Trash game

[☦️Nekbeth]

Not even have decent servers for download 8GB update

[LSD]

If your download speed is slow for updates, most likely the problem is the ridiculoualy old game engine that uses one enormous compressed file for the game's data. When updates come, the launcher has to search that enornous archive for each file, read into memory, then write to disk.
Even with an SSD and decent RAM, it's known to slow to a crawl, e.g. with the dx11 changes last month.

[☦️Nekbeth]

Originally posted by LSD:

If your download speed is slow for updates, most likely the problem is the ridiculoualy old game engine that uses one enormous compressed file for the game's data. When updates come, the launcher has to search that enornous archive for each file, read into memory, then write to disk.
Even with an SSD and decent RAM, it's known to slow to a crawl, e.g. with the dx11 changes last month.

What does the game engine has to do with the download servers on the launcher?

[Rhapsody]

The update process can sometimes take a while but it's by far not the least efficient patcher I've seen MMOs use.

It may be that downloading is slow when the patch is deployed due to not only players who are starting the game downloading it, but also anyone who has enabled content streaming while playing.

There may also be regional differences in how quickly patches can be downloaded.

They could probably take a look at scalability of the servers, but personally I think what we have right now for a decade-old MMO is decent enough. The original file and patching system for GW was developed to be economical and it's holding up surprisingly well considering its age.

[☦️Nekbeth]

Originally posted by Rhapsody:

The update process can sometimes take a while but it's by far not the least efficient patcher I've seen MMOs use.

It may be that downloading is slow when the patch is deployed due to not only players who are starting the game downloading it, but also anyone who has enabled content streaming while playing.

There may also be regional differences in how quickly patches can be downloaded.

They could probably take a look at scalability of the servers, but personally I think what we have right now for a decade-old MMO is decent enough. The original file and patching system for GW was developed to be economical and it's holding up surprisingly well considering its age.

I have 300 mb for download and is downloading at 50 kb/s on a game that is 100% online, how is that good?

[Jin-]

Their game server tech is best in the industry to be fair. There is never downtime even on major game updates or expansion launches. Only if something is wrong hardware or network wise broken they go down

[LSD]

Originally posted by Pinguinelski 🐧🐧:

Originally posted by Rhapsody:

The update process can sometimes take a while but it's by far not the least efficient patcher I've seen MMOs use.

It may be that downloading is slow when the patch is deployed due to not only players who are starting the game downloading it, but also anyone who has enabled content streaming while playing.

There may also be regional differences in how quickly patches can be downloaded.

They could probably take a look at scalability of the servers, but personally I think what we have right now for a decade-old MMO is decent enough. The original file and patching system for GW was developed to be economical and it's holding up surprisingly well considering its age.

I have 300 mb for download and is downloading at 50 kb/s on a game that is 100% online, how is that good?

The problem is your system. As i said, the game uses the same engine as 2003 or 2004 or whatever with Guild Wars 1. GW1 was like a 5GB game; this is a ~70GB game.
Your system is making an already slow process even slower.

[☦️Nekbeth]

Originally posted by LSD:

Originally posted by Pinguinelski 🐧🐧:

I have 300 mb for download and is downloading at 50 kb/s on a game that is 100% online, how is that good?

The problem is your system. As i said, the game uses the same engine as 2003 or 2004 or whatever with Guild Wars 1. GW1 was like a 5GB game; this is a ~70GB game.
Your system is making an already slow process even slower.

How is my system when im downloiading at 35 mb/s on steam and in launcher is 50kb/s ur down

[LSD]

Originally posted by Pinguinelski 🐧🐧:

Originally posted by LSD:

The problem is your system. As i said, the game uses the same engine as 2003 or 2004 or whatever with Guild Wars 1. GW1 was like a 5GB game; this is a ~70GB game.
Your system is making an already slow process even slower.

How is my system when im downloiading at 35 mb/s on steam and in launcher is 50kb/s ur down

Upgrade.

[☦️Nekbeth]

Originally posted by LSD:

Originally posted by Pinguinelski 🐧🐧:

How is my system when im downloiading at 35 mb/s on steam and in launcher is 50kb/s ur down

Upgrade.

UNA PATADA EN EL ORTO TE VOY A UPGRADEAR BOBO

[Rhapsody]

Originally posted by Pinguinelski 🐧🐧:

I have 300 mb for download and is downloading at 50 kb/s on a game that is 100% online, how is that good?

The answer was already given:

Originally posted by LSD:

the launcher has to search that enornous archive for each file, read into memory, then write to disk.

But besides that, the other options are temporary load on the download servers or your download being throttled for some other reason.

The current download/installation transfer rate isn't the most accurate indicator due to the way the file system works. It's difficult to get a full grasp on the situation due to all the fluctuating variables like file size and complexity of the patch, the structure of the files it contains, and everything with their and your network and your hardware.

We've been putting up with it for almost 18 years by now. It could be better but it's not broken and does perfectly what the game needs of it: Patch the game efficiently.

Your Steam rates are not directly comparable either, mostly due to the file system the game uses. There are games on Steam which use just as "bad" compression or archiving of files. But on Steam that is more transparent since you can see network and disk rates separately.

[Angoril]

You should look a little closer to the way GW2 handles patches. It doesn't download 1 big file but rather several (a few thousand) smaller ones. Depending on the size of what you are downloading, the speed will differ as the size of the file may not allow the download to reach high numbers. A 1 GB file, will have time to raise your download speed but something that is 100 MB, won't.

I never had issues with it patching slowly by the way. I have a 200 Mbps line and the game is installed on a Samsung 980 (M.2 NVMe SSD) which is fast, but not the fastest one can buy. The last patch they had as an example (the one with the new zone, not the hotfixes that followed) took me 2 minutes to download fully.

[Tuathaqin]

Originally posted by Jin-:

Their game server tech is best in the industry to be fair. There is never downtime even on major game updates or expansion launches. Only if something is wrong hardware or network wise broken they go down

So much this. I don't think many appreciate the QoL in this aspect of GW2. If this is the cause of the fluctuating download speeds, I'll take this rather than having the servers shut down for half a day every time there is an update.

[Rhapsody]

Originally posted by Tuathaqin:

I'll take this rather than having the servers shut down for half a day every time there is an update.

Yep, a bit of my soul crumbles away to the Mists each time I have to suffer a weekly maintenance or something in other games.

[Zethell]

Well, you're not wrong about the download servers.
They can be incredibly slow at times. But the game servers are among the best in the industry imo. Wow freezes up with 50 player pvp combat. GW2 can handle 3 times that.

[Tuathaqin]

Originally posted by Letozeth:

Well, you're not wrong about the download servers.
They can be incredibly slow at times. But the game servers are among the best in the industry imo. Wow freezes up with 50 player pvp combat. GW2 can handle 3 times that.

I think it's intentional. Downloads are slower if there are a lot of small files in the update. On the flipside, many other games that download an archive have a second progress bar for unpacking the download and actually patching the game files. In case of GW2, once the download is complete, you are ready to log in and play.