There is no Guild Wars 3, and the future of Anet are low budget, niche singleplayer games.

[Hardwenzen]

There will be no Guild Wars 3. The card game, and niche singleplayer titles is the future of Anet.
As of late, i am noticing a lot of cope, people are literally telling themselves that GW3 will save GW2 from its miserable state. With what kind of budget, and talent do you expect this to happen? With how they've butchered and messed up the marketing for GW2 for literally 13 years straight, why would NCSoft fund them to create the most difficult to develop genre there is, an mmo?

Stop the cope.

What you're currently playing, is all there is, and will be by 2030. Anet is too tiny of a developer to be making a massive title. The card game that is being released this year is the kind of low effort, low budget titles we can expect from Anet. This game will die within a month (sub 200 players on steam). The game that will be released after, is most certainly a singleplayer game in the GW2 universe, a low budget title that will go completely under the radar of everyone but those who still play the now 13 years old GW2.

Anet's main purpose for the next decade will be supporting P2W Korean mmo's under the NCSoft wing. The days of Anet developing $100M+ games are over.

Please get used to what's on offer, and don't complain when most future expansion patches get delayed.

[Werecat101]

Back again with no proof of anything you say.

[Hardwenzen]

Originally posted by Werecat101:

Back again with no proof of anything you say.

Because you have proof of gw3 being made? When you do, then ask me for an actual proof. Secondly, Anet has trouble adding movement to bosses since SOTO, and here you're, coping that they have the budget and talent to develop a brand new, massive mmo that takes 6-10 years to develop. Stop the cope.

[Werecat101]

really so this quote from an article is what rubbish"

It’s been over a decade since ArenaNet’s fantasy MMO Guild Wars 2 launched. In the years since its 2012 PC debut, the team has released several expansions and updates for it, with the latest being 2023’s Secrets of the Obscure. With two more expansions still in the works set to launch this year and in 2025, respectively, Guild Wars 2 players aren’t hurting for new content. That’s why the news that ArenaNet is working on a proper third game in the series came as such a shock.

News of this comes from an NCSoft shareholder meeting (as reported by Korean outlet Inven and translated by Reddit user Sydius), in which the publisher’s co-CEO Park Byung-moo casually name-dropped Guild Wars 3 while discussing the franchise. He confirmed the game is in development, but didn’t offer any other information beyond that. "

It comes across far more fatual than anything you have said

this the link to the article.
https://kotaku.com/guild-wars-3-ncsoft-arenanet-mmo-rpg-announcement-1851372055

[Hardwenzen]

Originally posted by Werecat101:

really so this quote from an article is what rubbish"

It’s been over a decade since ArenaNet’s fantasy MMO Guild Wars 2 launched. In the years since its 2012 PC debut, the team has released several expansions and updates for it, with the latest being 2023’s Secrets of the Obscure. With two more expansions still in the works set to launch this year and in 2025, respectively, Guild Wars 2 players aren’t hurting for new content. That’s why the news that ArenaNet is working on a proper third game in the series came as such a shock.

News of this comes from an NCSoft shareholder meeting (as reported by Korean outlet Inven and translated by Reddit user Sydius), in which the publisher’s co-CEO Park Byung-moo casually name-dropped Guild Wars 3 while discussing the franchise. He confirmed the game is in development, but didn’t offer any other information beyond that. "

It comes across far more fatual than anything you have said

this the link to the article.
https://kotaku.com/guild-wars-3-ncsoft-arenanet-mmo-rpg-announcement-1851372055

Yes, we all know about the name drop, and we also know that the game wasn't even in development when this has happened.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1bq39j0/mega_thread_guild_wars_3_announcement_at_ncsoft/

This is an mmo, the genre that takes the longest to develop, and anet is a non crunch studio, which means that there isn't many devs around that take longer to develop anything, and gw2 is a perfect example of this fact. While the guy name dropping the title means absolutely nothing, even if i were to bite, and say that anet is developing the game, we're between 8 to 10 years from it launching.

[Werecat101]

5 years average game dev period sometimes longer.

and the probable big change is using a game engine that does multi-threading as much as possible and using ray-tracing hardware.

[Hefutoxin]

Originally posted by Hardwenzen:

Originally posted by Werecat101:

really so this quote from an article is what rubbish"

It’s been over a decade since ArenaNet’s fantasy MMO Guild Wars 2 launched. In the years since its 2012 PC debut, the team has released several expansions and updates for it, with the latest being 2023’s Secrets of the Obscure. With two more expansions still in the works set to launch this year and in 2025, respectively, Guild Wars 2 players aren’t hurting for new content. That’s why the news that ArenaNet is working on a proper third game in the series came as such a shock.

