Guild Wars 2

Guild Wars 2

Shinoba 2022 年 8 月 22 日 上午 3:29
End of Dragons enough?
Im poor student so i can't afford all expansions. Do i miss out when i only buy the latest one? Heard you don't get flying mounts if you dont get the other ones?
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Sustain 2022 年 8 月 22 日 上午 5:51 
You need Living World episodes for some of the mounts as well and honestly unless you are really willing to drop 100 bucks upfront for the xpacks + living world episodes and a few more bucks for bag, bank slots and other convenience stuff you need i would look elsewhere, the game can definitely be a bit expensive for a new player.
最后由 Sustain 编辑于; 2022 年 8 月 22 日 上午 6:01
ChiasaChan 2022 年 8 月 22 日 上午 6:28 
Same naysayers again and again. In another post you claimed you are not here to trashtalk the game but in fact that's just what you do. The first two expansions is what millions of players had for the timespan of 9 years and the original poster will get this by paying only for the second one and getting the first one free.

You do not need to pay real money for the living world episodes because like EVERYTHING else in this game except the three expansion packs, they can be earned ingame. Your "omg you need 100 bucks" crap is nothing else than trashtalking, and like the name says, "convenience stuff" is just that - convenience. You can buy it whenever you have collected enough gold ingame if you feel you want it enough.

You don't NEED any of it, especially not when starting out. To just take the example of the bag and bank slots, simply by doing the easy daily quests you earn 2 gold every day which is enough for two 15-slot bags. On the second day playing you will have added additional 60 slots to your first character, bringing you to 80 slots. You also have 4 additional empty character slots so if your 80 slots on your character plus the space in your bank seems not enough - just make an additional character, spend 2 days worth of daily quests on him (4 gold) and there go another 80 inventory slots for storage.

Some people seem to be really just here to try to make others not play.....
Sustain 2022 年 8 月 22 日 上午 6:47 
Same naysayers again and again. In another post you claimed you are not here to trashtalk the game but in fact that's just what you do. The first two expansions is what millions of players had for the timespan of 9 years and the original poster will get this by paying only for the second one and getting the first one free.

You do not need to pay real money for the living world episodes because like EVERYTHING else in this game except the three expansion packs, they can be earned ingame. Your "omg you need 100 bucks" crap is nothing else than trashtalking, and like the name says, "convenience stuff" is just that - convenience. You can buy it whenever you have collected enough gold ingame if you feel you want it enough.

You don't NEED any of it, especially not when starting out. To just take the example of the bag and bank slots, simply by doing the easy daily quests you earn 2 gold every day which is enough for two 15-slot bags. On the second day playing you will have added additional 60 slots to your first character, bringing you to 80 slots. You also have 4 additional empty character slots so if your 80 slots on your character plus the space in your bank seems not enough - just make an additional character, spend 2 days worth of daily quests on him (4 gold) and there go another 80 inventory slots for storage.

Some people seem to be really just here to try to make others not play.....


Honestly i don't think comments from people playing the game for a decade already are very helpful for new players, fact is they won't farm enough gold to do so as a new player unless they make the game their second job and even then this will take very long.

And the game throws so much crap and currency at players from very low levels on you you are basically required to buy inventory and bank space or throw it all away and that's by design besides this is obviously just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to monetization in this game.
最后由 Sustain 编辑于; 2022 年 8 月 22 日 上午 6:50
Demeth Valknut 2022 年 8 月 22 日 上午 6:57 
If you start with hot + PoF you already have hundreds of hours of gameplay. I'd suggest start with that, buy the living world with in game gold and buy eod when you're done with all the rest, which will take almost thousands of hours
Arki83 2022 年 8 月 22 日 上午 8:13 
引用自 Chronos
引用自 Shinoba
Doesn't sound fun to play dated content where you dont see any players tho

I agree, people will say that some still do those contents, while it may be true, it's not where the action is or where people focus their endgame time in, you'll only see other players who are late to the party doing that kind of stuff.

They need to move on to GW3 or revamp a lot of their game systems and overall experience in order to keep gw2 growing..
You have no idea what you are talking about. Hundreds and hundreds of people do events in the old content every time it pops up. Maybe you should actually play the game before you give advice on it.
Chronos 2022 年 8 月 22 日 上午 8:33 
引用自 Arki83
引用自 Chronos

I agree, people will say that some still do those contents, while it may be true, it's not where the action is or where people focus their endgame time in, you'll only see other players who are late to the party doing that kind of stuff.

They need to move on to GW3 or revamp a lot of their game systems and overall experience in order to keep gw2 growing..
You have no idea what you are talking about. Hundreds and hundreds of people do events in the old content every time it pops up. Maybe you should actually play the game before you give advice on it.

I'm on right now checking LFG tab, there isn't more than 1 or 2 groups for ANY content in the game, ANY, be it end of dragons content, living world 4 and 3, basic dungeons, path of fire, heart of thorns, most of the lfg tabs have 0 groups... so yeah, how does finding a group works in this game? do i have to wait for chat invites and opportunities?
Arki83 2022 年 8 月 22 日 上午 8:41 
引用自 Chronos
引用自 Arki83
You have no idea what you are talking about. Hundreds and hundreds of people do events in the old content every time it pops up. Maybe you should actually play the game before you give advice on it.

