How p2w is Gw2 compared to games like WF/PoE

[Rat Comedenti | TTV]

The game looks amazing and seems really fun and the one time purchase model is really appealing to me but f2p games always have a p2w problem or dont appreciatte your time
Thank you in advance

[Charger]

Originally posted by Xeph The Tamagotchi:

If you lose to an EoD spec you just lack an understanding or have a bad build. I use core builds most of the time and do just fine in 1v1 hell condi engi core build is still strong.

I can also tank a bunch of players on my reaper (heart of thorn Necro) and not due quickly while my team kills them off in WvW. It's all about knowing your class,spec and it's limits and who you are facing. Hell some EoD specs are trash, like revenant or guardians.

Ah.. the 2 grub specs.... Bunker condi/rifle engi and Reaper.
but you're probably winning against ''bad'' players or players new to those specs
The most broken EoD specs atm are Mechanist (engi) who can 1 shot pet auto attack and Harbinger (necro) who also 1 shot you with a very similar attack.
They've broken Ranged dmg (Engi rifle to suit the Mechanist EoD spec.) and Condi dmg.
All you see is Mechs, Harbinger, Core Rifle/Bunker Engi, perma root Druids(ranger) and Reaper.
And Reapers always have been ridiculous.
They have a burst of 30-40k dmg(A heavy armor class like Guard only has 15k base hp), has 30k hp and can tank enormous dmg whilst wearing a lioncloth.

As I said: Arenanet has no clue how a mmo is supposed to function, nor what class balance is.
They simply don't know how to calculate and/or proportion anything, or focus on the skill players are complaining about without any regard for gameplay or relation to any other skill.
Which echoes through the entire game with idiotic time gated grindwalls, ridiculous time gated reqs for crafting and complete brain dead Boss mechanics.

But the vast majority of the playerbase is completely unaware of this because all the do is join pve squads to farm the exact same Metas and dailies over and over, because grind.
And then spend the rest of their time ingame standing a main hubs, showing off their ridiculous glow in the dark store bought outfits.

Aside from players SELLING Dungeons and Raids and the Meta pve squads LFG is completely dead.
You can only organize your own Group/squad if you have a Commander Tag (300g) which is absolutely ridiculous.
Arenanet simply has no clue.

[RhinoBarbarian]

Originally posted by Coinín:

Originally posted by Xeph The Tamagotchi:

If you lose to an EoD spec you just lack an understanding or have a bad build. I use core builds most of the time and do just fine in 1v1 hell condi engi core build is still strong.

I can also tank a bunch of players on my reaper (heart of thorn Necro) and not due quickly while my team kills them off in WvW. It's all about knowing your class,spec and it's limits and who you are facing. Hell some EoD specs are trash, like revenant or guardians.

Ah.. the 2 grub specs.... Bunker condi/rifle engi and Reaper.
The most broken EoD specs atm are Mechanist (engi) who can 1 shot pet auto attack and Harbinger (necro) who also 1 shot you with a very similar attack.
They've broken Ranged dmg (Engi rifle to suit the Mechanist EoD spec.) and Condi dmg.
All you see is Mechs, Harbinger, Core Rifle/Bunker Engi, perma root Druids(ranger) and Reaper.
And Reapers always have been ridiculous.
They have a burst of 30-40k dmg(A heavy armor class like Guard only has 15k base hp), has 30k hp and can tank enormous dmg whilst wearing a lioncloth.

As I said: Arenanet has no clue how a mmo is supposed to function, nor what class balance is.
They simply don't know how to calculate and/or proportion anything, or focus on the skill players are complaining about without any regard for gameplay or relation to any other skill.
Which echoes through the entire game with idiotic time gated grindwalls, ridiculous time gated reqs for crafting and complete brain dead Boss mechanics.

But the vast majority of the playerbase is completely unaware of this because all the do is join pve squads to farm the exact same Metas and dailies over and over, because grind.
And then spend the rest of their time ingame standing a main hubs, showing off their ridiculous glow in the dark store bought outfits.

Aside from players SELLING Dungeons and Raids and the Meta pve squads LFG is completely dead.
You can only organize your own Group/squad if you have a Commander Tag (300g) which is absolutely ridiculous.
Arenanet simply has no clue.

More and more wrong each and every time. You are the one that has no clue.

[RhinoBarbarian]

Originally posted by Coinín:

Originally posted by RhinoBarbarian:

[redacted] (or else this gets too long)
More and more wrong each and every time. You are the one that has no clue.

You have almost 1k games in your account. GW2 only recently became available on Steam.
You probably barely played it and just disagree to disagree.
That, or...
I hope you get yourself something nice from that Anet paycheck...

all the best.

