Worst mmorpg

[neuronfly]

Compared to WoW, FFXIV and ESO, gw2 is the worst mmorpg because of the following reasons:

1)Bad and boring story
2)No quests or no epic long questlines
3)No gear progresson (players are wearing the same gear from 2012)
4)Need to buy all patches and all expansions separately (in WoW, FFXIV and ESO we only need to buy the latest expansion and patches come free with the expansion)
5)No AUTOMATED dungeon finder and raid finder
6)No meaningful character progression
7)No real endgame
8)Dungeons are abandoned (no new dungeons in the expansions)
9)No mounts for base game owners

EDIT 1: To all the people saying that I have not played GW2 and defending this game like a fanboy, I purchased this game when it was released way back in 2012. Yes I am NOT a free player. I purchased the physical copy of the game and I have 3 characters at max level. But my point still stands. GW2 is the worst MMO when you compare it with ESO, FFXIV and WoW.

EDIT 2:To all the players saying that GW2 is the best because there is no gear progression, well here's a newsflash: ESO also has horizontal progression. But that game did it so better than GW2 that it has become my favorite MMO right now. In every patch ESO gets new gear sets and monster sets that radically change the playstyle of all the classes. For example: I recently got a monster set (2 set piece) called "Maw of the infernal" that has 33% chance (when I attack) to summon a huge fire breathing daegoth to attack my foes. Another monster set I got last week from doing veteran dungeons is "Ilambris" that has 33% chance to summon a meteor shower when I deal flame damage to foes. How cool is that. But GW2 has none of that. ESO's horizontal progression is 100000 times better than GW2.


EDIT 3:To all the people saying I should go play FFXIV or WoW: Right now I'm playing ESO. It has the best horizontal progression system in the entire mmo industry. Everything is better in ESO compared to GW2.

1)Story is better
2)Gear system is better (the monster sets are awesome)
3)Questing system is better. The quests in ESO have deep story behind them. Not like GW2 where you have to complete stupid hearts with no backstory behind them.
4)Satisfaction is better. When I complete a veteran dungeon in ESO I feel satisfied after getting a powerful set. But in GW2 whenever I complete a fractal I feel nothing. No satisfaction... just hallow.
5)Zones are better
6)Graphics are better
7)Music is better
8)Content update release schedule is better
9)Endgame content and progression is better. In ESO after you reach level 50 a whole new progression system opens up called the Champion System where you can further increase your character power and gain over 3000 levels.
10)Character build diversity is better. In ESO you can customise your build diversity in a lot of ways but in GW2 build diversity is non existent.

In short: Everything is better in ESO compared to GW2.

[Bryo]

eh ESO is pretty mediocre in terms of combat tbh. Boring to play. Would rather zerg events in gw2.

[Dr. Sinister]

Messaggio originale di Angoril:

Messaggio originale di Dr. Sinister:

ESO is a great game but it's meant for those who don't like hard games.

As opposed to GW2 that is well known among MMORPG gamers about its brutal difficulty that only few can stomach. Oh wait...

Messaggio originale di Dr. Sinister:

It rewards you for participating even if you did nothing.

Again... GW2 is the same. It requires from no to barely any participation to get rewarded, which is why people AFKing in events is a common thing. But you don't even need to put that much effort since you can bot whenever you want... ehmm... AFK farm I wanted to say. We don't call it botting here, that would sound bad if we would say ArenaNet allows botting in the open world. But it's a handy feature that allows you to do things all gamers do while playing a game... like doing the laundry, cooking, watching a movie, taking a shower etc.

GW2 is such a difficult game... I wish ArenaNet would tone it down a bit! /s

I can light attack my way to level 50 in ESO while wearing rags. Good luck auto attacking your way to 80 in GW. GW actually encourages team play as opposed to ESO's single player approach

[CyberDown]

i really dont understand the confusion. you play ESO for the ES style stories and game world.

You play GW2 for an almost arcade MMORPG game experience that is low key and lacking progressions to fall behind.

You want your casual mmorpg to be all about gameplay or story? Story go ESO, gameplay go GW2. Both are decent but for very different reasons.

[Angoril]

Messaggio originale di Dr. Sinister:

I can light attack my way to level 50 in ESO while wearing rags. Good luck auto attacking your way to 80 in GW. GW actually encourages team play as opposed to ESO's single player approach

What's preventing anyone from auto attacking their way to 80? Ignoring minionmancers and rangers for obvious reasons, all classes have access to ranged weapons which makes auto attacking to 80 more than possible without having many issues. Allows you to create a super defensive build as well since you don't have much else to worry about. It'll just be boring... super boring.

GW2 doesn't encourage or require team play at any point during leveling. It's easy enough for anyone to do it solo. And then HoT happens and everyone realizes how much they actually don't know how to play the game and/or their class.

