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You can convert gems to gold and there are a few who pay for being carried.
The latter doesn't necessarily follow the former.
use the obsidian sanctum at WvW or PVP-lobby ... bank, TP, merchant ... and if you leave, you are at your old position in the open world
+ It is a terrible thing when you're making a game that needs fresh players from time to time, cause it only increases the gap between the two, and don't tell me no one cares about the things that are sold in the cash shop, while content is left behind and in game additions lack just for the sake of having better cash shop sales, it hurts the game, you see new stuff added to the shop, yet you don't see new content as often? Am i earning cosmetics better looking than the ones at the cash shop by putting effort into different content or am i grinding gold to eternity for as long as i want something for convenience or something new, cool and good looking?
>> Do you even know what you're talking ? Your train of thought is so chaotic. This is an MMO, are you seriously telling me it is a terrible thing for having new players from time to time ? I gave up trying to understand you at this point. If you play the game (which i will get to this part at the end) you know how fast new players can catch up to veterans in term of gears or anything essential because GW2 is heavily a skill-based game.
>> Why on earth does having more cash shop sales, items of convinience, cosmetics hurt the game ? We are not living in a dream land where we get new contents everyday and the company needs fund to create more contents which is the cash shop which is hardly having anything beside cosmetics. Also we are not in the stoneage where one piece of cloth is enough for being "Good Looking" and i failed to see why one shouldn't pay for what they like and preferable to the fashion sense, and you know what ? More than half of good looking armors come from the gameplay not the cash shop.
+ I have no way of getting into details, but i've seen gearing up videos where things weren't as simple and straight forward regardless of your desired equipment and stat distribution and those videos were among the most viewed and recommended ones..
>> Reading this one causing me a headache and sadness of how wrong you are, like i said gears are something you put efforts into even with horizontal progression for this is not a braindead game. I would like to see a few of the videos you've mentioned for myself if possible so i can point out how wrong you are.
+ Thanks to crafting "all players can have a clearer way of obtaining gear and stuff", that is exactly my point, all players should have a clearer way of obtaining gear through whatever content they decide to do, but yeah, while there may be options to do that outside of crafting, it is confusing, convoluted and definitely not "clear" compared to just farming /buying specific materials and at the end you still need to get that crafting done even if you go a different route, cause it will make your life easier and you'll be able to get things that are locked behind crafting.
>> Which part of it you considered not "Clear" ? This leads us back to the beginning where i said "Crafting is mandatory" and what part of being mandatory isn't clear to you ? The crafting in GW2 mostly about making gear and gear can be drops from many other contents while if one doesn't like RNG they can start crafting their gears or through Achievements. The game offers you many way to obtain what you want, if you see this as not being "Clear" i really feel sad for you.
+ Everyone has the power to make their own group, yet lfg is empty in every single tab ( from 0 to 2 groups the last time i checked which was a few hours ago) .
>> Also leads back to what i said about different timezones and i will add one more to be clear here, most content has timer if the event is outside of the timer why would anyone make a group for that ? You only see what in front of you and judge it while failed to understand the reason behind it.
+ Are you really comparing inventory management in real life with an mmorpg? What kind of world do you live in? And your point is that you can go through long periods of time with limited amount of slots if you do your homework and learn this skill? Are you seriously telling players that it's just the way it is and Anet didn't make this system on purpose to force people into getting more slots? IT IS NOT FINE, i'm here to play the game and have fun, not to work as a supermarket stocker, didn't have any problems with this with any other mmo, why is it something i can easily notice in this one? Is the materials tab infinite at least? or at some point you need to worry about having too much of everything in there too? not something that may prevent people from playing the game and enjoying it, but you gotta be joking to deny that it's a bad system ..
>> Yes i am comparing real life and in-game inventory because beside you no one really has issue dealing with their inventory and this is Earth we are living in by the way.
>> Again you are twisting my words, the game gave you many ways to clear and manage your space. I will ask you back what kind of world do you live in where trashs can be turned into profits a problem to you ? You failed to even manage your inventory right while no one are having or making a big deal about this issue. Even in real life manage your personal stuffs is the first skill you learn the earliest the better unless you are a messy one.
