Estimated remaining lifespan of the game

[Papicho]

Greetings, I just saw the update for spring 2023, and must say that i'm still very surprised with how open they are when it comes to future developments and how they bothered notifying their playerbase even in Steam. Coming from ESO, guess i was a little abused back then haha.

I also saw the GW2 wiki a few months ago with a planning, i was skeptical and little hopeful. Anyway, I want to ask about roughly remaining lifespan of the game. I saw somewhere a year ago about their plan of making at least another expansion after EOD, i think i also saw something suggesting the making of a Guild Wars 3.

Unless the playerbase in gw2 remains strong even with the coming of gw3 without mentioning other great mmorpgs that are coming, then it will likely fall in a state similar to that of gw1, which is barely in basic life-support. I have nothing against the current state of gw1, in opposite i found it quite admirable when i recall how some games i played closed brutally.

Dear veterans, with all your knowledge about the game, studio, forum, legit infos and rumours ... How much does gw2 have left?

[Nibbie]

Several years at a minimum; I would expect at least five years, and if the technology holds up, maybe they could push ten. They have over a year of content in active development, and have (and still are) making various engine upgrades; that isn't something you do to a game near the end of its lifecycle.

[DarkSlayer197]

Thing is, if they do make and release a Guild Wars 3, Guild Wars 2 would still have a very active player base. Guild Wars 1 still does to this day which is great considering that (not for Steam sadly) you can do milestone achievements in Guild Wars 1 that net you bonus goodies in Guild Wars 2. Mostly minor stuff, but still some cool stuff if people wanna earn them.

[Papicho]

引用自 Nibbie：

Several years at a minimum; I would expect at least five years, and if the technology holds up, maybe they could push ten. They have over a year of content in active development, and have (and still are) making various engine upgrades; that isn't something you do to a game near the end of its lifecycle.

Fair number, and cool for an old game that makes around ten times less the revenue of wow if i remember correctly.

引用自 DarkSlayer197：

Thing is, if they do make and release a Guild Wars 3, Guild Wars 2 would still have a very active player base. Guild Wars 1 still does to this day which is great considering that (not for Steam sadly) you can do milestone achievements in Guild Wars 1 that net you bonus goodies in Guild Wars 2. Mostly minor stuff, but still some cool stuff if people wanna earn them.

Well, that's nice. When finishing gw2 instead of going to the third, i'll be probably going for gw1. I like good retro games.

[Tuathaqin]

In the latest Studio Update[www.guildwars2.com], they are talking about yearly mini-expansions, long-term updates to the core game, the engine and the graphics, and a lot more.
It feels like they are planning for lot of years of more Guild Wars 2. Depending on the success of future releases, I wouldn't be surprised to one day celebrate my first character's 20th birthday. (I will, maybe, even have a chance to max out the yearly festival achievement points. If you know, you know.)

[( ◉Д◉) 彡]

I don't think GW3 is coming in couple of years. Maybe they'll wait for UE5 to mature.

[mysaga]

Staffing up, engine upgrades, core systems upgrades, new plan for future expansions - they are definetelly not planning on ending Guild Wars 2. Of course, if things go wrong there could be a sudden unexpected end, but right now I am not seeing that. I got a bit worried about Throne and Liberty as competition under the NCSoft umbrella, but given the feedback I heard so far that game might end up being a disappointment for the western market.

Some time last year they looked for staff working on a unrevealed project set in the Guild Wars universe, using UE5 - that is all we actually know and what inspired rumors of a GW3. Personally I don't think that is the project they are working on. Instead I think it is more likely a game with "spin off" character, maybe not even remotely a MMORPG. They could go back to GW1 and make a modern version of it, they could create a PvP only game, they could even do a roller beetle racing game or a griffon riding flight simulator. What ever it might actually be, it doesn't need to compete with GW2.

[DocCovington]

I don't think they would be doing this major engine overhaul if the game had only a few more years left in it.

[ah_puch]

引用自 DocCovington：

I don't think they would be doing this major engine overhaul if the game had only a few more years left in it.

You mean directx11? That's a 14 years old graphics api not a "major engine overhaul" lmao

[Frost]

引用自 DocCovington：

I don't think they would be doing this major engine overhaul if the game had only a few more years left in it.

Among other things, yeah.

Doesn't really make sense, typically the opposite would happen and they would start winding down on many things like balance changes, plans for future content, not to mention engine updates and working on stripping old code out of the game and replacing it with better code. Not things you see in a game that is lined up for the guillotine.

[DarkSlayer197]

引用自 Frost：

引用自 DocCovington：

I don't think they would be doing this major engine overhaul if the game had only a few more years left in it.

Among other things, yeah.

Doesn't really make sense, typically the opposite would happen and they would start winding down on many things like balance changes, plans for future content, not to mention engine updates and working on stripping old code out of the game and replacing it with better code. Not things you see in a game that is lined up for the guillotine.

Which the changes and updates they have done regarding that explains the issues of things breaking. A real spaghetti code from the looks of it.

[Rhapsody]

Any live service video game based on tech from early 2000s is legacy spaghetti by now. GW2 is holding together just fine in that light.

[DarkSlayer197]

引用自 Rhapsody：

Any live service video game based on tech from early 2000s is legacy spaghetti by now. GW2 is holding together just fine in that light.

Which is why I don't envy the engine dev team working on that. But I wish them good luck.

[Frost]

引用自 DarkSlayer197：

引用自 Rhapsody：

Any live service video game based on tech from early 2000s is legacy spaghetti by now. GW2 is holding together just fine in that light.

Which is why I don't envy the engine dev team working on that. But I wish them good luck.

Indeed.

It's a huge undertaking for sure and many things can go wrong. The latest update broke a bunch of stuff but they fixed it relatively quickly which is a good sign. Hopefully they learn from it and will be able to avoid or at least mitigate any other issues that may arise.

[DarkSlayer197]

引用自 Frost：

引用自 DarkSlayer197：

Which is why I don't envy the engine dev team working on that. But I wish them good luck.

Indeed.

It's a huge undertaking for sure and many things can go wrong. The latest update broke a bunch of stuff but they fixed it relatively quickly which is a good sign. Hopefully they learn from it and will be able to avoid or at least mitigate any other issues that may arise.

I sorta doubt that. They only have a small team working on it, so issues will arise. That said, as you stated, they tend to fix it rather quickly.

[SinisterSlay]

They haven't shutdown Guild Wars 1 yet. Not sure you need to worry about game 2 until at least 15 years after game 1 is shut down.