End of Dragons enough?

[Shinoba]

Im poor student so i can't afford all expansions. Do i miss out when i only buy the latest one? Heard you don't get flying mounts if you dont get the other ones?

[Saber]

Originally posted by Chronos:

Originally posted by Shinoba:

Doesn't sound fun to play dated content where you dont see any players tho

I agree, people will say that some still do those contents, while it may be true, it's not where the action is or where people focus their endgame time in, you'll only see other players who are late to the party doing that kind of stuff.

They need to move on to GW3 or revamp a lot of their game systems and overall experience in order to keep gw2 growing..

"where people focus their endgame time in "

Vets still do stuff even in starting zones for many things . Festivals , map complete , legendries , farming , guild missions , racing , story , dailys , dungeons , side story events , collections , achievements , world bosses ......

And the game is growing last expansion sold more then the previous one , and I see new players in starting zones , expansion maps , dungeons , fractals , wvw ...
For now they are working on bringing back the season 1 content and next bits of story in the long term game had enough sales to fund next expansion development .
As for gw3 it would take years like 2x or more times compared to expansion so 4-6 years .

[A.C.I.D.🌀23]

Playing nearly 3 month now, and just finished Path of Fire. And now i stop doing story for a while cause you dont really need EoD for gearing up, working on Ascended gear and farm and craft the hell out of it to get my first legendary ! If you want to spend money, just buy the first two expension combo. You also need PoF for the mounts.

[Saber]

Originally posted by Shinoba:

Doesn't sound fun to play dated content where you dont see any players tho

Core game = the bit that me and many others paid for 10 years ago is now f2p its not dead because people still run those maps daily for all kinds of stuff . Legendries , map complete , guild missions , collections , races , festivals , story , events , world bosses , achievements metas , farming , fishing , dungeons .....

The game has a big world but its interconnected expansions did not make core game or any of the older content useless.

[mysaga]

The short answer: If you are just after flying mounts, the cheapest way reagarding real money would be Path of Fire. The griffon does not need access to anything else and you will also unlock many other mounts as well.

And as others have already stated - it might not be the newest content, but GW2 approaches the whole open world in a way that everything stays relevant. Sure, there are some more and less popular maps, but you are rarely completely alone. Make use of the map chat if you need some help with stuff.
And especially with the steam release I guess you will see some other people taking a shortcut to these mounts and playing the same content.

[Saber]

Originally posted by Tyrian Mollusk:

Originally posted by Treznor:

EoD grants you access to many of the coolest Elite Specialization like Mech and Samurai style warrior.

Mechanist isn't popular because it's cool, but because it's easy, and warrior is an awful gimmick. The EoD specs are pretty much all a bit lackluster and feel decidedly low on ideas, like EoD in general. Put that with the fact that buying PoF+HoT gets you two spec options instead of just one, and nobody should consider EoD for elite specs.

EoD does have a lot of introductory aspects, which is absolutely bizarre and more than a little pathetic. I mean, what is wrong with your company when your THIRD expansion, following dozens of hours of story and years of content, seems so constructed to introduce people to your game? It's like they took their ideas for a better new player experience and instead of improving the actual base game they just sold that as the expansion whether it made sense or not.

The whole expansion is just so light on everything, while still being an even bigger drag on rewards. It's such a contrast to HoT and PoF.

Hot and Pof had years to improve . You are forgetting or you just have not played the content when it was fresh . Meta events got buffed with rewards new stuff got added . Same will probably happen with Eod Stuff .

And as for why they added stuff for new people Eod is selling as a separate new thing . While Hot and Pof are combined up . They probably saw a decent chunk of new players in recent times and decided to add some small things that might help guide them along .
And they did do similar things to core game . They added colections with rewards for exploring starting maps , they changed some of the world bosses and given them new skins , they added mounts after lvl 10 to any account that has any expansion , improved on some of the preset settings ,
So i see no reason for them to try to do better with new releases and then slowly over time do similar stuff with older things .

[Treznor]

Originally posted by Tyrian Mollusk:

Originally posted by Treznor:

EoD grants you access to many of the coolest Elite Specialization like Mech and Samurai style warrior.

