boring game

[사르포자]

Started playing the game and it was fun, questing and exploring till i reached lvl80. i decided to buy the expansions just to know that it would ruin my fun.

First the mastery i dont understand why do i have to feed exp into every single mastery when i have the points? and not be able to straight learn them. leading to HoT where u need to learn some specific masteries to continue the story and if dont have them u have to lvl up to unlock the one required, its so boring that you have to lvl up for each thing u wanna get, it killed the game for me and i got tired of the amount of times i need to lvl when i have the points and i would be able to just learn the mastery i want and continue my story but no i need to fill in some exp

second the events which is barely ppl even do, ive been trying to complete some meta which is those big events that happens on a specific map and in a specific time and it seems like there is not that many people doin them, we failed 3 times trying to complete a meta in HoT maps which is so disappointing that u spend so much time and not being able to complete them, where the game is build around those events its kinda sad seen less people interested in those.

Not a big fan on gating stuff behind mastery nor im a big fan of so much leveling systems, doin it for the first few times was fun but later on it just got boring and it bother me so much that i have the points but i need to fill in some exp, i just want to do my story without having the need to care about anything else, after im done with it i can do whatever i want as exploring, completion or doin events

[Turin]

You need to see the mysteries as a metrovania kind system. Filling it with XP is basically doing the open world content. It is basically in place of a leveling as a sink for gaining more XP. Otherwise what would there be to progress.

If you find filling up the masteries boring then it is the open world that you do not like and not the mastery. Which would be strange. It is the same event system as in the core game that you enjoyed just more refined and on a larger scale. What did you like in core that you do not like on HoT when it comes to events?
Also what else would you be doing in HoT if not for the mastery besides open world anyway when ti comes to progression? Plus the required masteries only take like a few hours to fill up.

As for the big meta events. These events are on a timer and a specific schedule. You need to search on the LFG at the specific time (a bit earlier actually) to find full maps. Trying to do big event on empty maps is not possible. The maps fill through LFG thus being at a random map chances are that there are not enough ppl around, unless you are lucky and the system throws you in a close to a full map. Use the LFG and check the event timers on the wiki.

[Daiska]

The good part is, masteries are account-wide, so you never need to do them again. I know it's a pain to need to wait for the proper amount of xp to continue the story, but it doesnt take too long. Think of it as being unable to master something until you put in some time.

As far as map metas go, it sounds like you've had the bad luck to be in unpopulated layers. They're popular events, and the best thing to do is look into the lfg panel, and find a squad doing the map you're on. When you join, you can "taxi" to their layer by right clicking the squad panel and join them in the map instance they're in. You can immediately leave once you're there, people do it all the time, or stay in the squad.

[사르포자]

Originally posted by Turin:

You need to see the mysteries as a metrovania kind system. Filling it with XP is basically doing the open world content. It is basically in place of a leveling as a sink for gaining more XP. Otherwise what would there be to progress.

If you find filling up the masteries boring then it is the open world that you do not like and not the mastery. Which would be strange. It is the same event system as in the core game that you enjoyed just more refined and on a larger scale. What did you like in core that you do not like on HoT when it comes to events?
Also what else would you be doing in HoT if not for the mastery besides open world anyway when ti comes to progression? Plus the required masteries only take like a few hours to fill up.

As for the big meta events. These events are on a timer and a specific schedule. You need to search on the LFG at the specific time (a bit earlier actually) to find full maps. Trying to do big event on empty maps is not possible. The maps fill through LFG thus being at a random map chances are that there are not enough ppl around, unless you are lucky and the system throws you in a close to a full map. Use the LFG and check the event timers on the wiki.

Cuz with core game i was lvling up normally and i didnt have extra mastery points to spend, it was i upgrade on each lvl ups, with HoT and even core game later on i gained a lot by doing living world but i saw that i cant use the point to learn masteries which is really dum imo that i have the points but i still have to sink in exp tho exp was meant to lvl up to gain a mastery point in the first place but now that i have the points i still have to fill in exp. the other thing is that i wanted to focus on story and then do the other stuff not that i didnt like the events or open world.

As of meta events i didnt know about LFG nor those new players that came into the game cuz im pretty sure the ones i was running with in the world were new as me

[사르포자]

Originally posted by Daiska:

The good part is, masteries are account-wide, so you never need to do them again. I know it's a pain to need to wait for the proper amount of xp to continue the story, but it doesnt take too long. Think of it as being unable to master something until you put in some time.

As far as map metas go, it sounds like you've had the bad luck to be in unpopulated layers. They're popular events, and the best thing to do is look into the lfg panel, and find a squad doing the map you're on. When you join, you can "taxi" to their layer by right clicking the squad panel and join them in the map instance they're in. You can immediately leave once you're there, people do it all the time, or stay in the squad.

