Stop the cope already.

so far several games developers have talked with me about how games are made, and they are currently making a living doing it, how are you so all knowing so far it seems you are great at knowing things but can never prove anything.

you have no clue about how timescales work, you quote BS and get caught out and simply don't reply in threads when you really get caught out. you really have zero knowledge about costs.

as for us coping, well I think I play games I like and support them looking at your entire post history you seem not to enjoy gaming. out of the two of us I cope well.

[Hardwenzen]

Автор сообщения: Werecat101

Автор сообщения: Hardwenzen

I follow gaming, and understand game development more than you ever will. Anet is tiny. Anet track record is garbage, and NCSoft will never give em 300M to develop a new mmo. NCSoft themselves been getting nothing but L's.

There's a reason why so little dev even bother creating an mmo, its way too much work, and is risky. UE5 or not, you ain't getting it done in under 7 years, and by the time its out, it might be extremely outdated. Stop the cope already.

so far several games developers have talked with me about how games are made, and they are currently making a living doing it, how are you so all knowing so far it seems you are great at knowing things but can never prove anything.

you have no clue about how timescales work, you quote BS and get caught out and simply don't reply in threads when you really get caught out. you really have zero knowledge about costs.

as for us coping, well I think I play games I like and support them looking at your entire post history you seem not to enjoy gaming. out of the two of us I cope well.

Why would i care about some indie devs talking to you about how games are developed? We're talking about Anet, a developer incapable of supporting their own 13 years old game. What other devs are able to do is not important. Rockstar is making GTA6, and they've been producing it for 10 years, and that's Rockstar, one of the most talented studio with literal INFINITE BUDGET. You have no idea in what kind of situation Anet is when compared to AA and AAA studios out there. In 2025 Anet is more indie than an AA studio than they once were, so expect indie-like results.

[Hefutoxin]

Автор сообщения: Hardwenzen

Автор сообщения: Hefutoxin

You mean the OG Anet whose only other hit afterward has been State of Decay?

I am sure the Bird game is going to revolutionize the play-as-a-bird genre of gaming when it comes out.

Clear talent.

To me, GW1 and all its expansions was enough. If this was the case about gw2, i wouldn't be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. But the reality is, not a single expansion for gw2 has even expanded the game. Its nothing but fluff, and brainless open world zerging made for 80y olds.

So the reason you don't like it was because it was too difficult?

[Anne.Sullivan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L31PnORleeQ
You make me look like a nice, caring person, and I slightly agree with you. lol

[Werecat101]

Автор сообщения: Hardwenzen

Автор сообщения: Werecat101

so far several games developers have talked with me about how games are made, and they are currently making a living doing it, how are you so all knowing so far it seems you are great at knowing things but can never prove anything.

you have no clue about how timescales work, you quote BS and get caught out and simply don't reply in threads when you really get caught out. you really have zero knowledge about costs.

as for us coping, well I think I play games I like and support them looking at your entire post history you seem not to enjoy gaming. out of the two of us I cope well.

Why would i care about some indie devs talking to you about how games are developed? We're talking about Anet, a developer incapable of supporting their own 13 years old game. What other devs are able to do is not important. Rockstar is making GTA6, and they've been producing it for 10 years, and that's Rockstar, one of the most talented studio with literal INFINITE BUDGET. You have no idea in what kind of situation Anet is when compared to AA and AAA studios out there. In 2025 Anet is more indie than an AA studio than they once were, so expect indie-like results.

your lack of knowledge is amazing games don't get an infinite budget, and each expansion for a game gets a budget for development. The budget is based on expected sales.

Company's work by making enough money to pay all the staff all the time and make a profit.

You are great at naming one of a very few exceptions to the rule.. I was personally amazed you didn't name Star Citizen. The other big exception but the other hundreds if not thousands of games developed in the timescale I mentioned are the rule. I suppose one of the big problems for you is that GTA games were and are primarily console based games and with the rapid changes and console complete redesigns it must be causing havoc in the development of GTA6. and just for fun A 2021 job listing from Sony suggests the development of a new console. We can assume that the PS6 release date will be around 2026. and with the rather major changes between each playstation that will throw most of the code away again.

I really don't understand your hatred driving you to forums that are obviously occupied mainly by people that do like the game and you still spew your own brand of hatred.

As for incapable of supporting I find that a bit of a joke, new expansions and a clear continuation of the same project. and in the Future a successor named Guild wars 3. This is the big long term success for Anet and yes its been paying the bills and keeping the lights on so I don't believe any of the its dying ,dead or no one plays it anymore BS.