Mechanist isn't popular because it's cool, but because it's easy, and warrior is an awful gimmick. The EoD specs are pretty much all a bit lackluster and feel decidedly low on ideas, like EoD in general. Put that with the fact that buying PoF+HoT gets you two spec options instead of just one, and nobody should consider EoD for elite specs.

EoD does have a lot of introductory aspects, which is absolutely bizarre and more than a little pathetic. I mean, what is wrong with your company when your THIRD expansion, following dozens of hours of story and years of content, seems so constructed to introduce people to your game? It's like they took their ideas for a better new player experience and instead of improving the actual base game they just sold that as the expansion whether it made sense or not.

The whole expansion is just so light on everything, while still being an even bigger drag on rewards. It's such a contrast to HoT and PoF.

Oh no my apology for not being specific, i wasn't comment on how useful the specs are but the coolest here is the way they were designed. Its more about Anime stuffs, cuz you know...mech and quick-drawn stuffs like that.

[shimsham29]

It'd be silly to buy the third expansion instead of getting the first two, especially when the first two often go on sale for 15 bucks.

The comment that it is old content that nobody plays is laughable to anyone that actually plays this game....but hey, don't let those of us actually playing the game get in the way of your assumption about it. Clearly, we have no knowledge of what we speak, especially compared to you or others that haven't even played the game.

[SeaDog]

As others have said, just play the core game and figure it out later. There hundreds of hours of stuff to do without ever buying an expansion.

[Mimeniia]

Even the dreaded Archeage gives mounts, gliders, cars and pets by default. Here you get jack which can be super frustrating at times when trying evade aggroed mobs while trying to hurry to content before the vets clean up the dynamic event.

[Shinoba]

Don't understand why they gate flying mounts this hard tho. If the game has so much content there is no need to right? When i look at world event grinds or other world content on youtube people with flying mounts are there in no time while those without them will never experience the full event. Kinda bad game design in my opinion. The feeling of being "left behind" is one of the worst feelings in MMOs.

[TheTool]

Originally posted by Shinoba:

Don't understand why they gate flying mounts this hard tho. If the game has so much content there is no need to right? When i look at world event grinds people with flying mounts are there in no time while those without them will never experience the full event. Kinda bad game design in my opinion. The feeling of being "left behind" is one of the worst feelings in MMOs.

Because they didn't exist in the game for quite a few years.

[The_Stranguh]

In case this helps, I returned to GW2 after taking a 9 year break. I am running the OG content and early Expansions, havent touched the new Expansion yet, and just about every area is packed with players. I have yet to have an issue with that. And I only just now started the first Expansion.

Also, I believe the Raptor is going to be accessible, atleast temporarily, at lvl 10 no matter if you have the expansions or not.

Also also, I have yet to get any of the flying mounts yet, and leveled a new character to lvl 80 on the OG content with no mount (aside from Raptor) and has a blast.

[Heka7]

Just here to say I've been playing the game on and off since release, have all 3 expansion packs, and I only have a glider, raptor, and springer. That's with 7 max level characters with all sorts of levels of progression.

[Heka7]

Oh forgot to mention, I rarely feel like I'm missing anything at all by not having the flying mounts. They really feel niche when it comes to what situations really call for them.

[Tyrian Mollusk]

Originally posted by Saber:

Hot and Pof had years to improve . You are forgetting or you just have not played the content when it was fresh . Meta events got buffed with rewards new stuff got added . Same will probably happen with Eod Stuff .

I just don't see that kind of change in them. EoD is so thoroughly uninspired, and Anet has been doing so little they don't have to do for so long. I mean we have a bunch of whole elite specs completely unusable in water, and they are going to take this turkey and do what with it? Add some rewards? It's just so meh.

And as for why they added stuff for new people Eod is selling as a separate new thing . While Hot and Pof are combined up .

Yeah, it's separate because it's new, and it's new because it's part four of the story (if you count living seasons, it's part NINE). Who starts out buying part four? That's even besides that it costs more and offers less than the discount bundle of parts 2 & 3. It's just sad/weird self-sabotaging optimism--and tacit admission they lost so many people while they were corporately screwing around before EoD that people might benefit from a reintroduction to the game if they come back...