Guild Wars 2

Guild Wars 2

Shinoba Nov 22, 2023 @ 12:41am
Any important content that i miss when i only get the last expansion?
Cant afford the bundle but could either buy Secrets of the Obscure or the other 3 expansions. Will i miss any important stuff when i dont buy all of them? Heard there are must have mounts in the game and such in older expansions.
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Hefutoxin Nov 22, 2023 @ 12:51am 
If you want the most for your money, buy them in the order they came out.

There is much less in the newest expansion than in any of the previous ones.
Wolverine Nov 22, 2023 @ 12:55am 
Well, can't say for sure what would be the better option here, but i bought the Elder Dragon Saga-Collection Deluxe (with the boat and the mount) through the GW2 web page for 29,99€, and i'm going to wait for a sale on the latest expansion before getting that one too.
Teratus Nov 22, 2023 @ 12:56am 
For the most part.. story.
Secrets of the Obscure is a mini expansion isolated but connected loosely to the overall main story of Gw2 in the sense that it takes place after the main story has ended.

So there will be at best, some mild spoilers for the main story but overall not to much as far as I am aware.

As for Mounts, you will gain a new method of acquiring the Skyscale in Secrets of Obscure.
But you will have to buy other expansions and some living world chapters in order to get the others.

Likewise some Mastery abilities are locked to other expansions and living world so there's that as well.
Although to note, most of the mastery abilities locked to living world are more or less exclusive to those living world chapters anyway so you won't be missing much there.

The Expansion mastery lines however are beneficial across all of the game.. many of them being mounts and mount abilities, and then there is the gliding ability which comes with Heart of Thorns.

There are a couple of mastery abilities in Secrets of the Obscure that also benefit from other mastery abilities from older expansions and living world as well.
These are minor and in no way essential to enjoy Secrets of the Obscure but they are nice little perks for players who have played older content and unlocked those mastery powers.

So overall not you're missing too much.
If the story is important to you though then I do advise playing it in order as it was released but that's entirely up to you.

Oh and keep in mind that all living world chapters (except season 1 which is free) are able to be purchased and permanently unlocked on your account via the gemstore with gems.. so you can use in game gold to buy those gems and not actually have to pay a cent of real world money to obtain them.

It's not cheap however and you will need to spend a lot of gold to buy them all but if you're good with farming and regularly do your dailies to take advantage of the new Wizards Vault system then you can amass the required amount of gold in a reasonably decent amount of time tbh.
Check for Gold Farming guides online etc to find some highly profitable ones.
There are many ways to make lots of gold in this game fairly quickly tbh so this method of obtaining the living world is very doable with some patience and persistence.
Last edited by Teratus; Nov 22, 2023 @ 1:01am
Hefutoxin Nov 22, 2023 @ 1:38am 
Originally posted by Teratus:
So overall not you're missing too much.

The exact opposite. You aren't buying much with the newest expansion.

Living World is tied to the expansion they launched with. You'd need Heart of Thorns and Path of Fire to get the Living World seasons that matter (3,4, and 5). Season 2 is just story.

It's just not a good idea to buy Secrets of the Obscure unless you have most, if not all, the previous stuff. There just isn't much content in the newest expansion.
Teratus Nov 22, 2023 @ 2:27am 
Originally posted by Hefutoxin:
The exact opposite. You aren't buying much with the newest expansion.

Living World is tied to the expansion they launched with. You'd need Heart of Thorns and Path of Fire to get the Living World seasons that matter (3,4, and 5). Season 2 is just story.

It's just not a good idea to buy Secrets of the Obscure unless you have most, if not all, the previous stuff. There just isn't much content in the newest expansion.

That's because the current expansion is "incomplete" and won't be complete until the last update next year and the next expansion gets announced.

All of these new mini expansions will be like this, pay a smaller fee than previous expansions and then get the whole expansion in several parts released over the span of a year.

So far with Secrets of the Obscure we've had the launch content and 1 out of 3 of the large updates.

We still have 2 parts of the final map to come and we are half way through the story.
We have another challenge mode for a strike to come and a new fractal with a challenge mode.
We have a new weapon set for every class coming.
2 batches of Mastery Updates to come.
2 seasonal refresh's of the Wizards Vault to come which will include a ton of easy gold, account upgrades and easy access to gen 1 legendary weapons.
New Set of Legendary Armour to come as well as a second tier of it.
Legendary Relic is coming as well as more Relic abilities.
And also new Legendary enemies are coming to the Convergences game mode.
And that's without mentioning any new Achievements, rewards, minipets and skins etc that are likely coming with future updates as well.