Idk if ill be able to go through all the masteries, it already made me unmotivated just to see that i have to lvl up for each, as for lfg thanks for the insight, didnt know about it since the game doesnt tell u or it did but i didnt pay attention ill keep this in mind

[Densiz]

i feel your pain, game is not easy anymore. There will be mastery walls for story because you will need it later.

a tip for you: Get %10 perma xp buff from your guild hall (G > guild hall > find enchanchment from map and take xp buff.)
foods gives you %10 xp buff from kills.
utility gives you %10 xp buff from kills.

most xp comes from kills so total %30 extra xp and they all stack. You can buy cheap food + utility.

about meta events, you must be find full group from LFG and jump to their map.


mastery system is not a big deal. It is one time only content. I cant even understand how somebody can cry about it. All you have to do some pve for xp (meta events gives huge xp. ingame command is "/wiki et" just type and enter)

a tip for mastery : always learn first masteries.
a tip for pof mastery : you dnt need to max them if you are missing some masteries.

srry for my bad english.

[Smkng]

Originally posted by 사르포자:

Started playing the game and it was fun, questing and exploring till i reached lvl80. i decided to buy the expansions just to know that it would ruin my fun.

First the mastery i dont understand why do i have to feed exp into every single mastery when i have the points? and not be able to straight learn them. leading to HoT where u need to learn some specific masteries to continue the story and if dont have them u have to lvl up to unlock the one required, its so boring that you have to lvl up for each thing u wanna get, it killed the game for me and i got tired of the amount of times i need to lvl when i have the points and i would be able to just learn the mastery i want and continue my story but no i need to fill in some exp

second the events which is barely ppl even do, ive been trying to complete some meta which is those big events that happens on a specific map and in a specific time and it seems like there is not that many people doin them, we failed 3 times trying to complete a meta in HoT maps which is so disappointing that u spend so much time and not being able to complete them, where the game is build around those events its kinda sad seen less people interested in those.

Not a big fan on gating stuff behind mastery nor im a big fan of so much leveling systems, doin it for the first few times was fun but later on it just got boring and it bother me so much that i have the points but i need to fill in some exp, i just want to do my story without having the need to care about anything else, after im done with it i can do whatever i want as exploring, completion or doin events

You only NEED a few masteries to progress on the story:

- Glider Basics (Gliding Level 1)
- Updraft Use (Gliding Level 2)
- Bouncing Mushroom (Izel Lore Level 1)
- Exalted Markings (Exalted Lore Level 1)
- Nuhoch Hunting (Nuhoch Lore Level 1)

Not all players go for full mastery,, and you can get back to HoT maps to complete the masteries later whenver you aren't "bored". Also, I'm sorry to say, but this is how the mastery progression works and won't change because you didn't like it, there is now way around, if you want the extra masteries you need to level them up.

[kamikharzeeh]

at that point u can also just try out if u like spvp or Wvw (the multiplayer / pvp style modes). than u don't need to do the regular masteries :P

if u like the pvE endgame, then u need masteries, but then u will do tons of hours within pvE maps anyways and it shouldn't be hard to gather the XP for them

[Elazul]

Not to side track the discussion here, but as a new player that is fresh to 80 literally minutes ago what mastery tracks should I be doing first? It's very confusing.

[Ashrala]

Originally posted by Elazul:

Not to side track the discussion here, but as a new player that is fresh to 80 literally minutes ago what mastery tracks should I be doing first? It's very confusing.

If you're not planning on leaving the core game maps anytime soon, the one you probably would find most helpful is finishing up the "Pact Commander" as the last track for that, Advanced Logistics, will let you learn to auto loot, which takes a load off your mind.

v For a more complete list of what the rest of the masteries do.
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mastery#Mastery_points

[Viper]

That Nuhoch Hunting takes forever to progress. You have to kill 100s of mobs. Really holds up story progression.

[Sychon]

Originally posted by Densiz:

most xp comes from kills

I must have been playing the game wrong... Most of my XP has always come from events, story, adventures... anything but grinding mobs.

[ChiasaChan]

The game is not meant to be finished after 2 weeks, and it also is not meant to just hand everything to you without spending time. The masteries are earned by playing the game. If you don't like playing the game, it's not for you, if you do like to play it the masteries are coming by themselves.
But people today love to think of everything they don't get right away as being unjustly "hidden behind walls" :)

[Ashrala]

Originally posted by Sychon:

Originally posted by Densiz:

most xp comes from kills

I must have been playing the game wrong... Most of my XP has always come from events, story, adventures... anything but grinding mobs.

In all honesty, in my experience, when you just go from meta to meta (and others) working on the achievements for the mastery points themselves, you get so focused on getting the achievement done that by the time you've got a mastery point, the bar is pretty much full lol.....

[Ossie]

Originally posted by ChiasaChan Allkeyshop:

The game is not meant to be finished after 2 weeks, and it also is not meant to just hand everything to you without spending time. The masteries are earned by playing the game. If you don't like playing the game, it's not for you, if you do like to play it the masteries are coming by themselves.
But people today love to think of everything they don't get right away as being unjustly "hidden behind walls" :)

hi, which expac would you recommend getting ? since i can only get 1 which one is better? the one with 2 dlcs or the dragons one? thanks!

[BuradoShin]

Oh and also this:
Hearts give trash reward.
World bosses gives trash reward.
Dungeons gives trash reward beside dungeon token.
Enemy drops gives trash reward.
Skill progressions stops after lvl 30.
Some zones are completely empty no hearts at all and events no one doing them.
Dont need to grind for best armor since you can get orange gear cheap on trading post you are good to go.
You feel zero reward for doing things.