4,000+ hours in GW2. Been playing it since long before Steam release. Absolutely nothing you say is true.

[mysaga]

Originally posted by Coinín:

ah yes...
Arenanet is outright lying, their ''balance patch'' is an absolute joke.
Those videos and their ''Balance'' streams are just your run of the mill generic corpo blabber.
Everyone in WvW is laughing at it and those that aren't; are down right furious and leaving the game.
You are either an Arenanet employee or have a very limited understanding of the classes, the gameplay and the game itself
On top of which I don't care to waste time on anyone with such a pedantic tone.

All the best.

I don't know where this conspiracy theory comes from, but as soon as you like a game and dare to say so there is somebody who claims you must be payed be the developer. My profile is public, as well as my recent posts. Go figure.
But basically the same goes with any public statement of the devs: Everything the tell is a lie accoring to some. In most cases this is just a pretty obvious application of ad hominem.

[Darkmaster]

a lot if you ask me.

[TheTool]

Originally posted by Lady Alcina Dimitrescu Fanboy:

a lot if you ask me.

What do you win?

[Saber]

Originally posted by Coinín:

Originally posted by Xeph The Tamagotchi:

If you lose to an EoD spec you just lack an understanding or have a bad build. I use core builds most of the time and do just fine in 1v1 hell condi engi core build is still strong.

I can also tank a bunch of players on my reaper (heart of thorn Necro) and not due quickly while my team kills them off in WvW. It's all about knowing your class,spec and it's limits and who you are facing. Hell some EoD specs are trash, like revenant or guardians.

Ah.. the 2 grub specs.... Bunker condi/rifle engi and Reaper.
but you're probably winning against ''bad'' players or players new to those specs
The most broken EoD specs atm are Mechanist (engi) who can 1 shot pet auto attack and Harbinger (necro) who also 1 shot you with a very similar attack.
They've broken Ranged dmg (Engi rifle to suit the Mechanist EoD spec.) and Condi dmg.
All you see is Mechs, Harbinger, Core Rifle/Bunker Engi, perma root Druids(ranger) and Reaper.
And Reapers always have been ridiculous.
They have a burst of 30-40k dmg(A heavy armor class like Guard only has 15k base hp), has 30k hp and can tank enormous dmg whilst wearing a lioncloth.

As I said: Arenanet has no clue how a mmo is supposed to function, nor what class balance is.
They simply don't know how to calculate and/or proportion anything, or focus on the skill players are complaining about without any regard for gameplay or relation to any other skill.
Which echoes through the entire game with idiotic time gated grindwalls, ridiculous time gated reqs for crafting and complete brain dead Boss mechanics.

But the vast majority of the playerbase is completely unaware of this because all the do is join pve squads to farm the exact same Metas and dailies over and over, because grind.
And then spend the rest of their time ingame standing a main hubs, showing off their ridiculous glow in the dark store bought outfits.

Aside from players SELLING Dungeons and Raids and the Meta pve squads LFG is completely dead.
You can only organize your own Group/squad if you have a Commander Tag (300g) which is absolutely ridiculous.
Arenanet simply has no clue.

Mechs melt if you hit them with condy dmg . Most of them dont have enough ways to mitigate it .And if you are power or mele line of sight if you can and get close in . Keep them spinning and hit from the back . Be faster and more agile . Dont run at them open space at a straight line . They are not at a targeting range . Dont give them easy kills .

Blocks , refelcts , evasion it all helps .

As for Harbingers condi cleanse and movement . Don't let them hit you with the wombo combo . Make them waste it and then cut them down .

[Saber]

Originally posted by Elazul:

The advantage Legendary gear gives you is the ability to swap stats if I remember correctly. That is an advantage even if small. To say there is none is disingenuous at best.

Ascended weapons can also be stat swapped . Number of times you can do it to rack up the price of mats to the price of a single legendary is in the~ 100X-300x of times the price of a single legendary .
And the average player does not mess around with it as much to justify the price of a legendary compared to ascended just for the stat swap . Its a convenience for sure but its a pricy one .

Even if you had a specific need to make use and have each of the 21 stat sets crafting the ascended versions would still be cheaper then crafting a single legendary .
Most people pick few things they want to do with a character and they stick with it for loner periods of time .

So the point of it presenting an edge over people not spending $ is non existent . People can do the same thing with other weapons of same stat value without spending $

[DrWilyeCoyote]

Just saying, you rarely see a bladesworn in pvp.