+ I had to stop reading when you said currency is related to the amount of content a game has, tell me again how laurels is rewarded and how much content it adds to the game by doing that, LMAO, how much content does having karma as currency really adds to the game? ppl have so much of that crap that i bet they try to find ways to trade it for gold (real money), what did karma add to the game content wise that it couldn't be any of the existing currencies? do people still get specific currencies from each of the 2012 dungeons and how much content does it add to the game nowadays? i bet it's the vast minority that even runs those dungeons nowadays, srsly, just stop trying to justify with nonsense..
>> Once again your inexperience of the game came and bite you, Laurel is the most essential currency in the game where you can only have up to 55 per month which use to get many Ascended item like trinkets, recipes, collection, crafting materials. If you play the game at all you wouldn't said such a thing about Laurel.
>> Karma, the third most important currency (gold being the second ofc) which could be use to buy many armor sets from Orr and with good stats also used in many vendors in the entire for material, recipe, ascended trinkets. The game offers you a way to get karma while playing along side with gold which in any situation where you are low on gold you can use karma as your back up and immediatly get a quick set of gears, karma existed along with gold to create diversity instead of one currency to rule them all which sound pretty braindead game design to me.
>> Dungeon currency changed in the last patch and let me tell you even without this change ppl still run Dungeons for they are quick and easy with variety sets of gear along with runes/sigils but most importantly gold. Dungeon is old school in gw2 which offers albeit minor but fun and more profits to your journey which is a neat touch to the variety of content.
>> This once again show me how negative and inexperience you are to the point you speaking things in nonsense for not having knowledge and make yourself a laughing stock.
+ About PvP, you say the PvP isn't the focus of the game, but the game definitely has good combat mechanics, animations, PvP is responsive and fluid, it's great in my opinion, so there's no reason to not keep it fresh ... but unfortunately it is abandoned .. i'm not trying to pass the idea that the game is terrible, it's a topic about something negative, so i'm talking about that, if you make a thread about "What people like the most about GW2 and what they don't" I'd be honest and give props to some of it's qualities and the same about the negative aspects..
>> Yes it is not a PvP focus game and it is fun and alot of us dedicated to it, so the basic is that it working and fun. If Anet decided to make more then good, if not the fun is still there. Why are you being so negative ?
+ I'll tell you why i didn't give it a serious "go through", i logged in with 5 gold, full berserker's, my bank was full, my bags were full, i had no clue wtf was in it, i started doing research on the content that was added during all the years, spend at least 2 days with the game open and google tabs open, trying to understand wtf happened in the last 10 years, trying to figure out priorities and how to reach my goals so i could start having fun asap, got excited for the mounts, was still on the fence about getting in cause i was feeling overwhelmed and confused, jumped to the new class system and specs, did my homework on my class and decided to go for a specific build, i noticed i needed expansions for mounts and the specs, i had forgotten how to even play my character, and i needed to push through with what i currently had, deleting stuff from my bag or just consuming it just to empty a few slots and loot for a few more minutes, kill things without any rotation or mechanic, just spamming attacks and trying to get content i didn't care about out of the way, the fact that i couldn't skip story missions dialogues and had to walk besides npcs till they're done with talking pissed me off, my goal was a new build, and i had no gear for it, went ahead of myself and purchased the collection pack for 50 dollars, got the raptor and unlocked almost half way through my new class spec, it didn't feel good at all, my damage sucked, my gear wasn't good for what i was trying to do and i still lacked at least half of the class skills, went back to my previous build, cause even if i didn't know how to play it, i could kill everything faster, of course avoiding damage was still an issue, decided to go through the rest of the mounts, at this point i wasn't really enjoying the game, was just looking forward to the fun part but it was far from my reach, i still had no clue what was doing, decided to join a train for something i don't even know about, at some point i was following ppl with a low mastery level raptor and everyone else was just flying through objectives and bosses, over water, and the only open world boss i killed with them i was like "dude, wtf am i doing here, what do i get from doing this? it doesn't feel rewarding or fun at all", last thing i did was out of curiosity check the trading house, and there it was, everything i needed to at least start having fun and enjoying the process of learning, locked behind hundreds of gold, and then i said to myself "50 dollars and i still don't have access to all content, my bags suck, my bank suck, im not enjoying my character the way it is, i don't really feel connected to all these players and there's so much to cover and read about, i'm not gonna graduate on gw2 google research before i can jump into the game and start having fun" so i quit ...
