Beware before considering buying this game. *(NOT bait/troll thread)*

[phosTR]

I can't deny that i had a lot of fun with this game and i bought gems (currency that you can buy with REAL MONEY and with GOLD you make in-game) with real money and i don't regret it. The world is beautiful, the world map is MASSIVE and you have an amazing soundtrack to go along with the fun and interesting exploration and the fast paced combat.

BUT...

The game has these issues and you should know:

1) It runs with DirectX 9 and the engine doesn't make use of CPUs with multiple cores. That means poor performance even with good hardware.

2) The "free to play" version is very limited and if you want to experience ALL the content in the game, you gonna need to buy the Expansion and the Living Story chapters. You will also need to buy more BAG SLOTS to have a bigger inventory after some time and SLOTS for your personal chest/bank. YES, you can use GOLD you make in-game to buy GEMS, and with the GEMS you will be able to buy the Living Story chapters and the SLOTS but i will say why buying GEMS with GOLD is bad.

3) GOLD. Ok, so, GOLD in this game is RIDICULOUSLY HARD to make. First off all, it will take an eternity to get enough GOLD and MATERIALS to buy or craft the stuff you want by farming or playing the game in a casual style. Like, you can't just farm mobs in the world and expect them to drop crafting materials so you can craft gear. The drop/loot from the mobs are 99% JUNK that sells for nothing and 1% a LOW TIER crafting material. Farming monsters is not viable, AT ALL. You can only make gold in this game by doing WORLD EVENTS/BOSSES that usually give raw gold as reward and doing DUNGEONS, FRACTALS (which can be called as some type of HARDER dungeons) and the new RAIDS (which require 10+ people, a TON of organization, experienced players and good gear too) or by playing the MARKET/AUCTION HOUSE.

Except, last i checked, DUNGEONS were dead in the water because of bugs and the devs not caring about them. FRACTALS are RIDICULOUSLY hard and annoying to farm and RAIDS are the worse. You need some GODLY team with experienced players, good gear, everyone buffed and using voice chat for coordination. And they have TIME-GATED ♥♥♥♥ in it too.

4) The level of grinding in this game is something that can make any korean MMORPG blush. You need SO MUCH crafting materials and gold to craft the good items/gear that you what will happen is simple. You gonna just grind the GOLD to buy the weapon from the AH directly. Which kills the fun of crafting. Hell, the "LEGENDARY" weapons (lmao, what a joke) can be bought from the Trading Post/Auction House which defeats the purpose of YOU, the player, creating a character to travel this world and fight and explore all that exists in that world. The devs added some new ways to grind for a legendary weapon but it is still a GIGANTIC grind and with something very annoying: TIME-GATED materials. Yep, you wanna craft that piece of gear so you can make your character stronger or because you want the look ASAP? Too bad, a LOT of materials are TIME-GATED, you craft one time in the day, then you need to wait till next day to be able to craft again. No joking, it can take MONTHS to be able to get all the gear you want.

5) This game is often called Fashion Wars 2 for a reason. You have HORIZONTAL PROGRESSION instead of VERTICAL PROGRESSION (which is not 100% true, i will talk about this next). You will grind for GOLD to buy DYES and to buy a piece of gear to get the SKIN/LOOK for your character. And be advised, the best looking skins of the game are the ones from the STORE (bought with the currency called GEM that can be acquired with in-game GOLD or REAL MONEY) and the good looking skins from the stuff in the Trading Post / Auction House are SUPER EXPENSIVE. 98% of the gear skins are rotted wood, some animal skull or some dead animal carcass, which sucks if you want your character to look good without becoming poor in-game.

6) People who say that you only need EXOTIC gear to be able to do the hard content of the game are LYING. If you don't go with full ASCENDED GEAR (gear that is crafted with TIME-GATED materials and it is more powerful/stronger than ascended) you gonna take way more time to finish the content and the chances of being KICKED from the group is HIGH.

7) This game tried to remove the TRINITY (DPS+TANK+HEALER) and it failed miserably. They added some new skills for some classes that can make some of them act like HEALERS, but it is far from working right/great in comparision to others MMOs like FFARR and WoW. Pretty much people used to go with gear with FULL DPS/OFFENSE for dungeons and fractals, but this changed a bit with the RAIDS.

8) This game has a TON of different currencies and they are all HARD to get, just like GOLD. The conversion rate from GOLD to GEMS is terrible, so, if you don't wanna pay with REAL MONEY to acquire GEMS, good luck farming for hours and hours and "playing" flipping the market/AH.

9) Being able to farm the rewarding content of the game, will require that you have a very STRONG and EXPERIENCED group, otherwise you can forget about making enough gold to buy that 500-600g weapon from the TP/AH.

10) The Guild Wars part of the game, which is called World vs World (massive PvP) is, i mean WAS, super fun but it is dead in the water too. You still have some action but it is nowhere NEAR what once was and it was insanely fun to raid and destroy forts and see those LARGE SCALE fight with tons of players.

