My concern with GW2 and Steam

[Obbi]

Now that GW2 is coming to steam, a lot of new people will join the game.

And first of all, gw2 is a really great game.

But, most people are used to a good/okay LFG or LFD system. Most games today you can queue for a dungeon and so on.

In GW2, there are nearly 0 groups for anything in the LFG system, there are like 30 groups to select, pand eople will see 0 groups in all of them besides fractals and raids. Right now as we speak, in the EU there are 4 groups in fractals and 6 groups for raids.

It boggles me that Arenanet has not made a better LFG or LFD system for this game, it will drive many people away from the game.

[Sychon]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the low number of groups the result of low interest in whatever content they are listed under?
If anything, the increase in player population will result in a lot more groups popping up across the board.

[Obbi]

Been playing GW2 since release, never seen a massive amount of groups.

Also , that would mean that there should be a lot of people creating groups for EoD Content, there is n ot

[tonypa]

People prefer to do group content with familiar players and do not want some random player join and ruin their run. If you run fractals/raids daily you already have your own group and do not need to use lfg.

[Demeth Valknut]

They are low number of groups because they fill up within seconds for instanced content, minutes for the rest

[Obbi]

Originally posted by tonypa:

People prefer to do group content with familiar players and do not want some random player join and ruin their run. If you run fractals/raids daily you already have your own group and do not need to use lfg.

many who is going to join GW2 is coming from FFXIV, WOw and so on. this wont fit for regular joe

[M1st3r_Ch0w]

If LFG isn't showing groups, create one and wait for people to join. If people don't join the group, well, that's not on the LFG system. It's that you're doing content that's not as popular.

If a dungeon is a daily achievement, you generally see groups listed. Outside of that, you're better off joining an active guild and pinging your guildmates to do a dungeon run. Other endgame types have their own separate dailies, which probably helps with public group availability.

A solution would be to put a dungeon as a daily achievement, every day.

[SeaDog]

Groups are a bit innocuous here. You don't need to be in a group to play group map content. You just go where the monster or event is and start wacking away like everyone else. Map content that is better in groups always show groups forming at specific times. Dungeons have been dead for a long, long time but you can still form a group in group finder and fill it up. Raids and Strikes are primarily done from Guilds. Find one that works for you. Fractals are also primarily from Guilds. Again, find one that works for you. Oh, and you can join several guilds at the same time so finding one that works for you is not all that difficult.

[Diabolical Taco]

OP isn't exactly wrong, however, with the influx of players I'm anticipating interest in the base game dungeons to spike. I'm curious to see if this happens as I never got a chance to clear some of them back in the day and I rarely see anyone in LFG trying to get a group together so it'd be nice to see renewed interest. Same goes for fractals which I'd like to get into, but never got around to it. Out of all the MMOs out there, GW2 is one of the few with a low barrier of entry, but I'd agree it'd be nice if they added a QoL for LFG to streamline it in the vein of FFXIV.

[Sychon]

Originally posted by Diabolical Taco:

OP isn't exactly wrong, however, with the influx of players I'm anticipating interest in the base game dungeons to spike. I'm curious to see if this happens as I never got a chance to clear some of them back in the day and I rarely see anyone in LFG trying to get a group together so it'd be nice to see renewed interest. Same goes for fractals which I'd like to get into, but never got around to it. Out of all the MMOs out there, GW2 is one of the few with a low barrier of entry, but I'd agree it'd be nice if they added a QoL for LFG to streamline it in the vein of FFXIV.

It seems like he has a point but not really. If you don't see a group for the content you want to do, you can create your own and wait for people to join.
Lack of interest is not the fault of the LFG tool. Lack of initiative and then complaining about the tool isn't either.

What the game needs is wider interest in the different content types. The LFG is there to facilitate grouping, not providing that interest.

[Drake]

It's not that there is no interest, it's that group go quickly. It's not like in other games where you need to wait 10 minutes for a healer or a tank in dungeons.
In GW2 you create a group and (very important) you state how you want to do the instance (chill or challenge), people come and in several minutes it's done. They don't stay in the list, so it's always empty.

I create groups in LFG all the time, even in dungeons, people come, a lot, it's just that if there is not demand in lfg they're just doing metas or guild play or working on their achievements and legendaries.

If anything the community is very helpful for grouping, you just need to initiate.

All event timers do a lot for the pacing, people just chase events one after another, so if no one is asking for help they just riding a map train.

[bikkuri]

I kinda know what you mean but if you open up a group people join really fast alsmost every time. Also join a guild. also join a discord. Sure, not optimal but this game is far from dead.

[elwen]

If you are in EU there is plenty of groups every day and if there are none people make them. In NA how ever people for some reason are scared of making groups and there for there are none.

Fact is this, the lfg tool we use is awsome. Because i can pick and choose exactly how i want my group to be. I can ask for specific roles and be very specific what i want my group to be.
New players can easy make their own groups too and let others know that they are knew and dont want speedruns they want to have a chill run and experience the content for first time. No speedrunners join those groups.
I tried all sorts of lfg-tools including those that many are used too, i still prefer to have control over my groups because sometimes i want to speedclear and sometimes i just want to chill and sometimes i want to run new players through content. I always have the choice.

[TheTool]

I never have a problem with the LFG. If there is no current grp, I just start one and it populates quickly. For anything.
I actually run a map event chain all the time because the info on it is vague on the web. I do it at all times of the day, on different days, but it fills in a few minutes. It helps that the chain has a random wait period to allow a few moments of downtime.
It's the Second Spear Nayrim quest in Desert Highlands PoF which is required to get one of the rune achievements to acquire the Griffon. It's a three part event chain, and only the last part is required for the Griffon achievement., but the map can evacuate early during the first part of the chain and it will not ever progress before map wipe.
I have my parts where I help many people with vague things.
I surely have been helped a many of times.....
Even yelling in the map chat will almost always bring other players to your aid. Vets get around quick and every bit of the content in this game is great. We don't mind helping do those quirky side quests that we haven't done in a few years.
LFG works fine and so does yelling the map.
Just takes a little patience. Don't expect your grp to fill in 5 seconds. Give it 5 min before you disband, it's will most likely fill.

[Lumiere]

The LFG and matchmaking system is really bad and outdated in this game.. But older dungeons are also really confusing and honestly they are just generally not very well made. Personally, if I was still playing this game, I wouldn't want to end up in one of those old dungeons through a modernised matchmaking system, simply because of how bad they are. Instanced content is not a strong point in GW2, the open world content is where it shines.

However I do recommend to the developers to overhaul old dungeons, fractals and the matchmaking system if they want the game to continue being relevant in the mmorpg genre. Perhaps take inspiration from FFXIV's system.