>> Reading this make me feel extremely sad and i feel you but i can't help but wonder are you really put efforts into this and think through in a calm manner instead of rushing ? I'm not trying to offense you but this sound heavily like learning issue. The simplest solution is asking for help instead of drowning on your own which is exactly what you sound like. Many had this issue before including myself but while others make it through in a calm manner, seeking help, seeking guidance from veterans instead you blame your personal lack of experience, frustration about the game which turns into such negative aspect of your thought and forcing your experiences on to others.
>> Your goal is new build but when encouter the hardship you lash out instead of seeking help. This is a big game and you are not the all knowing so stop trying to take in 10 years worth of change to yourself and play the game as it is, stop trying to figure out everything by yourself, give it time. If by chance some new players reading through until this point i hope they see how wrong and negative you are and avoid making the same mistake by simply asking for help.
same vice versa ... It really says something when the people claiming the game is pay to win, "need" to write literal essays to try and prove a point. This is called cognitive dissonance. No amount of word salad will prove you are right.
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Game is not pay to win, stop spreading FUD.
I am really trying to understand what are the pay to win aspects you are trying to refer to here. The Elder Scrolls online may have some "pay2win" like when you get a montly subscription so you get unlimited material bag that doesn't affect any other bag you have and the weight you carry.
No matter how many unlimited harvesting tools you get you will always have to manage your inventory. And i dont really see how you "win" anything with unlimited harvesting tools. You get the exact same thing like you get with normal tools, the only difference you dont have to replace them.
If you gonna go the other way and say that you can buy gold with gems and then buy that one legendary item - you just cost yourself hours of gameplay and satisfaction when you get the legendary item in the end because you won't have a feeling like you "earned" it. There is nothing more satisfying than linking all the items just before you craft it in the public chat and everyone will cheer for you. This is the way you win, not by spending money to buy gems to buy gold to buy your easy way to legendary weapon.
Just because it doesn't fit in crafting or gearing doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The fact is that you can't reach some places without a mount (panorama in the center of Löwenstein, alternative is to wait until the Halloween event), you can complete daylies more difficult (event maps) and don't get a number of rewards because you're simply too slow. While others run bosses, bandit chest runs, or whatever, you only run after them in vain, even if in another discussion a player seriously claimed that players are faster than mounts. If you don't want to call this P2W, then call it P2 getting rewards. GW2 doesn't actually have to be P2W, but it's not devoid of it. (translated)
Yes of course and in which game? Certainly not in GW2, especially not for F2P players, but that's something people tend to forget! How can it be that YouTube guides sometimes talk about, at best, 5 gold a day? Even that you can only reach if you use the market because the prices there are significantly better, you don't earn anything from NPC dealers. If gold farming was that easy then GW2 would have the same problem as some other games, inflation. (translated)
You can only do that with Guide at this time, so please write that down instead of spreading nonsense here. Without a guide, you will very quickly run out of materials and, in the worst case, the recipes that bring experience. It happened to me that I suddenly only had recipes that didn't work. The only thing I could do to even get to the next level was to research recipes myself. In such a hole you quickly end up with the professions. (translated)
Mystic Forge Stones are 250 gems for 5 of them.
Revive orb is 250 gems for One.
Oh want different hairstyle and colors than when you created character: 250gems
Unbreakable Gathering Tools so you don't have to waste inventory slots carrying multiple in bags: 2400 gems
Upgrade Extractor to remove items from gear so they don't get destroyed 3 for 250gems
The Copper Savage Matic Tool: 800 gems
Bank Tab Expansion: 600 gems
Bag Slot: 400gems
Legendary Weapon Sword: Bolt: 1998 gold
or you can spend 253 gems for 50g which 800 gems is 10$. (This can change, lowest I have seen is 214 gems for 50g)
116g to buy 400 gems
Don't forget some of these vets and older players have upwards to 80,000 Gold
Oh and for a while the quickest way to get gold was having multiple accounts and log in daily grab the rewards and continue to do so.
Or maybe you get lucky in the Gambling Boxes and get something worth thousands of gold to sell on Trading Post.
Oh want to have equipment and build templates for all 4 specs for your class, well you only get 2 so buy more in Store with Gems, and this isn't account based neither is the bag slots.
Oh shared inventory slots so you can share various items like copper salvage kit - 700 gems for one maybe 540 on sale.