(11) The story is mediocre at best with some devs self-inserting as characters + SJW agendas being put in the game.


The PvP is fair because you don't need to buy gear or runes/sigils and you don't lose anything if you die + you can get some nice rewards from PvP that can be used in PvE and this game has PvP and PvE separated which is great.
Another good thing are the mounts. They are very well done and the flying in this game is one of the best out there, but like always, to get a mount, the grind is atrocious.

[LoliNoxTan]

Originally posted by WetNose:

The OP is right on most things. Now take the bank and bag slots. When you first start playing it looks generous, but this is where A-net are clever, they will dump stuff on you like there is no tomorrow and those bags will be full before you know it and we haven't even started on your crafting mats. Your going to need a load of space for those too.
So get your wallet out, time to buy gems. Before you know it you will have bought the game 10 times over. :D

I must have spent over a £100 on gems before I put the brakes on, and I'm still short on space and have very little to show for it.

It took me 4 years before I bought Bag Slots or Bank upgrades. You have access to multiple characters & personal guilds before you need to go anywhere near Bag/Bank expansions

I just bought them (when on sale) for ♥♥♥♥♥ & giggles

[LeftPaw]

At least I have loads of transmute points that I have built up over the years, so I don't have to buy those.
Also I have hundreds of black lion chest in my bank but only one key. :D I did have 2 keys but I opened one and threw away the contents.

Every problem GW2 has is because it's built around a system to make you buy gems. They don't upgrade it to make the game play better, they upgrade in a way to cleverly edge you towards the gem store.

[Tiberius]

So weird complaining abt bag slots when salvage tool is readily available and you can deposit mats from anywhere on the map.

I can see why ppl complain abt the tedious process of cleaning up the loot: open bags > salvage > deposit. But the bag slots? Sounds to me you're just a lazy fcker

[LoliNoxTan]

Originally posted by WetNose:

At least I have loads of transmute points that I have built up over the years, so I don't have to buy those.
Also I have hundreds of black lion chest in my bank but only one key. :D I did have 2 keys but I opened one and threw away the contents.

Every problem GW2 has is because it's built around a system to make you buy gems. They don't upgrade it to make the game play better, they upgrade in a way to cleverly edge you towards the gem store.

Are you saying you've only ever had 2 keys? You get them from certain personal story steps, certain Living World episodes/Expac chapters, Map Completion & some PvP/WvW Reward Tracks.

Transmutation charges are so easy to come by that NO ONE recommends to use the Gemstore for them.

The only recommended Gemstore stuff Copper Salvage Tool & the Candycorn Gobbler (Maybe the Snowflake Gobbler)
Both can be easily got through gold exchange

[jP]

Goodbye 220+ping (despite a fiber optic connection). Goodbye bots in ranked pvp. Hello local servers and regular pvp sandbox tweaks and patches.

[phosTR]

this discussion needs to continue

[Angoril]

Originally posted by phosTR:

this discussion needs to continue

What's left to be said? Other than them working on fully implementing DX11, the rest remain as they were. Nothing much happened this year in the game, not anything worth mentioning at least.

[TheTool]

Originally posted by Angoril:

Originally posted by phosTR:

this discussion needs to continue

What's left to be said? Other than them working on fully implementing DX11, the rest remain as they were. Nothing much happened this year in the game, not anything worth mentioning at least.

Agreed. Negated necro bump.

[Tiberius]

op doesnt get the attention he wants lel

[FandangoChristmas]

Pretty stale review, I don't agree on most of it. But this game has to be one of the best modern Mmorpg of the past 10 years! Played it in beta a few times, and for years after. Compared to a newer Mmo I have seen (NW), it blows it out of the water, no contest.

[CyberDown]

Its amazing how much bad information on this game is here on this forum.

[Dr. Sinister]

Originally posted by CyberDown:

Its amazing how much bad information on this game is here on this forum.

It's Steam. Do you actually expect better from this platform?

[Angoril]

Originally posted by Dr. Sinister:

Originally posted by CyberDown:

Its amazing how much bad information on this game is here on this forum.

It's Steam. Do you actually expect better from this platform?

You keep hating on Steam while being no better than those you claim to act oh so wrongly. Why do you still use it instead of deleting your account?

[LoliNoxTan]

Originally posted by Angoril:

Originally posted by Dr. Sinister:

It's Steam. Do you actually expect better from this platform?

You keep hating on Steam while being no better than those you claim to act oh so wrongly. Why do you still use it instead of deleting your account?

Can you honestly say that Steam isn't fully of whiny babies who throw their toys out of the pram at the slightest thing?

Not saying EVERYONE is like that but a vast majority are.. Hell, most continue to buy games directly instead of going to Humble/GMG/Fanatical or even bloody Voidu (& yes, all those are official retailers)

[TheTool]

Gankers' paradise.