I'm on right now checking LFG tab, there isn't more than 1 or 2 groups for ANY content in the game, ANY, be it end of dragons content, living world 4 and 3, basic dungeons, path of fire, heart of thorns, most of the lfg tabs have 0 groups... so yeah, how does finding a group works in this game? do i have to wait for chat invites and opportunities?
Again, if you are in LFG for a meta at 10:40 am and judging the game by that, you have zero clue what you are talking about and you have no credibility. Good bye,
Pigeon Cat 2022 年 8 月 22 日 上午 8:43 
引用自 Shinoba
Doesn't sound fun to play dated content where you dont see any players tho
GW2's base game areas aren't quite as busy as some of the expansion areas, but they're nowhere near dead, either. Many events take place across the whole base game that still have incentives for end-game players to participate in. Expansions in GW2 are based on horizontal progression, meaning that players can reach the maximum "power" level possible in the base game, and the expansions don't take them to higher levels stat-wise. Additionally, the Steam launch is sure to breathe new player life into the base game. The developers are patching up the base game some more and adding even more incentives to play through it in preparation for this.

The base game is free, so I really recommend at least giving it a shot. One of the updates is free trial access to a mount at level 10, but the base game was designed to be completed mount-less initially anyways.

If you do like the game and want more, I'd suggest getting the pack with the first two expansions (Heart of Thorns and Path of Fire). They're full of amazing content, great stories, and cool places. HoT gives you access to various gliding / flying mechanics, and PoF gives you access to a bunch of unique mounts with unique abilities - note, you have to actually play through the game to acquire all of the various mechanics. The first two expansions are the same price as the third one alone, and currently give way more content, so it's a steal!
TheTool 2022 年 8 月 22 日 上午 8:47 
FYI. Buying doesn't "give" you the flying mounts at all. It will take a few months of content before you are eligible to *earn" them.
Plenty of time to save for EoD.
jcm2606 2022 年 8 月 22 日 上午 8:50 
引用自 Chronos
引用自 Shinoba
Doesn't sound fun to play dated content where you dont see any players tho

I agree, people will say that some still do those contents, while it may be true, it's not where the action is or where people focus their endgame time in, you'll only see other players who are late to the party doing that kind of stuff.

They need to move on to GW3 or revamp a lot of their game systems and overall experience in order to keep gw2 growing..

This isn't true at all and it really highlights how little you've seen the game. Heart of Thorns maps were released back in 2015 and are some of the most popular maps in the game, with their meta event chains being ran around the clock by enough players to reach the population limit on a few map instances, which is around double the limit that the latest End of Dragons maps have.

It's not uncommon to see 50+ players running meta events in older content, even reaching 100+ players if the content is popular enough (as is the case with Heart of Thorns). Similar experiences can be had in base game maps between Sparkfly Fen (Tequatl world boss), Bloodtide Coast (Triple Trouble world boss), Iron Marches (Shatterer & Leyline Anomaly world bosses), Gendarran Fields (Leyline Anomaly world boss), etc. Hell, the Leyline Anomaly attracts so many players that it's one of the few times that you get to experience server lag in open world PvE content.
最后由 jcm2606 编辑于; 2022 年 8 月 22 日 上午 8:54
Drake 2022 年 8 月 22 日 上午 8:50 
引用自 figitstorm
引用自 Shinoba
Doesn't sound fun to play dated content where you dont see any players tho
GW2's base game areas aren't quite as busy as some of the expansion areas, but they're nowhere near dead, either. Many events take place across the whole base game that still have incentives for end-game players to participate in. Expansions in GW2 are based on horizontal progression, meaning that players can reach the maximum "power" level possible in the base game, and the expansions don't take them to higher levels stat-wise. Additionally, the Steam launch is sure to breathe new player life into the base game. The developers are patching up the base game some more and adding even more incentives to play through it in preparation for this.

The base game is free, so I really recommend at least giving it a shot. One of the updates is free trial access to a mount at level 10, but the base game was designed to be completed mount-less initially anyways.

If you do like the game and want more, I'd suggest getting the pack with the first two expansions (Heart of Thorns and Path of Fire). They're full of amazing content, great stories, and cool places. HoT gives you access to various gliding / flying mechanics, and PoF gives you access to a bunch of unique mounts with unique abilities - note, you have to actually play through the game to acquire all of the various mechanics. The first two expansions are the same price as the third one alone, and currently give way more content, so it's a steal!

Yeah this. The game is not like any other mmo. People move from areas to areas depending the events. You'll see people in starting areas every couple of hours becasue there are world bosses to kill there. You'll see tons of people in bitterfrost frontier, which is small map that is what 7 years old ? everyday, just because there are trinkets to get from that map to stuff your chars.
Legendaries need you to do a lot of the content, explore every map, so you have to be everywhere, so do a lot of people.
Thanks to the skyscale mount, there are always people doing all of the season 4 maps because you need to level the whole maps to get the stuff for the mount (that can take months).