This still plenty of good stuff in Secrets of the Obscure that we don't have yet but have already paid for with the initial price.

So you cannot judge the expansion already based on what you have when everything you're getting overall for the initial price isn't even in the game yet.
By all means judge away after the final update drops next year if you still feel like it was not worth it the price.

I like to do my research before I buy stuff so I feel like I have a pretty good idea of what i'm getting for my money with these mini expansions and frankly I think it's a bargain compared to most other games and their DLC's.

As far as the new approach goes.. honestly I prefer it, even if it means getting a smaller content dump per expansion than what we've had in the past.

Expansions will be cheaper and no more living world nonsense to worry about either.
To this day it still bugs me that living world kinda screws newer players over.
Having to pay for story I got for free just because I was around when it came out feels unfair to me.. and it's long bothered me that the longer Gw2 goes on for the more bloated that living world cost is going to get.
So I'm glad Anet have killed that concept off now and provided new ways of getting easy gold so players can more easily obtain it just by playing the game even casually.

On top of that no more content droughts.. good riddance.
Nothing peeved me off more about Gw2 than having to wait sometimes years for new content, or had to suffer through mediocre content because it had to be rushed out.. we all remember the last half of IBS right.
Not to mention the bloat of grinds and currencies and useless mastery abilities that didn't mean anything in the long run.. just stuff to keep us busy really.

I never liked that system, it was flawed and messy so i'm looking forward to having a new expansion every year even if it means I gotta wait a couple months between updates.. fine.
It still feels like I have a lot more to look forward to with this new system than I did with the old one.

More so now that future content will be self contained stories as well.
I enjoyed the Dragon storyline overall but now that it's done I really want to get on with exploring the world and going to new places.. or old places, experiencing new stories and stuff rather than spending another 10 years on a single threat.

There's a lot of loose ends to tie up in Gw2 and a lot of places we've never seen.
I really want to visit the Isles of Janthir and the Woodland Cascades.
I want to see the homelands of the Norn and Kodan now that Jormag no longer has claim on them.
I want to visit the depths of Tyria again, find the ancient Asuran and Skritt homes and see what the Stone Dwarfs have been upto since the death of Primordus stripped them of the purpose of their existence.
! want to visit the Largos cities at the bottom of the ocean.
Return to the Realm of Torment, visit some of the Demon cities there and fight some Titans.
I wanna explore Drowned Kaineng and see what's going on with Zhaitans minions there.
I want to see what's going on on the Battle Isles.
I want to explore the Western Continent, discover new races, creatures and cultures.
I want to go to the Scavenger's Causeway and stop a mainland invasion from Menzies the mad and his Shadow Army which have found a way to escape from the chunks of God Realm Kralkatorrik pulled into Tyria with him as he crashed into the ocean.
I want to see what happens if the human Gods attempt to return to Tyria after the s*** Balthazar pulled.
I wanna know what happened to Malyck and the other Pale Trees.

There is so much I wanna do and see in Gw2.. so much potential for future expansions and stories.
So I for one am eagerly awaiting many more expansions in the coming years.
Last edited by Teratus; Nov 22, 2023 @ 2:51am
Hefutoxin Nov 22, 2023 @ 3:28am 
Originally posted by Teratus:
That's because the current expansion is "incomplete" and won't be complete until the last update next year and the next expansion gets announced.

All of these new mini expansions will be like this, pay a smaller fee than previous expansions and then get the whole expansion in several parts released over the span of a year.

Ok, but all of that is irrelevant.

If she buys just SOTO, she doesn't get all the Masteries from 3 expansions, A new class, 3 Elite Specs per class, 14 zones across 3 expansions, Jade Bot mechanics, Fishing, some mounts, the option of purchasing even more with Living World 3, 4, and 5.

I like SOTO too, but this is a no-brainer.
Teratus Nov 22, 2023 @ 5:25am 
Originally posted by Hefutoxin:
If she buys just SOTO, she doesn't get all the Masteries from 3 expansions, A new class, 3 Elite Specs per class, 14 zones across 3 expansions, Jade Bot mechanics, Fishing, some mounts, the option of purchasing even more with Living World 3, 4, and 5.

Yeah but that goes without saying really.. not owning something means not having access to it.

