new player experience

[Obbi]

It's insane how many YouTubers are creating videos of how good this game is for new players.

But the fact is it is not at all.

When a new player hits level 80, mostly just stands with a blank face (what now?)

There is no guiding hand, there is no LFD (Queue for dungeons), World bosses (where and how?)

I had a few friends who never tried GW2, and who sadly quit. Way too complicated they said.

And I have to agree. just look at the PVP mount, how should a new player understand how to get it ?

fractal? How do they get started on that? you cant queue for it.

WvW. you get thrown into a world, and only 1-5% of it have players, and how should they know where it is?

PVP arena is the only thing in this game there are good for a new player. YOU CAN QUEUE FOR IT.

No queueing in 2022 is insane.

[be nice to me]

"No queueing in 2022 is insane"
Tell that to WoW classic players

[Obbi]

Originally posted by be nice to me:

"No queueing in 2022 is insane"
Tell that to WoW classic players

This most people are :P

The people screaming when they heard there wasn't a LFD in wrath was insane :)

[PacoXI]

The game does tell you how to obtain everything on your list. The game will also let you ignore mail and pop-ups that have the instructions you're looking for.

I guess how much you want the game to hold your hand varies from player to player.

[Obbi]

Originally posted by Alpha²:

The game does tell you how to obtain everything on your list. The game will also let you ignore mail and pop-ups that have the instructions you're looking for.

I guess how much you want the game to hold your hand varies from player to player.

What list are you talking about?

[MercAngel]

just look at the map there are event every where. also if you press Y you find a tab looking for group you can also type /wiki et in the chat box and get all the info on wolrd boss times and meta events

[Mugen141]

I did have this same experience when I hit max level. I was very confused as to what I should be doing. A lot of long time players will downplay it, but it is a real problem.

[MercAngel]

event timers
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Event_timers

[The Legendary Booty Warrior]

Just because a game isn't holding your hand through every little thing doesn't make it bad, it means you lack independence to just look it up. There is literally an entire wiki homie.

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Just google "gw2 wiki", then search whatever you want

[Bombardiro Crocodilo]

Originally posted by Obbi:

Originally posted by be nice to me:

"No queueing in 2022 is insane"
Tell that to WoW classic players

This most people are :P

The people screaming when they heard there wasn't a LFD in wrath was insane :)

Those are the people that demanded WoW to become the boring snoozefest it is today

[Obbi]

Originally posted by Legendary Booty Warrior:

Just because a game isn't holding your hand through every little thing doesn't make it bad, it means you lack independence to just look it up. There is literally an entire wiki homie.

Yeah its good game design you have to use most of your time on a Wiki ;D

[Darkrayne]

It is confusing. There's a million currencies and a million items and items that you collect to turn into other items and things you collect to exchange for other items and a ton of events you need to be aware of that happen at certain time. Nothing ingame helps people understand it all and it's getting more and more bloated as time goes on.

Sadly, it's one of those games where you NEED to use the wiki and community made tools if you're playing long term. Some people don't like that. It is what it is at this point.

All I can say for new people is just don't let it overwhelm you all at once, take one thing at a time to focus on and use the Story Journal in the Hero Panel as your main guide.

[Greyfire]

I take it you haven't played Warframe...

I love how people are bashing the new player experience but never once consider that there are millions of veteran players who started playing this game before the new player experience was even a thing and we all got through it just fine and are still playing today.

There is a simple solution - play the game. You don't learn anything by not doing it. Every game has a learning curve, and if you arent willing to learn then apparently gaming in general just isn't for you.

I have played this game since beta without a single friend, and it is certainly on the most distant opposite side of the spectrum from the games I've played that have steep learning curves. I'd even go as far as to say GW2 might be the easiest of the average difficulty games I've played.

[Garn]

conveniently in gw2 it has something called "World Boss Portal Device". it's allow you to check which boss would respawn and can be purchase by in-game shop for 400 gems. see, money can fix your problem easily, why would they tell you directly when they can charge you for it?

[Xylion]

Originally posted by Obbi:

Originally posted by Alpha²:

The game does tell you how to obtain everything on your list. The game will also let you ignore mail and pop-ups that have the instructions you're looking for.

I guess how much you want the game to hold your hand varies from player to player.

What list are you talking about?

The popups while you level are very subtle to the point where players ignore what's written and just take the reward they get attached to the popup.
For instance a few days ago there was this player who complained about the lvl 10 story being bugged, as he was unable to hit the drakes inside the water since his skills were all just melee. After a few users on here let him know that he should equip an underwater weapon and fight the enemies inside the water, he complained that he was not told by the game about this, which was, once again, wrong. When a player reaches lvl 8, they get presented with an underwater weapon and helmet as well as the text saying "Underwater Combat" with the questionmark icon near it, which, by pressing it, elaborates the text even further.
Most of the content ingame is being explained to the players one way or another, but more often than not, players close those windows and popup text too fast and delete every mail they get in their mailbox without reading it.
The game could make things more obvious, but truth be told, all of the info needed is being provided to the players.