Not entirely P2W here but, game loves to FOMO new players by rewarding vets each year with birthday gifts and account gifts. (Exclusive Dyes, Food item, Outfits, Dragon Decade Weapon Packs) if any of these are able to be sold they give the vets even more money.
You don't need any of the rest you mentioned either. Arguably, the most beneficial are the ones that gives you more space, but that's it. Even those are not NEEDED, unless you are completely inept at managing your inventory.
Sure, you can buy Legendary weapons with converted gold. Bolt currently sets you back $121. That's a one-handed weapon, you need something in the off-hand slot, too. Also, there is weapon swap which is another weapon or two. Are you counting?
All this for an extra 5-10% stats which is just about useless in the hands of any player without some actual skills. You are better off with Exotic gear and some experience.
80000 gold? If you have a 1000 gold in your wallet, you are in the upper 10%. 10,000? Upper 0.5%. Where do you get the 80,000?
Most players won't change builds. Like, at all. The three build template slots are more than enough for most. Equipment template is 2 per character, also more than enough.
Everything you get in the birthday presents is account bound. You can't sell them. I'm not sure what your point with that is, anyway. You get them because you've been playing long enough. Nothing in them gives you advantage over newer players.
No, it saves only the position, not map-id/server
for such cases, if there is a command tag on the map, join the squad just to have a backup to rejooin the map-id (right click on another squad member "join map XYZ" - but risk that map is full)
if you are alone you can be lucky or unlucky, then better wait with the way to the bank/tp until after the event
https://hardstuck.gg/gw2/guides/general/gemstore-overview/
Guild Wars 2 has horizontal progression. Once you get to Ascended level equipment, you cannot stronger.
Now, whilst ascended equipment is account bound and, as such, non-tradable, legendary equipment - which has the same stats but fancy visuals - can be bought (at least the Gen 1 and Gen 3 Weapons)
So yes, you can load into the game, use your level 80 boost (dont do that, honestly, level a character yourself, the game is much better that way) and then spend a couple of hundred dollars buying gems then gold and legendary weapons, but does it do much?
Ascended stats are fractionally better than exotic stats, and whilst, for the endgame they are nice to have, a full legendary loadout will not help you in any way shape or form if you dont know how to play your class.
If you do know how to play your class, however, you can do most content without having to even get Exotic gear.
So, no, if this game is Pay 2 Win, I im the Pygmy Queen.
And then the recipes like Mystic Salvage Kit, where you can use a valuable item as part of a scrap recipe (45x Chattering Skull). Unfortunately, there are many recipes out there and I didn't even think about them. That's just money (regardless of whether it's ingame or real) and burning material. As i said before, the same mechanics and insidious at that, as in other MMOs. Arena could also say right away, "Hey guys, spend $1000 to make this awesome Legendary One Hit Boss Kill Item, which requires you to farm for an additional 1 year, and then scrap it so you can get this awesome piece of copper and this dandelion flower. "
These are also reasons why I don't buy anything in MMO and Arena, such recipes are just disgusting. (translated)
You can also call it P2 being ripped off. If you look at the mechanics. (translated)
touché lol
The only reason why some of us started arguing and writing "essasys" was precisely coz other people coming here with essays spreading lies, disinformation and exaggerating the flaws gw2 has.
P2W elements? yes you could say that, it doesn't mean the game is enterily P2W and not P2W in the sense of getting stuff no one else can achieve so you can go around like superman killing everyone and destroying anything while filling your pockets with precious loot. That's not GW2 and anyone who says the contrary either is trolling or has never played the game, simple as that.
What's your point? what's the reason for showing the price of unrelated random items? what's all this out of context nonsense? Are you trying to show us that GW2 is p2w because "Bolt" is worth 1998 gold? a cosmetic/prestige item? give me a break.
Hmm additional crafting space???? you mean the additional crafting license? and what does the crafting license have to do with icebrood saga anyways? you making no sense.
From GW2 Wiki: "This license allows players to have an extra active crafting profession on all characters on their account up to a maximum of four in total"
By default one character can learn two different crafting professions, the license adds one more to all the characters in your account, for 800 gems (235 gold at current exchange EZPZ) it can be cheaper if you wait for one of the many special sales.
But guess what? you don't need such thing, in 7 years i never had the need or desire to get a damn additional license and i've crafted god knows how many armors, weapons and more. It's a convenience item for some specific group of players who want more than just two crafting professions in one toon.
