horrible graphics engine

[亥PORCO]

The game is still the best mmo for PLAYERS but there is no point in continuing to play it with this rubbish graphics engine, they say they have improved but it is still rubbish, if there are a few more players on the screen the performance is horrible even on a video card more current and a powerful processor, throne liberty seems like the only mmo that will be as good as gw2 is for players who are looking for gaming experience and not just get strong and be toxic in pvp but even so gw2 is still better, but the motor graphics in the Tl It's much better logically, so I'm going to go for it soon and never go back to gw2 if they don't INVEST IN THE TRASH GRAPHICS ENGINE

[messanoir]

Originally posted by 亥PORCO:

The game is still the best mmo for PLAYERS but there is no point in continuing to play it with this rubbish graphics engine, they say they have improved but it is still rubbish, if there are a few more players on the screen the performance is horrible even on a video card more current and a powerful processor, throne liberty seems like the only mmo that will be as good as gw2 is for players who are looking for gaming experience and not just get strong and be toxic in pvp but even so gw2 is still better, but the motor graphics in the Tl It's much better logically, so I'm going to go for it soon and never go back to gw2 if they don't INVEST IN THE TRASH GRAPHICS ENGINE

I get that your upset, and as I mentioned in a different post, I'm sorry you are having this experience. I'd be happy to help and see if we can make it better for you.

The reason I say this, well, I described the way it looks to me in the other post, but I will say here, the game runs smooth me, even during world boss fights with a whole crowd of people, and my PC specs are not that new.

If you could, could you share your PC specs, and the settings you use in the game for video? That help in trying to make the game experience better for you, so you can enjoy the game again.

[𝒞𝒶𝓉𝓎𝒶♡]

Originally posted by 亥PORCO:

The game is still the best mmo for PLAYERS but there is no point in continuing to play it with this rubbish graphics engine, they say they have improved but it is still rubbish, if there are a few more players on the screen the performance is horrible even on a video card more current and a powerful processor, throne liberty seems like the only mmo that will be as good as gw2 is for players who are looking for gaming experience and not just get strong and be toxic in pvp but even so gw2 is still better, but the motor graphics in the Tl It's much better logically, so I'm going to go for it soon and never go back to gw2 if they don't INVEST IN THE TRASH GRAPHICS ENGINE

The engine is old yes, compared to latest Unreal Engine 5 games.

Still, looks good enough for me. I play all settings Highest/maxed out in 1440p resolution. Zero lag or performance issues. I can play full graphics in full meta event maps and same for full WvW zerg fights, no issues at all.

I have 2023 generation Ryzen 7 something something X3D and RTX 4070, so like medium tier gaming pc i'd think (since no 4090 haha). But being this year generation made performance really good compared to my previous setup, in many games. :)

If you have issues in situations with lots of people, try lowering your Character Model Limit setting down a bit, not the Character Model Quality, but the Limit (it loads less full characters in high character situations, with million particle effects and stuff, that you would not even notice anyways). You still see your party members etc and other people up to certain point, but not load all 100 people effects.

[亥PORCO]

exactly, I need to reduce everything in the game so the fps doesn't become unstable, I've already tested it on other computers, I know that sometimes you're focused on the game and don't notice it, especially because motionblur helps, but when you stop having fun and it starts to bother it becomes clearer

[亥PORCO]

I don't need to reduce many things in other games when there are many players, and that's why it bothers me because they have better graphics than gw2 and work much better, I don't want to play other games, the only game I want to play is guild wars 2 but so I I have no choice, I don't feel good playing a game for a long time with many drops in performance

[SinisterSlay]

my ne w7800x3d let me max the game with max characters and get 60fps.
Even when I did Soo-Won yesterday, I was getting 45fps with everything on max and all those players.
I can't name an MMO that can do that, so it's hard to compare relative performance optimizations.

[ah_puch]

I can't name an MMO that can do that, so it's hard to compare relative performance optimizations.

Try playing more than one single mmo and you will see how poor the graphics and performance in this game are. It's bottom of the barrel especially the shaders and overall details.

[SinisterSlay]

Originally posted by ah_puch:

I can't name an MMO that can do that, so it's hard to compare relative performance optimizations.

Try playing more than one single mmo and you will see how poor the graphics and performance in this game are. It's bottom of the barrel especially the shaders and overall details.

Previous I played was tera online. Are we comparing to that?
What MMO has 60+ map wide player events and gets good performance?