[Felix Von Leon]

I thought this was a super duper troll post aimed at getting people annoyed, and for the reaction......

"To all the people saying I should go play FFXIV or WoW: Right now I'm playing ESO. It has the best horizontal progression system in the entire mmo industry. Everything is better in ESO compared to GW2.

1)Story is better
2)Gear system is better (the monster sets are awesome)
3)Questing system is better. The quests in ESO have deep story behind them. Not like GW2 where you have to complete stupid hearts with no backstory behind them.
4)Satisfaction is better. When I complete a veteran dungeon in ESO I feel satisfied after getting a powerful set. But in GW2 whenever I complete a fractal I feel nothing. No satisfaction... just hallow.
5)Zones are better
6)Graphics are better
7)Music is better
8)Content update release schedule is better
9)Endgame content and progression is better. In ESO after you reach level 50 a whole new progression system opens up called the Champion System where you can further increase your character power and gain over 3000 levels.
10)Character build diversity is better. In ESO you can customise your build diversity in a lot of ways but in GW2 build diversity is non existent."



1] I played ESO when it first released and it was god awful, i then returned around Morrowind, the story is ok, nothing overly exciting, id say both GW2 / ESO are about the same.
2] ESO gear becomes far more of a grind fest / or money sink when you get ot the higher levels, if you are casual, youll forever be left with crappy basic gear.
3} Quests......theres a variety in ESO that are your typical "fetch" or generic simple ones, like follow that dog, etc. I do prefer GW2 heart system thans more "Do these things in this area"
4}Did you do the tier 1-1 fractals? Expecting to get some legendary weapon as a reward? When you do a dungeon in ESO you get some goodies that are mostly scrap and useless
5}Zones.......depends which zones you are talking about? Shadowfen with its cliffs, silly water depths [that go from ankle to knee depth so you dismount all the time, Alik'r Desert because......well most dont like it lol. Buuuut Both games have good and bad zones/areas.....i like the HoT areas and didnt like many of the core tyria zones.
6} Graphics are better? Different art styles, if you play both on high settings youll see both look great, fantastic......but that can be said for mmos like WoW, STO, SWTOR, too
7}I have to disagree with you, i think both have fantastic music/ soundtracks, and are up there with the best, infact id say most other mmos afterwards realised players do appreciate decent quality music/ soundtracks
8}

[steelwork]

Messaggio originale di neuronfly:

Messaggio originale di Savathun's Onlyfans/LoliNoxTan:

Btw your 2nd edit about the 33% chance effects. GW2 does have that... they're called Runes and you slot them into your gear

Does the runes in GW2 summon a meteor shower from the sky, split the ground to summon volcanic lava, summon a huge monster to fight by your side or summon a thunderstorm? I don't think so. The runes are just stat increases... Nothing more.

well in fact, some runes does call in spells like a missile shower, or even summon creatures like stone doggy or parrots. ^^
i even remember one rune summoning an azura golem to help you in your fight.

[scole]

Messaggio originale di steelwork:

Messaggio originale di neuronfly:

Does the runes in GW2 summon a meteor shower from the sky, split the ground to summon volcanic lava, summon a huge monster to fight by your side or summon a thunderstorm? I don't think so. The runes are just stat increases... Nothing more.

well in fact, some runes does call in spells like a missile shower, or even summon creatures like stone doggy or parrots. ^^
i even remember one rune summoning an azura golem to help you in your fight.

don't forget they can also summon a magnetic field that repels projectiles

[Bob Newbie]

Messaggio originale di neuronfly:

To all the people saying I should go play FFXIV or WoW: Right now I'm playing ESO. It has the best horizontal progression system in the entire mmo industry. Everything is better in ESO compared to GW2.

1)Story is better
2)Gear system is better (the monster sets are awesome)
3)Questing system is better. The quests in ESO have deep story behind them. Not like GW2 where you have to complete stupid hearts with no backstory behind them.
4)Satisfaction is better. When I complete a veteran dungeon in ESO I feel satisfied after getting a powerful set. But in GW2 whenever I complete a fractal I feel nothing. No satisfaction... just hallow.
5)Zones are better
6)Graphics are better
7)Music is better
8)Content update release schedule is better
9)Endgame content and progression is better. In ESO after you reach level 50 a whole new progression system opens up called the Champion System where you can further increase your character power and gain over 3000 levels.
10)Character build diversity is better. In ESO you can customise your build diversity in a lot of ways but in GW2 build diversity is non existent.

In short: Everything is better in ESO compared to GW2.

I honestly dont think You have played GW2.