[Xeph The Tamagotchi]

Originally posted by Saber:

Originally posted by Coinín:

Ah.. the 2 grub specs.... Bunker condi/rifle engi and Reaper.
but you're probably winning against ''bad'' players or players new to those specs
The most broken EoD specs atm are Mechanist (engi) who can 1 shot pet auto attack and Harbinger (necro) who also 1 shot you with a very similar attack.
They've broken Ranged dmg (Engi rifle to suit the Mechanist EoD spec.) and Condi dmg.
All you see is Mechs, Harbinger, Core Rifle/Bunker Engi, perma root Druids(ranger) and Reaper.
And Reapers always have been ridiculous.
They have a burst of 30-40k dmg(A heavy armor class like Guard only has 15k base hp), has 30k hp and can tank enormous dmg whilst wearing a lioncloth.

As I said: Arenanet has no clue how a mmo is supposed to function, nor what class balance is.
They simply don't know how to calculate and/or proportion anything, or focus on the skill players are complaining about without any regard for gameplay or relation to any other skill.
Which echoes through the entire game with idiotic time gated grindwalls, ridiculous time gated reqs for crafting and complete brain dead Boss mechanics.

But the vast majority of the playerbase is completely unaware of this because all the do is join pve squads to farm the exact same Metas and dailies over and over, because grind.
And then spend the rest of their time ingame standing a main hubs, showing off their ridiculous glow in the dark store bought outfits.

Aside from players SELLING Dungeons and Raids and the Meta pve squads LFG is completely dead.
You can only organize your own Group/squad if you have a Commander Tag (300g) which is absolutely ridiculous.
Arenanet simply has no clue.

Mechs melt if you hit them with condy dmg . Most of them dont have enough ways to mitigate it .And if you are power or mele line of sight if you can and get close in . Keep them spinning and hit from the back . Be faster and more agile . Dont run at them open space at a straight line . They are not at a targeting range . Dont give them easy kills .

Blocks , refelcts , evasion it all helps .

As for Harbingers condi cleanse and movement . Don't let them hit you with the wombo combo . Make them waste it and then cut them down .

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ THANK YOU, ppl just want "I win" buttons. The classes are not 100% balanced but what mmo has perfectly balanced pvp that is pve focused?

[Saber]

Originally posted by Coinín:

Originally posted by mysaga:

I attacked your behaviour and criticized your way of "discussing the game" and made a borad assumption that this behaviour might be part of your general behaviour. But that is after you handing out a generalized attack towards the community. Be a bit more self-reflective and bring some facts instead just opinions, then we can have an actual discussion.

Let's start with this:
https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/123508-guild-wars-2-balance-philosophy/

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/124132-november-29-balance-update-preview/

Don't want to read it yourself? Here are some discussions videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M0WfMGN68w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DGhd9b2c4U

ah yes...
Arenanet is outright lying, their ''balance patch'' is an absolute joke.
Those videos and their ''Balance'' streams are just your run of the mill generic corpo blabber.
Everyone in WvW is laughing at it and those that aren't; are down right furious and leaving the game.
You are either an Arenanet employee or have a very limited understanding of the classes, the gameplay and the game itself
On top of which I don't care to waste time on anyone with such a pedantic tone.

All the best.

I have not seen a single even minor change that did not have someone in wvw complain .
If they added a single blue dot on a random part of the map . There would be at least one person complaining about it in the map chat or forums in less then 24h.

As for balance can it be all over the place yes. Its also like that in most big or complex games. Stuff gets over used then hit with nerf hammer untill next time when it needs a buff to balance something else out . Its not a simple thing to do when you have thousands of players spending thousands of hours more in game then a single dev an work in a life time .
People are going to find stuff that works and stuff that does not . They are going to find a way to break some of it in a way that devs never predicted .
And then they are going to use it until enough newbies or average players complain .

[knocks]

Only p2w for the vain.

[DrWilyeCoyote]

On a side note,Coinin do you struggle with dragon hunter? I see that as a "noob check" class. If you don't give yourself stab when they try their pull people can tend to die quick.

Also DH isn't EoD.

[Charger]

Originally posted by DrWilyeCoyote:

On a side note,Coinin do you struggle with dragon hunter? I see that as a "noob check" class. If you don't give yourself stab when they try their pull people can tend to die quick.

Also DH isn't EoD.

A rather ''noob level'' bait...
lol

[RhinoBarbarian]

Originally posted by Coinín:

Originally posted by DrWilyeCoyote:

On a side note,Coinin do you struggle with dragon hunter? I see that as a "noob check" class. If you don't give yourself stab when they try their pull people can tend to die quick.

Also DH isn't EoD.

A rather ''noob level'' bait...
lol

Afraid to answer the question huh, troll?