[LSD]

It's a game engine from before 2005. It's notorious for running and looking like trash. They bodged an upgrade from DX9 to 11 the other year, but even that runs worse than DX11/12 wrappers for the game made by fans.

The thing is that 99.9% of the game can be won by holding skill key #1, so Anet has no reason to care that it's terrible.

[messanoir]

Originally posted by ah_puch:

I can't name an MMO that can do that, so it's hard to compare relative performance optimizations.

Try playing more than one single mmo and you will see how poor the graphics and performance in this game are. It's bottom of the barrel especially the shaders and overall details.

Originally posted by LSD:

It's a game engine from before 2005. It's notorious for running and looking like trash. They bodged an upgrade from DX9 to 11 the other year, but even that runs worse than DX11/12 wrappers for the game made by fans.

The thing is that 99.9% of the game can be won by holding skill key #1, so Anet has no reason to care that it's terrible.

Wow, both of you in the same thread at the same, almost, time!.. How are you? When are the three of us gonna get together and finally get some proof for all your claims? I'm all excited to see you two in action. :)

[LSD]

Kinda weird there buddy. But i'll bite: what "proof" of what "claims" are you looking for? That the engine is awful?
This thread, as well as the millions that turn up over the years, are pretty damning evidence are they not?

[messanoir]

Originally posted by LSD:

Kinda weird there buddy. But i'll bite: what "proof" of what "claims" are you looking for? That the engine is awful?
This thread, as well as the millions that turn up over the years, are pretty damning evidence are they not?

No, I will admit the engine is an older one, so are all the Bethesda games, so what. On my machine, the game looks great, got the videos to show it too. "awful" is subjective, a term that you like to apply to a lot of your complaints, but hey, your choice. Sorry you don't like the game, lot's of other people do. *shrugs*

The claims of your's I am referring to, well there are so many, shall I go back and copy all of our conversations from other topic posts, or just link them all in one long post? 'Cuz I have the time to do so. :)

[messanoir]

Originally posted by 亥PORCO:

I don't need to reduce many things in other games when there are many players, and that's why it bothers me because they have better graphics than gw2 and work much better, I don't want to play other games, the only game I want to play is guild wars 2 but so I I have no choice, I don't feel good playing a game for a long time with many drops in performance

Ok, everything aside, I would like to address the actual gameplay and performance issues you are having. If that is alright?

You mention "drops in performance". Could you be more specific please? Is it an issue of textures not looking or acting right, like being blurry, or popping in and out?

Is it character models, or enemy or NPC models looking odd, or popping in and out?

Is it stuttering or freezing? Is disconnects?

Basically, I/we need more information, your problems could actually be fixable if we try. :)

[messanoir]

Originally posted by ah_puch:

I can't name an MMO that can do that, so it's hard to compare relative performance optimizations.

Try playing more than one single mmo and you will see how poor the graphics and performance in this game are. It's bottom of the barrel especially the shaders and overall details.

That might be true if your Windows (Or other OS), computer, video card, or other hardware is not configured correctly, or optimally. Could you provide some photo or video of the issue, makes it easier to diagnose and fix.

I ask, as it runs fine on mine, and in my opinion, looks great. So happy to help you fix your issue and get the game going for ya. :)

[ah_puch]

What MMO has 60+ map wide player events and gets good performance?

ESO. Try 120+ map wide player events. That doesn't even include companions or sorcerer, warden and necromancer pets. 60 fps? 45 fps? I forgot how incredibly amateur the GW2 optimization was. Also achieving it by looking way worse.

[LSD]

Originally posted by messanoir:

Originally posted by LSD:

Kinda weird there buddy. But i'll bite: what "proof" of what "claims" are you looking for? That the engine is awful?
This thread, as well as the millions that turn up over the years, are pretty damning evidence are they not?

No, I will admit the engine is an older one, so are all the Bethesda games, so what. On my machine, the game looks great, got the videos to show it too. "awful" is subjective, a term that you like to apply to a lot of your complaints, but hey, your choice. Sorry you don't like the game, lot's of other people do. *shrugs*

The claims of your's I am referring to, well there are so many, shall I go back and copy all of our conversations from other topic posts, or just link them all in one long post? 'Cuz I have the time to do so. :)

C'mon, always with the deflecting and the "whatabout"s. We're talking about this game, not other games. And lol at that example: Bethesda games are notoriously bad. Their latest game is getting laughed at for being a rehash of a rehash of a rehash. People are finally getting tired of it.

"well there are so many" seems like you'll take any excuse to make with the verbosity, eh?