1: The story is fine, that is very subjective as well
2: The gear system is fine in GW2.
3: The questing system is the same as in any other MMO. What you are talking about? the quest in ESO is no different from the main story line quest in GW2. The side quest are the same boring mmo stuff in both games.
4: That is once again Subjective.
5: ONCE again Subjective. IMO gw2 has better zones compared to ESO or XIV
6: ART style is different.. ONCE AGAIN Subjective
7: see as above
8: I give you that one
9: You are aware that GW2 has the same sort of system in place. After you level to 80 you start working on Mastery points. This is how i know you haven't played GW2 and most likely a shill for ESO. Not Everything is just about pewpew power numbers tho!
10: You for real bro?
11: PVP is 100x better on guild wars 2 than eso or xiv (thought id add that one for you)

[neuronfly]

I am sick and tired of all the fanboys in the thread. I have played all the 4 mmos (FFXIV, WoW, ESO and GW2) and have multiple max level characters in all these games. And my point still stands and will always stand. ESO, FFXIV and WoW are 10000000 times better mmorpgs than GW2.

Right now I have ESO, FFXIV and WoW all installed in my PC except GW2. GW2 is permanently uninstalled from my PC.

[Jeanne]

Messaggio originale di neuronfly:

I am sick and tired of all the fanboys in the thread. I have played all the 4 mmos (FFXIV, WoW, ESO and GW2) and have multiple max level characters in all these games. And my point still stands and will always stand. ESO, FFXIV and WoW are 10000000 times better mmorpgs than GW2.

Right now I have ESO, FFXIV and WoW all installed in my PC except GW2. GW2 is permanently uninstalled from my PC.

FFXIV is expensive as hell. If it was buy to play & not sub only I might get into it.

[neuronfly]

Messaggio originale di Jimmie:

Messaggio originale di neuronfly:

I am sick and tired of all the fanboys in the thread. I have played all the 4 mmos (FFXIV, WoW, ESO and GW2) and have multiple max level characters in all these games. And my point still stands and will always stand. ESO, FFXIV and WoW are 10000000 times better mmorpgs than GW2.

Right now I have ESO, FFXIV and WoW all installed in my PC except GW2. GW2 is permanently uninstalled from my PC.

FFXIV is expensive as hell. If it was buy to play & not sub only I might get into it.

Try ESO then. I assure you its 1000000 times better than GW2.

[Jeanne]

Messaggio originale di neuronfly:

Messaggio originale di Jimmie:

FFXIV is expensive as hell. If it was buy to play & not sub only I might get into it.

Try ESO then. I assure you its 1000000 times better than GW2.

I already play eso. I have multiple chars already.

[Tiberius]

Messaggio originale di neuronfly:

I am sick and tired of all the fanboys in the thread. I have played all the 4 mmos (FFXIV, WoW, ESO and GW2) and have multiple max level characters in all these games. And my point still stands and will always stand. ESO, FFXIV and WoW are 10000000 times better mmorpgs than GW2.

Right now I have ESO, FFXIV and WoW all installed in my PC except GW2. GW2 is permanently uninstalled from my PC.

and my point still stand too: GW2 is a better mmorpg than any of those

[Angoril]

Messaggio originale di neuronfly:

And my point still stands and will always stand.

Fanboys aside, you gotta understand that what you're doing here is trying to force your opinion on others. Whether that's your goal or not I don't know but that's what it comes out as.

You may enjoy GW2 the least compared to other games and that's perfectly fine. Personally I have never played ESO to be able to compare the 2 directly (thinking of buying it the next time it's on discount), WoW I played a looong time ago and didn't enjoy it and FFXIV is not something I would ever be interested in due to the GCD on everything. So, for me, GW2 is miles ahead of 2 out of the 3 you mention but that's just my preference. It's not wrong or right, just what I personally enjoy.

[neuronfly]

Messaggio originale di Angoril:

Messaggio originale di neuronfly:

And my point still stands and will always stand.

Fanboys aside, you gotta understand that what you're doing here is trying to force your opinion on others. Whether that's your goal or not I don't know but that's what it comes out as.

You may enjoy GW2 the least compared to other games and that's perfectly fine. Personally I have never played ESO to be able to compare the 2 directly (thinking of buying it the next time it's on discount), WoW I played a looong time ago and didn't enjoy it and FFXIV is not something I would ever be interested in due to the GCD on everything. So, for me, GW2 is miles ahead of 2 out of the 3 you mention but that's just my preference. It's not wrong or right, just what I personally enjoy.

If you have not played the previous final fantasy games then FFXIV won't interest you. I have played almost all the FF games since 1999 starting from FFVI so the Final Fantasy franchise holds a special place in my heart.

And regarding ESO previously the game was average. But recently within these 2 years Zenimax has made so many positive changes that I'm in love with the game right now. Trust me when I say this that when you start ESO and cross CP level 160 you will forget about GW2.