GW2 vs FF14 vs BDO

[MargeShrimpson]

What one should I play and why

[likous]

Well I can only talk about GW2 since it is the MMO that I have played with more hours and then WoW.
I will tell you the good and bad things in my opinion:

- GW2 has horizontal progression. Your skills and your build is more important than your armor/weapons. Any player can start playing now thanks to horizontal content. Maps created in 2015 are still relevant
- GW2 is the best Open World MMO. The maps feel alive (especially the expansions). Its main feature is dynamic events
- GW2 rewards you with whatever you do through materials/exp
- The core is free with some anti-bot restrictions and for you to buy the game.
- It has the best mounts of all MMOs.
- There are no quests. In their place are boring golden hearts.
- There is very little group instantiated content
- The classes are very different from each other and fun to play.
- The expansions are better than the core.
- The core is a very basic for you to learn to play your class.

[Joker]

Originally posted by likous:

Well I can only talk about GW2 since it is the MMO that I have played with more hours and then WoW.
I will tell you the good and bad things in my opinion:

- GW2 has horizontal progression. Your skills and your build is more important than your armor/weapons. Any player can start playing now thanks to horizontal content. Maps created in 2015 are still relevant
- GW2 is the best Open World MMO. The maps feel alive (especially the expansions). Its main feature is dynamic events
- GW2 rewards you with whatever you do through materials/exp
- The core is free with some anti-bot restrictions and for you to buy the game.
- It has the best mounts of all MMOs.
- There are no quests. In their place are boring golden hearts.
- There is very little group instantiated content
- The classes are very different from each other and fun to play.
- The expansions are better than the core.
- The core is a very basic for you to learn to play your class.

2012-2015 content also still relevant :)

[Joker]

Open World
GW2 wins

Story
FFXIV wins

Dungeons/Raids (Instanced content)

FFXIV wins

PVP

GW2 wins

Mounts

GW2 wins

Fashion

GW2 wins

Graphics

GW2 wins (yes these are subjective :D)

Consistent updates

FFXIV wins (at the cost of monthly sub)


It is rly subjective on what you prefer from your MMO
For me GW2 hit my checkboxes

[likous]

Originally posted by Joker:

Originally posted by likous:

Well I can only talk about GW2 since it is the MMO that I have played with more hours and then WoW.
I will tell you the good and bad things in my opinion:

- GW2 has horizontal progression. Your skills and your build is more important than your armor/weapons. Any player can start playing now thanks to horizontal content. Maps created in 2015 are still relevant
- GW2 is the best Open World MMO. The maps feel alive (especially the expansions). Its main feature is dynamic events
- GW2 rewards you with whatever you do through materials/exp
- The core is free with some anti-bot restrictions and for you to buy the game.
- It has the best mounts of all MMOs.
- There are no quests. In their place are boring golden hearts.
- There is very little group instantiated content
- The classes are very different from each other and fun to play.
- The expansions are better than the core.
- The core is a very basic for you to learn to play your class.

2012-2015 content also still relevant :)

You are right, but core is a little boring

[Joker]

Originally posted by likous:

Originally posted by Joker:

2012-2015 content also still relevant :)

You are right, but core is a little boring

Can't say I agree
Played core for 1000's of hours the first 2 years

[PuffyTheMagicalDragon]

GW2 has a new expansion coming out next month, so it is a good time to start playing and catch up. BDO is a ton of fun too for different reasons. I play both, and do not play FF. Both are on sale, and a good time to grab them. I have all the expansions and stories in Guild Wars 2, and spent a couple hundred dollars on Black Desert as well. If you have the money, get both. BDO has something for everyone, you can grind monsters or do life skilling like cooking, hunting, fishing, etc, so that is fun to me. Asmongold of WoW is going to start playing Black Desert, and the game population is exploding right now at like 40k on Steam (and a lot more on site), which is double than normal.

[MargeShrimpson]

Originally posted by PuffyTheMagicalDragon:

GW2 has a new expansion coming out next month, so it is a good time to start playing and catch up. BDO is a ton of fun too for different reasons. I play both, and do not play FF. Both are on sale, and a good time to grab them. I have all the expansions and stories in Guild Wars 2, and spent a couple hundred dollars on Black Desert as well. If you have the money, get both. BDO has something for everyone, you can grind monsters or do life skilling like cooking, hunting, fishing, etc, so that is fun to me. Asmongold of WoW is going to start playing Black Desert, and the game population is exploding right now at like 40k on Steam (and a lot more on site), which is double than normal.

when did asmongold say he was going to play BDO?

[seb]

As someone whose played all:
FF14 is good, but combat is horrible, Story is great at peak, and mid most of the time. Community has positives and negatives, but is alright. You'll find friends fast. Side content is nice and can keep you busy, if you are fans of like yakuza minigames, you'll enjoy that side content. I have a lot of dislike towards a lot of systems, but if you aren't a longtime MMO player you'll enjoy it as your first MMO, its probably the best to play as your first.

GW2 I have been really enveloped in recently, feels like everything as an upgrade that I disliked from FF14 and just improved, I havent done endgame yet but I really enjoy max level content I've done, especially PvP.

