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So yeah, don't worry, you can't buy the expansions twice, even if you would want to. But I do agree on that it's quite weird that they made a static bundle instead of a variabl eone, but I guess they wanted to avoid the pain of having to take care of of players who first buy some chapters or seasons with gems and then want to buy the rest with the Steam purchase or something similar. Like this it only really can happen for season 2.
that is exactly my point.. why prevent people from giving them money?
Yeah i already found out that this is possible.
is anet so desperate for funding that they F over potential new customers to the point (in my case) of already trying to refund?
My Issue isnt the pricing (even considering they expect you to pay a premium for 10 year old content), it is about "comfort" and a welcoming attitude to new players into their "ecosystem/game" and on a regular basis you only get the middlefinger from anet in either game design/story telling/storefront
tbh... the way anet handle things here on steam makes this the first purchase on steam i really regret
enough venting now... and i hope an anet employee sees this and takes my criticism to heart.
They most likely won't. The Steam forums are not the major stomping ground of Anet, it's the GW2 official forums they pay more attention to and tend to respond more frequently on or you have to contact customer service directly.
ah, the good old... take the money and head in the sand tactic xD
Well, it's actually more like the Steam platform is only a secondary thing for them. The company has never, up until now, gone about any other way of putting the game on other platforms, so they probably do not have as big of a team managing Steam stuff as they do their own client. Which kind of makes sense, because Steam, from a business perspective, to Anet, is basically another party. However, I have never had problems with their customer service when I've had to contact them with an issue.
I mean, its literally on the storepage, isnt it? You can either buy the expansions, or the "complete edition" with expansions + living world. At no point do you see a "living world only" DLC pack. It even mentions that they will need to be bought separately a bit further down on the storepage.
Is the situation as it is now "unfavorable"? Maybe. But its far from the "middle finger / player-unfriendly attitude" you try to imply here. If i am honest, it looks more like a "i just bought it without so much as checking, and now i blame the company for the consequences of my lack of interest" situation on your part.
GW2 does not have that. It has an upfront cost that one can argue is a bit higher than most other games, but no, not even that, really. And then you can play the game for as long as you want with as many breaks as you want without losing any progress.
I spent about £250 on the whole game in ten years. I couldn't play many other MMOs for much more than a year for that much when you combine their upfront cost and sub fee.
For new players, the complete package costs £86 ($100). I think that's more than fair, considering that's all you HAVE TO pay in order to play all the content that there is and without any time limit.
Why is the lack of subscription never considered with GW2? It makes for a huge difference in dollars-per-hours-played, or whatever metric you want to measure its value in.
Also, only the base game is 10 years old and that's the part that's free. What you pay for are the combined releases of the past 8 years, the last Expansion being barely older than 6 months.
There, fixed it for you.
As a comparison, you would have to spend more than 350€ for ESO DLCs.
that is exactly my point!
why would you buy everything at once as a new player, you dont know how exactly the game feels and the unnecessary complicated/obfuscated bundling system with proper expansions and mini expansions (aka living world) inbetween them doesnt make sense if you didnt participate in the game for a longer time already
the pricing (or even paying) is not the issue here... the issue is that you buy the first (two) expansion and then discover that the part between the base game and the first expansion has been cut out and they expect you to pay for it
akin to buying the lord of the rings trilogy and while you read it... you discover that the bookstore ripped out the first 100 pages of the 2nd and 3rd book and wants to be paid extra for that
I understand that it might be a negative experience for a customer, but the only type of customer that will come across this problem, are the ones that didn't actually check what they are buying.
Far from a good comparison, because the living story being purchaseable separately is not a secret, nor is it an unusual occurrence.
If you really want to make a comparison with the trilogy, it would be more like buying the 1st and 3rd part even though, by spending a hot minute on the internet, you would realize there's also the 2nd part that you'll have to read in order to connect the 1st and the 3rd book.
Here's the text found on the Steam page:
"Expansions and Living World seasons feature unique rewards and new Masteries to expand your character's abilities. Unlock and upgrade your glider in Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns, befriend a stable of mounts with powerful movement skills in Guild Wars 2: Path of Fire, and learn to fish and pilot a skiff in Guild Wars 2: End of Dragons. Each expansion grants access to nine elite specializations that unlock new weapon choices, skills, and abilities for your profession. You'll also be able to select the revenant profession at character creation and channel legendary heroes and villains from Tyria's history.
Living World seasons continue the Guild Wars 2 story between expansions and must be purchased separately through your Story Journal or in Gem Store bundles. Play Living World episodes to unlock new explorable zones, rewards, and Masteries.
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If you also look at the packs they are offering on steam, you will see that the living story is literally bundled in the Guild Wars 2 - Complete Collection.
your ocmparison is moot as well... i dont watch an entire lets play of the whole game in order to decide what content to buy, thus i dont know what exactly i will get with this content pack. it is the job of the dev/publisher to create a package for the player to enjoy
i have not played this game for years... and i did research what to get and what i would need.. but there are so many outdated and conflicting ressources around that it makes it hard to actually know what you need and get.
anet decided to annoy the customer by doing this (as with you cannot get the bundle with living world when you bought a single expansion pack)
which is not really the standard on steam
You clearly bought all of the expansions right away.
All of the details for the living story are, as a matter of fact, written on the steam website.
I updated my previous post, quoting that text as well -
you can find it at the end of it.
The devs/publisher also created a package for the player to enjoy - the complete pack.
It's there, you just didn't want to spend those extra 40€ on it, because you didn't spend 1 additional minute to read what the living story is.
Again, you bought it on steam and on the steam website you have ALL the information needed to figure out what you would have to buy. You didn't do that and now you're blaming the company for your own mistake?
That's why I used the trilogy as an example -
because you have all the info of what you need, to get a full story experience in front of you but you apparently didn't see it for one reason or another and are now stuck with portion of it missing.
Nah, they didn't decide to annoy the customers. Some customers though, might have gotten annoyed due to their own mistake.
Edit: I do agree with you on one thing and one thing only - there could probably add more options to buy the game, even though, it's far from an issue as it is, since you can buy the whole LS t separately season by season in-game.
It also doesn't really make much sense to buy 1 expac and the whole living story with it, since some would be still locked away from you, since you wouldn't own the remaining expacs.