News of this comes from an NCSoft shareholder meeting (as reported by Korean outlet Inven and translated by Reddit user Sydius), in which the publisher’s co-CEO Park Byung-moo casually name-dropped Guild Wars 3 while discussing the franchise. He confirmed the game is in development, but didn’t offer any other information beyond that. "

It comes across far more fatual than anything you have said

this the link to the article.
https://kotaku.com/guild-wars-3-ncsoft-arenanet-mmo-rpg-announcement-1851372055

Yes, we all know about the name drop, and we also know that the game wasn't even in development when this has happened.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1bq39j0/mega_thread_guild_wars_3_announcement_at_ncsoft/

This is an mmo, the genre that takes the longest to develop, and anet is a non crunch studio, which means that there isn't many devs around that take longer to develop anything, and gw2 is a perfect example of this fact. While the guy name dropping the title means absolutely nothing, even if i were to bite, and say that anet is developing the game, we're between 8 to 10 years from it launching.

Development on GW2 started in 2007 and launched in 2012. 5 years.

Have you ever been correct on anything?

[Hardwenzen]

Originally posted by Hefutoxin:

Originally posted by Hardwenzen:

Yes, we all know about the name drop, and we also know that the game wasn't even in development when this has happened.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1bq39j0/mega_thread_guild_wars_3_announcement_at_ncsoft/

This is an mmo, the genre that takes the longest to develop, and anet is a non crunch studio, which means that there isn't many devs around that take longer to develop anything, and gw2 is a perfect example of this fact. While the guy name dropping the title means absolutely nothing, even if i were to bite, and say that anet is developing the game, we're between 8 to 10 years from it launching.

Development on GW2 started in 2007 and launched in 2012. 5 years.

Have you ever been correct on anything?

You're comparing the OG Anet, back when they knew what they were doing, and had talent. Did you forget that, or you ignore this fact to not die inside about the current state of the developer? And you're the one asking me if i am ever right, while not thinking what you're typing.

Originally posted by Werecat101:

5 years average game dev period sometimes longer.

and the probable big change is using a game engine that does multi-threading as much as possible and using ray-tracing hardware.

This is the current anet we're talking about, not a massive studio full of talent. If it'd take 5 years for Blizzard (which i doubt would be enough. try 7 years minimum), expect at least 50% slower dev time with anet, and that's being extremely generous. They're not capable of supporting gw2, and this has been the fact for almost 10 years. And here you are, thinking they're capable of building a whole new massive project. Sorry, but that's being delusional. It's the things you tell yourself to feel better about your love toward gw2.

[Werecat101]

Originally posted by Hardwenzen:

Originally posted by Werecat101:

5 years average game dev period sometimes longer.

and the probable big change is using a game engine that does multi-threading as much as possible and using ray-tracing hardware.

This is the current anet we're talking about, not a massive studio full of talent. If it'd take 5 years for Blizzard (which i doubt would be enough. try 7 years minimum), expect at least 50% slower dev time with anet, and that's being extremely generous. They're not capable of supporting gw2, and this has been the fact for almost 10 years. And here you are, thinking they're capable of building a whole new massive project. Sorry, but that's being delusional. It's the things you tell yourself to feel better about your love toward gw2.

I got my estimate from a small development house dev a professional in the business they said 5 years would be the target, it might slip a year or 2 past that but no more (overunning the dev time causes lots of cancelled games) depending on scope creep on the project

[Hefutoxin]

Originally posted by Hardwenzen:

You're comparing the OG Anet, back when they knew what they were doing, and had talent. Did you forget that, or you ignore this fact to not die inside about the current state of the developer? And you're the one asking me if i am ever right, while not thinking what you're typing.

You mean the OG Anet whose only other hit afterward has been State of Decay?

I am sure the Bird game is going to revolutionize the play-as-a-bird genre of gaming when it comes out.

Clear talent.

[Xeph The Tamagotchi]

Originally posted by Hardwenzen:

There will be no Guild Wars 3. The card game, and niche singleplayer titles is the future of Anet.
As of late, i am noticing a lot of cope, people are literally telling themselves that GW3 will save GW2 from its miserable state. With what kind of budget, and talent do you expect this to happen? With how they've butchered and messed up the marketing for GW2 for literally 13 years straight, why would NCSoft fund them to create the most difficult to develop genre there is, an mmo?

Stop the cope.

What you're currently playing, is all there is, and will be by 2030. Anet is too tiny of a developer to be making a massive title. The card game that is being released this year is the kind of low effort, low budget titles we can expect from Anet. This game will die within a month (sub 200 players on steam). The game that will be released after, is most certainly a singleplayer game in the GW2 universe, a low budget title that will go completely under the radar of everyone but those who still play the now 13 years old GW2.

Anet's main purpose for the next decade will be supporting P2W Korean mmo's under the NCSoft wing. The days of Anet developing $100M+ games are over.

Please get used to what's on offer, and don't complain when most future expansion patches get delayed.

another idiot to add to the block list who post doom and gloom without knowing what to look for. have fun!

[Awakened Gamer]

Originally posted by Hardwenzen:

There will be no Guild Wars 3. The card game, and niche singleplayer titles is the future of Anet.
As of late, i am noticing a lot of cope, people are literally telling themselves that GW3 will save GW2 from its miserable state. With what kind of budget, and talent do you expect this to happen? With how they've butchered and messed up the marketing for GW2 for literally 13 years straight, why would NCSoft fund them to create the most difficult to develop genre there is, an mmo?