[dAMI]

If you go by what the people who left are making ie bird wars than yeah you can't help but think they might go for smaller games than one big one, or be a publisher of browser games like Gameforge. shudder.

[Werecat101]

Guild wars 2 still has enough people willing to buy stuff that enjoy the game the trolls round here are pointless.

[ytisrite]

There is no reason/incentive to make GW3. There are still making decent money off of the gem store and they can fix most of the issues in the current game. Given the fast turnover rate, it's a studio of new, inexperienced and cheap labour that can't be bothered to make a new passion project.

[ytisrite]

Автор сообщения: Werecat101

Автор сообщения: Hardwenzen

Why would i care about some indie devs talking to you about how games are developed? We're talking about Anet, a developer incapable of supporting their own 13 years old game. What other devs are able to do is not important. Rockstar is making GTA6, and they've been producing it for 10 years, and that's Rockstar, one of the most talented studio with literal INFINITE BUDGET. You have no idea in what kind of situation Anet is when compared to AA and AAA studios out there. In 2025 Anet is more indie than an AA studio than they once were, so expect indie-like results.

your lack of knowledge is amazing games don't get an infinite budget, and each expansion for a game gets a budget for development. The budget is based on expected sales.

Company's work by making enough money to pay all the staff all the time and make a profit.

You are great at naming one of a very few exceptions to the rule.. I was personally amazed you didn't name Star Citizen. The other big exception but the other hundreds if not thousands of games developed in the timescale I mentioned are the rule. I suppose one of the big problems for you is that GTA games were and are primarily console based games and with the rapid changes and console complete redesigns it must be causing havoc in the development of GTA6. and just for fun A 2021 job listing from Sony suggests the development of a new console. We can assume that the PS6 release date will be around 2026. and with the rather major changes between each playstation that will throw most of the code away again.

I really don't understand your hatred driving you to forums that are obviously occupied mainly by people that do like the game and you still spew your own brand of hatred.

As for incapable of supporting I find that a bit of a joke, new expansions and a clear continuation of the same project. and in the Future a successor named Guild wars 3. This is the big long term success for Anet and yes its been paying the bills and keeping the lights on so I don't believe any of the its dying ,dead or no one plays it anymore BS.

Why are they still making expansions if they're preoccupied making an entirely new game.

[Werecat101]

Maybe because they don't plan on taking this offline and are making a game that wont open for a few more years. after all GW1 is still online and you can play if you have an account.

[Hardwenzen]

Автор сообщения: Werecat101

Maybe because they don't plan on taking this offline and are making a game that wont open for a few more years. after all GW1 is still online and you can play if you have an account.

They can barely sustain this 13 years old relic, and you think they'll be able to have both titles running, and make content for? In what kind of delusional dimension do you live in?

[Awakened Gamer]

Автор сообщения: Werecat101

Автор сообщения: Hardwenzen

There is less than 1% chance that Anet of all things would be able to build a singleplayer title in under 5 years, let alone an mmo with a ton of mechanics, modes and features. Now, if GW3 is some simpleton mobile game aimed at farming the mobile gaming demographic, then MAYBE, maybe you'd be right at those 5 years of dev time.

you really don't understand game development. and make assumptions that an MMO will take forever to make.

depending on the game engine and design tools the dev team makes, map creation is easy the hardest part is story lines and quests creation.

Silence anet shill.

[Werecat101]

Автор сообщения: Starseed Gamer

Автор сообщения: Werecat101

you really don't understand game development. and make assumptions that an MMO will take forever to make.

depending on the game engine and design tools the dev team makes, map creation is easy the hardest part is story lines and quests creation.

Silence anet shill.

yes its a shame when people talk about things when they really know how it works, it kinda wrecks the trolls lies and bS. Anet going broke no, next game being worked on yeah its about time they need a new engine, GW2 bad no I like it as do many many other people obviously enough that it still makes money even without a subscription.

[ytisrite]

Автор сообщения: Werecat101

Автор сообщения: Starseed Gamer

Silence anet shill.

yes its a shame when people talk about things when they really know how it works, it kinda wrecks the trolls lies and bS. Anet going broke no, next game being worked on yeah its about time they need a new engine, GW2 bad no I like it as do many many other people obviously enough that it still makes money even without a subscription.

Well good thing they're putting the funds back into the game and not into several cancelled projects.