I don't put much importance on things like Elite Specs and Mounts as they're not "essential" to play the core game nor Secrets of the Obscure content thus they're not "important" in that regard.
And without the expansion story the additional regions OP won't get access to are pretty irrelevant to the content they can play.

I'm not saying don't buy those expansions or anything, I definitely recommend all of it to everyone who plays this game.
So OP should definitely get it all if they like the game.
Joker Nov 22, 2023 @ 5:37am 
Get HoT + PoF
That will give you plenty of content untill you can afford the rest
There's winter sale on the horizon as well
Shinoba Nov 23, 2023 @ 5:23am 
Thanks for the answers. Will get HoT and PoF bundle first then and maybe EoD and the new one some time later.
ah_puch Nov 23, 2023 @ 12:57pm 
SoTo doesn't even deserve $7.5, get the older ones to experience what the game was like during it's golden age. EoD and SoTo will come crashing down as silly disappointments after you experience HoT and PoF.
Q Nov 23, 2023 @ 3:07pm 
Originally posted by Ahri:
Thanks for the answers. Will get HoT and PoF bundle first then and maybe EoD and the new one some time later.

Good choice, Hot & Pof are enough for months and much more, im still doing stuff in those expansions and i've been playing since 2015. by the time u get curious about eod there will be another special sale so no need to rush it and buy everything at once unless u have the money for that if thats the case go ahead.
Jin- Nov 23, 2023 @ 7:58pm 
Supposedly the latest expansion has more interesting and darker story in a tight pack
LSD Nov 23, 2023 @ 10:56pm 
Originally posted by ah_puch:
SoTo doesn't even deserve $7.5, get the older ones to experience what the game was like during it's golden age. EoD and SoTo will come crashing down as silly disappointments after you experience HoT and PoF.
Exactly this.
HoT's meta events, despite being watered down a little after release, are still massively popular today.
PoF, despite failing miserably with meta events, added some decent stuff to the game.
EoD was abandoned by both players and devs alike soon after release.
SoTo is the Steam Greenlight of expansions. To Be Finished...
Q Nov 23, 2023 @ 11:34pm 
Originally posted by LSD:
Originally posted by ah_puch:
SoTo doesn't even deserve $7.5, get the older ones to experience what the game was like during it's golden age. EoD and SoTo will come crashing down as silly disappointments after you experience HoT and PoF.
Exactly this.
HoT's meta events, despite being watered down a little after release, are still massively popular today.
PoF, despite failing miserably with meta events, added some decent stuff to the game.
EoD was abandoned by both players and devs alike soon after release.
SoTo is the Steam Greenlight of expansions. To Be Finished...

Wrong, this is just lies and misinformation debunked multiple times by many in this community. HoT metas are popular, yes.
in PoF people do junundu in the desolation, the "dogs" meta in vabbi, dead house, aurgury rock and doppelganger and more, those are not as popular as HoT metas but "failing miserably" is an exaggeration.
Dunno whats your time zone but i see ppl in EoD all the time, what you say is another lie and i doubt you even have SoTo, someone who actually owns the expansion knows its pretty decent and metas are always populated, considering how much did hot and pof cost at release, the price for soto is pretty good.
LSD Nov 24, 2023 @ 12:45am 
Originally posted by Helloween:
Originally posted by LSD:
Exactly this.
HoT's meta events, despite being watered down a little after release, are still massively popular today.
PoF, despite failing miserably with meta events, added some decent stuff to the game.
EoD was abandoned by both players and devs alike soon after release.
SoTo is the Steam Greenlight of expansions. To Be Finished...

Wrong, this is just lies and misinformation debunked multiple times by many in this community. HoT metas are popular, yes.
in PoF people do junundu in the desolation, the "dogs" meta in vabbi, dead house, aurgury rock and doppelganger and more, those are not as popular as HoT metas but "failing miserably" is an exaggeration.
Dunno whats your time zone but i see ppl in EoD all the time, what you say is another lie and i doubt you even have SoTo, someone who actually owns the expansion knows its pretty decent and metas are always populated, considering how much did hot and pof cost at release, the price for soto is pretty good.
lol ok, lies and misinformation from the guy claiming Deadhouse is what draws crowds. It's literally only ever done by newer guys trying to get the griffon.
Augury Rock's the only decent one from PoF, the rest are abject trash, and either broken, or comprised of repetitive hoovering up events (junundu, pre-doppel, pre-pinata) and don't see a lot of life. And even then, most people can't be bothered hoovering up spirits after Augury or dealing with the broken Doppel that they never bothered to fix.
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