The laughing stock of MMO PvP

[R131]

Matchmaking tilts randomers vs veterans over and over and over again, which defeats the purpose of a ranking system and the duo queue since they are basically a full premade vet team vs a bunch of randomers.

Top streamers(dead, no real viewership) are rumoured to be friends with the developers so the game and matchmaking is balanced around what their small egos want, not what is sporting.

Esports turned away from guild wars 2 because the developers clearly cannot grasp the meaning of "sport" and instead opt for egotistical clique balancing and matchmaking, this game's PvP is barren for a reason.

[LSD]

Esports sucks as bad as PvP does.

The reason no one likes GW2 PvP is -- besides the fail balance. lack of development, bugs, bots, poor MM, inability to counter etc. etc. -- because the game's combat is terrible for balanced PvP. There's way too many means if invulnerability, mixed with messed up terrain collision/LOS for the game to ever be regarded as a quality PvP contender. Being able to just dodge roll .5 seconds of damage or reflect 8 seconds worth of projectiles is just...bad. Invuln doesn't work in PvP.

It only works for WvW because there are other factors at play.
And let's not get into the game's terrible animations making telegraphs a matter of memorising the class rather than the visuals displayed to you...

[Q]

Well mmo's shouldn't aim to esports, period, everytime that happens it leads to disaster due all the resources put into boosting that nonsense, want esports? go dota, go pubg, go counter strike, you won't find a dr disrespect for this game or other mmo.

Meta has changed a lot, some seasons its condi meta ahhh the memories of reaching Legendary and getting a legendary title with condi scourge who melted anyone and everyone.
gw2 pvp is chaotic, too much to digest at once, excessive amount of CC, insane bursts from current broken op specs dealing massive damage. I tried my old tank/healer builds for druid and guardian... after some matches it was much more productive to go full glass cannon and either kill or be killed fast.

anyways, esports failed and it was obvious why, mmos are not designed for esports, an mmo can't be an esport game, name one succesful mmo with esports. Way too many skills, multiple ways to negate dmg, conditions everywhere and CC its not fun as esports.

You need simple things to be a sucessful esport game, Dota, LoL, heck even Smite still holding 20 to 12k players everyday since 2017. you have four or five skils including the ultimate and a very specific role, support, dps damage dealer, tank, jungle, healers, you have 3 lanes and gw2 tried that but having to summon skritts with barrels and fighting at mid to get one is tedious and not fun, it would be much better just letting npcs spawn automatically while players fight in the two available lanes.
GW2 isnt a moba neither a battle royale or a CoD or PUBG or anything like that,

Literally NO mmorpg in the next list, everything is fighting games, mobas, shooters, battleroyales, sports (fifa).

https://escharts.com/top-games?order=peak

https://www.reddit.com/r/MMORPG/comments/q36fn1/will_we_ever_see_a_successful_mmorpg_esport/

https://www.reddit.com/r/MMORPG/comments/611hl0/can_mmo_games_become_esports_what_is_your_opinion/

https://www.reddit.com/r/MMORPG/comments/u0cr3o/mmos_should_have_never_become_competitive/

[Daniel]

Who even plays this for PvP? The best thing about GW2 is that it’s effectively a single player game where I don’t have to indulge in passive-aggressive ‘friendships’ with people that break at the slightest problems while still offering the 1000s of hours of sandbox content and replayability of an MMO.

[SinisterSlay]

PVP in GW2 is pretty awful. But it's what people want. Don't dare post on the game forums with ideas to fix PVP.
The only reasonably good PVP they have is the wintersday snowball fight. Because all stats and skills are fixed, so balance is less of an issue. And yet still unbalanced with only 3 classes.
But in my experience with fixed class PVP, it balances itself eventually as players learn more.

[ytisrite]

Given the low population, matchmaking has been relegated to queuing Silvers with Plat players.

[ah_puch]

Not just PVP. Poor game doesn't get any content whatsoever. What was the last teeny tiny content patch, Nov 7th?

4k players on prime Sunday time.