I do regularly the 4 hot maps for the events (that are non stop everyday, you can do them for hours and never get out of those maps and stuff your pockets of gold) and those are 8 years old.
最后由 Drake 编辑于; 2022 年 8 月 22 日 上午 8:52
Drake 2022 年 8 月 22 日 上午 8:57 
引用自 turbogum
引用自 Chronos
I'm on right now checking LFG tab, there isn't more than 1 or 2 groups for ANY content in the game, ANY, be it end of dragons content, living world 4 and 3, basic dungeons, path of fire, heart of thorns, most of the lfg tabs have 0 groups... so yeah, how does finding a group works in this game? do i have to wait for chat invites and opportunities?

For two reasons:
1. Groups / squads tends to fill up fast, and squads for metas / world bosses often show up good 15-30 minutes before they even start, so that everyone can get on the same map instance before it's full
2. People tend to do exactly that, check the LFG, but not post their own group. I've been running dungeons quite a bit (which as I mentioned before are no longer supported because Anet turned to Fractals and Strikes instead), and every time I posted my own group in the LFG, people would join me pretty fast, within few minutes max

That being said, the LFG system is indeed archaic and pretty bad, and it's not really representative of the in-game activity. If you actually run around the popular maps / events that I mentioned before, or even just check the areas where world bosses happen, you'll see lots of people.

Yeah the lfg is a bit occult if you come from other mmos. For point 1, you need to be proactive, when you start your game session, know what you want to do, check the event timer (wiki or gw2timer or whatever) and show up early, get in the squad, do some events in the areas and when the meta starts, do the meta. Usually from there people will move to the next meta, you just follow the train and get rich.

2. Yeah people are all looking at the lfg, but no one is making one. This is crazy. I always make my lfgs, even when alone, people show up, even dungeons 10 years old, finding a group is not hard, you just have to make one.
John Grind 2022 年 8 月 22 日 上午 9:01 
I would buy hearth of thorns and path of fire bundle. You get most mounts and glider this way, a lot of content, and then in the future you can think of getting end of dragons.
GS Killerkram 2022 年 8 月 22 日 上午 9:19 
My wife has 500 hours and still doesn't have the flying mounts. She never felt she needed them. The game is perfectly playable without them. Some of the meta event trains are harder to follow if you dont have them but with the raptor and springer and with gliding you can do pretty much everything. The gryphon mount is a lot of fun but I actually found the dragon mount to ruin the sense of exploration for me. I often choose to not use it unless I am in a hurry or in an event train where everyone is using it. I reached 2000 hours before I got my dragon mount and I don't feel like I missed some crazy part of the game not having it.
End of Dragons has quite a bit of content and it was made knowing some people would not have all the content. You still get the base game which has a ton of stuff and the new expansion has pretty big zones plus access to 2 very useful mounts and the glider so you will be able to do tons of content still. Next year when you have a spare $30 you can pick up the other expansions, they go on sale all the time and generally come bundled together. Sometimes its cheaper than $30 so if you really want that you can get it. The strangest part will be the story, since you will be jumping into the latest content you will be missing huge parts of the narrative but if the storyline is not something that interests you then its fine, the game has tons of other content to complete. If story and narrative are important then I would get Heart of Thorns and Path of Fire first. Even though its old content the zones are still packed. I find some servers still pretty full with huge groups beating the world bosses and running around doing things. With the release on steam and the mass of new players joining these maps will pack up more. Since almost all loot drops contain useful items for literally everyone there is no concept of old content in this game. Nearly all the content is just content and events are run by everyone all the time. I do world bosses from the core game's release quite frequently and even do the bosses from the first expansion a few times a week still. Not only are the events really fun but the rewards are still awesome to this day. Dont be worried about "old content" because Guild Wars 2 does not make old content irrelevant like other MMOs, almost all content is relevant all the time.
最后由 GS Killerkram 编辑于; 2022 年 8 月 22 日 上午 9:26
Tyrian Mollusk 2022 年 8 月 22 日 上午 9:22 
引用自 Treznor
EoD grants you access to many of the coolest Elite Specialization like Mech and Samurai style warrior.
Mechanist isn't popular because it's cool, but because it's easy, and warrior is an awful gimmick. The EoD specs are pretty much all a bit lackluster and feel decidedly low on ideas, like EoD in general. Put that with the fact that buying PoF+HoT gets you two spec options instead of just one, and nobody should consider EoD for elite specs.

EoD does have a lot of introductory aspects, which is absolutely bizarre and more than a little pathetic. I mean, what is wrong with your company when your THIRD expansion, following dozens of hours of story and years of content, seems so constructed to introduce people to your game? It's like they took their ideas for a better new player experience and instead of improving the actual base game they just sold that as the expansion whether it made sense or not.

The whole expansion is just so light on everything, while still being an even bigger drag on rewards. It's such a contrast to HoT and PoF.
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