- Going to Bjora Marches without a mount? that's absurd...
Farming gold to buy icebrood saga episodes without a mount? as "Ryland" said "Get your priorities in order" because this doesn't make any sense...
You must have a mount by the time you reach Bjora Marches, it's a lvl 80 map from Icebrood saga, which precedes 1st expansion, 2nd expansion (that's where you get your first mounts) Living world season 4 etc.
Icebrood saga maps are accessible to players who own Path of Fire expansion, if you have Path of fire you definitely have a mount else what the hec are you doing? staring at the wall?
Someone without even the very 1st mount (the raptor) has no business in Bjora, period.
-Mystic Forge Stones you get those for free with the achievement chests and dailies iirc. Only someone playing with the mystic toilet and doing legendary crafting will use these. Newbies are adviced to save the stones and get Mystic salvage kits.
-Revive orbs is something only for fractal junkies, most of the casual pve, wvw, pvp players don't care about revive orbs and certainly they won't spend 250 gems for one.
-Oh want different hairstyle and colors than when you created character: 250gems He's talking about the Self-Style Hair Kit, a cosmetic item and this is getting absurd, might as well start calling every online game P2W and not only the mmorpg's...
-Unbreakable Gathering Tools so you don't have to waste inventory slots carrying multiple in bags: 2400 gems
Convenience/QoL item, it's debatable but i kinda agree that this saves time and release you from a mild inconvenience. I didn't get my permanent gathering tools all at once, i bought one at a time and felt great coz i achieved something. I wasn't whining nonstop coz "ohhhOHH not fair i wants my permanent tools NAOOOW THIS IS P2W to hell with Arena net"
i wonder if the people complaing ever played any other online game, they wan't all for free.. The top gear, weapons, cosmetics, materials, etc they wouldn't even try to get the stuff available through quests and achievements coz...
OHHH NOOO stpid quest takes too long, it's too difficult, time gated sht, grinding, farming, collections, gathering HELL NO i want my stuff NOW!!
Seriously... freaking clowns.
-Upgrade Extractor...
I'ts a tool to remove "infusions" and other upgrade components from gear. This not something you are going to use every day, hec most people won't use this unless they want to extract the queen bee infusion or liquid aurilium and that's like wining the lottery.
The only time i used the extractor (which btw i got for free) was to remove the Super adventure box infusion from my bow.. That was 3 years ago.
It would be dumb to waste the extractor to retrieve a 10 gold sigil and most people use cheaper sigils and runes.
-The Copper Savage Matic Tool.
Another QoL/Convenience item, well worth the price, just like gathering tools.
-Bank Tab Expansion & Bag Slot
A necessity in the long term, wait what? nooo, don't tell me you expected as f2p or newbie to have a zillion inventory slots and unlimited bank capacity? This game isn't for you neither any other MMOrpg, go back to single player games where you can use the console commands and mods to add infinite ammo, all weapons, unlimited storage space, god mode etc. BTW you can always use another toon as temporary bank, a "mule".
The space you get when you start the game is enough, sell the trash, materials go directly to the materials bank not your personal bank. Salvage the gear that you don't need etc Reminds me of this fella who complained bout not having enough bags and he was hoarding trash with zero value.
And a long long ETC... this is literally an attempt to make the game look terrible for newbies. Funny how these people ignore that you get some of that stuff and more for free with acheivement chests, with gemstore gifts, the special sales and specially how easy is to get most of that by just trading gold which is easily adquired.
Most important thing... those are only Cosmetics, QoL/Convenience items. NOT power items, it won't make you better, bigger, faster and stronger than the rest, it won't affect other players, they are not competing with you and viceversa, this is not a contest bout who can gather more materials or hold more trash in inventory bags... but if you want to believe so then yeah, you gonna be better at hoarding stuff lol
????
Tequalt alone gives ya 2 gold plus loot, it takes 12 minutes to finish. Do a world boss tour (fire elemental, jungle wurm, tequalt, karka queen, etc) You'll get more than 5 gold i can assure you that even as f2p.
Ley line anomaly is easy as tequalt or even more and you get a mystic coin ($$$)
Each map has different bonus rewards, go find some with valuable items or even junk items worth good money at npc vendors like the shiny baubles. ETC
Gold farming is easy, period, either you are not efficient at it or you just don't know how to.