Stop the cope.

What you're currently playing, is all there is, and will be by 2030. Anet is too tiny of a developer to be making a massive title. The card game that is being released this year is the kind of low effort, low budget titles we can expect from Anet. This game will die within a month (sub 200 players on steam). The game that will be released after, is most certainly a singleplayer game in the GW2 universe, a low budget title that will go completely under the radar of everyone but those who still play the now 13 years old GW2.

Anet's main purpose for the next decade will be supporting P2W Korean mmo's under the NCSoft wing. The days of Anet developing $100M+ games are over.

Please get used to what's on offer, and don't complain when most future expansion patches get delayed.

They are just to greedy and always have been not everyone there of course but many, just look how much they censor and damage control in their forums over the years they try and hide it now, they did hire more clever shills but its still painfully obvious.

[Hardwenzen]

Originally posted by Xeph The Tamagotchi:

Originally posted by Hardwenzen:

There will be no Guild Wars 3. The card game, and niche singleplayer titles is the future of Anet.
As of late, i am noticing a lot of cope, people are literally telling themselves that GW3 will save GW2 from its miserable state. With what kind of budget, and talent do you expect this to happen? With how they've butchered and messed up the marketing for GW2 for literally 13 years straight, why would NCSoft fund them to create the most difficult to develop genre there is, an mmo?

Stop the cope.

What you're currently playing, is all there is, and will be by 2030. Anet is too tiny of a developer to be making a massive title. The card game that is being released this year is the kind of low effort, low budget titles we can expect from Anet. This game will die within a month (sub 200 players on steam). The game that will be released after, is most certainly a singleplayer game in the GW2 universe, a low budget title that will go completely under the radar of everyone but those who still play the now 13 years old GW2.

Anet's main purpose for the next decade will be supporting P2W Korean mmo's under the NCSoft wing. The days of Anet developing $100M+ games are over.

Please get used to what's on offer, and don't complain when most future expansion patches get delayed.

another idiot to add to the block list who post doom and gloom without knowing what to look for. have fun!

Do you feel proud when you block someone? Seriously, i find it extremely weird how everyone must tell others that they've blocked them. Nobody cares who you block. You don't want to hear the reality this game has been in since 2019, and prefer to be in a lucky-go-happy echochamber. Enjoy your madness.

[Hardwenzen]

Originally posted by Hefutoxin:

Originally posted by Hardwenzen:

You're comparing the OG Anet, back when they knew what they were doing, and had talent. Did you forget that, or you ignore this fact to not die inside about the current state of the developer? And you're the one asking me if i am ever right, while not thinking what you're typing.

You mean the OG Anet whose only other hit afterward has been State of Decay?

I am sure the Bird game is going to revolutionize the play-as-a-bird genre of gaming when it comes out.

Clear talent.

To me, GW1 and all its expansions was enough. If this was the case about gw2, i wouldn't be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. But the reality is, not a single expansion for gw2 has even expanded the game. Its nothing but fluff, and brainless open world zerging made for 80y olds.

[Hardwenzen]

Originally posted by Werecat101:

Originally posted by Hardwenzen:

This is the current anet we're talking about, not a massive studio full of talent. If it'd take 5 years for Blizzard (which i doubt would be enough. try 7 years minimum), expect at least 50% slower dev time with anet, and that's being extremely generous. They're not capable of supporting gw2, and this has been the fact for almost 10 years. And here you are, thinking they're capable of building a whole new massive project. Sorry, but that's being delusional. It's the things you tell yourself to feel better about your love toward gw2.

I got my estimate from a small development house dev a professional in the business they said 5 years would be the target, it might slip a year or 2 past that but no more (overunning the dev time causes lots of cancelled games) depending on scope creep on the project

There is less than 1% chance that Anet of all things would be able to build a singleplayer title in under 5 years, let alone an mmo with a ton of mechanics, modes and features. Now, if GW3 is some simpleton mobile game aimed at farming the mobile gaming demographic, then MAYBE, maybe you'd be right at those 5 years of dev time.

[Werecat101]

Originally posted by Hardwenzen:

Originally posted by Werecat101:

I got my estimate from a small development house dev a professional in the business they said 5 years would be the target, it might slip a year or 2 past that but no more (overunning the dev time causes lots of cancelled games) depending on scope creep on the project

There is less than 1% chance that Anet of all things would be able to build a singleplayer title in under 5 years, let alone an mmo with a ton of mechanics, modes and features. Now, if GW3 is some simpleton mobile game aimed at farming the mobile gaming demographic, then MAYBE, maybe you'd be right at those 5 years of dev time.

you really don't understand game development. and make assumptions that an MMO will take forever to make.

depending on the game engine and design tools the dev team makes, map creation is easy the hardest part is story lines and quests creation.