BDO I find to just be an endless suffering grindfest with gender locked classes, and I don't like to play females in RPG games so I am just meant to suffer with only 5-6 class options out of 20+

I come from a big raiding background, so if you want to do raids, I suggest FF14, you'll enjoy them the first time you go around, but it gets extremely tiresome due to the very limiting combat and combat variety of FF14.

[Hefutoxin]

GW2 - Casual, Open World
FFXIV - Story, Raiding
BDO - Action

[Bladestorm]

Originally posted by likous:

Well I can only talk about GW2 since it is the MMO that I have played with more hours and then WoW.
I will tell you the good and bad things in my opinion:

- GW2 has horizontal progression. Your skills and your build is more important than your armor/weapons. Any player can start playing now thanks to horizontal content. Maps created in 2015 are still relevant
- GW2 is the best Open World MMO. The maps feel alive (especially the expansions). Its main feature is dynamic events
- GW2 rewards you with whatever you do through materials/exp
- The core is free with some anti-bot restrictions and for you to buy the game.
- It has the best mounts of all MMOs.
- There are no quests. In their place are boring golden hearts.
- There is very little group instantiated content
- The classes are very different from each other and fun to play.
- The expansions are better than the core.
- The core is a very basic for you to learn to play your class.

But to answer your question, I will go with FF14. I've heard mostly good things about it. It tends to be the mmo for people who hate mmos. I played BDO for like...a week...and I uninstalled it. The game just kept shoving high-level items in my inventory (dailies, etc) when I'm at low level and can't even afford storage yet. I found it cheap and tasteless.

Regarding gw2, only some of your points are accurate. I'll address each in the order you listed them:

- Haha! Wait until you get to masteries. Some masteries (such as in HoT) are literally required to navigate maps or to complete story instances. That ain't horizontal. It just "looks" that way since there is no specific stat boost.

- I'll give it that. gw2 has successfully created an experience of an open world and the event system.

- Whenever something is 'free-to-play' guess what? You're the product!

- I can't speak of any other mmos with mounts, so I'll give in here.

- Yes, "renown hearts" otherwise known as chores.

- No. There IS group content. (dungeons, fractals, raids, strike missions). The thing is, gw2's combat is so shallow where it's basically 'tank-and-spank' and 'stack on this'.

- No. Classes essentially function the same (some better than others). 'Tank-and-spank', boon-givers and AoE spammers.

- For sure. Although with EoD it is clear that gw2 is slipping.

- In other words, a chore to prepare you for the "endgame". (aka gw2 is not great...play through it to get to the "good parts".)

[Joker]

- I can't speak of any other mmos with mounts, so I'll give in here.

Really not much competition here imo
GW2 by far the best mounts in any MMO
They are not just a tool for getting from A to B fast.
They all have a purpose, and on top of that they feel really good and fun to use and have really good animations.
Also another small hting is NO CAST BAR.
This one matters a lot imo.
May not sound like a big deal, but makes the game feel so much more smooth when you don't have to wait 3 seconds before you mount.
They feel more platfomer like than MMO like (think Spyro the dragon etc)

[mysaga]

Originally posted by MargeShrimpson:

What one should I play and why

In order to answer this, we would need to know what type of player you are and what you enjoy the most when in a game. The other posters already made list with reasons why and in general I can agree with them, with some subjective exceptions, I guess.
If you are not sure what type of player you are: Try them all. Each of these games is good at certain aspects and have reasons to enjoy them. And when you look back at it, you will understand which type of games within the genre you enjoy the most and pick the most fitting game for you.

As one example: The combat works very different in each of these games.
FF14 resembles the most to the typical old tab target system and especially in the beginning the system feels slow due to a "global cooldown" dictating the pace of many skills. The more you level up, the more exceptions you get to the global cooldown and you start "weaving".
GW2 has a hybrid system between tab target and action combat. There is no global cooldown, but every skill has a different cooldown. You are rarely "rooted in place" when performing a skill and you are meant to avoid taking damage by using the dodges instead of expecting a healer to heal you.
BDO is completely action combat including a combo system - which is interesting, but due to tha amount of grind it still can get boring.

[amarrminer]

i would suggest neither of them. buy a pet instead , much better use of your time
and money.

[DarkSlayer197]

Or you can play them all. You have no need to be loyal to one MMO or one game. You are free to play each of them without the need to feel like you need to be attached to just one.

[Flushing]

I really hated FF14. People say the story is great, but I played for a week, what little of the story existed was incomprehensible to me.

More important, the leveling was absolutely horrible.

The type of mindless grind that reminded me of the absolute worst mmos have to offer.

I think if your a big fan of WoW, then you would like FF14, and may prefer it to WoW.

But, if you completely parted from WoW and find it irredeemably bad, then FF14 is still going to feel like a vanilla post-wow mmo.

Gameplay is still tab targetting and rotations , leveling and questing still feels like a job.

I can't comment on BDO.

I like GW2 because the game doesn't make you have to do anything . Right now, I'm playing Destiny 2 for the same reasons.