A fair warning for "new players" in 2020

[W.A. the Anum]

Yes, it is true that you get the BASE game for free but you literally have to either put a lot hours into the game to actually enjoy it OR/AND have to buy (all) DLCs to really "play" it to its full potential.

I know it coz i played it already as it came out and as it was "pay to play".
Im srs here, my brother is still a great fan of the game - or was - till they not only changed a lot in the game, they pretty much force you to get the dlcs coz they also have a "slight" pay to win factor in it.

As sample:
In the first DLC, youre able to use gliders which normal people are not able to use. As for the story and map, you get some new maps which make use of said gliders - BUT (and this is the problem) You can use said Gliders also in PvP areas like the World Vs World one, making it possible to skip stuff and areas with gliders which f2p people cant use - so they have mostly walk around the longer way.
Another sample (i duno if im 100% correct on THIS one since i gave up playing shortly after the first DLC came out so i can only tell what my brother told me) is that with another DLC, people got mounts, making it easier and faster to travel - and guess what, yes, you can use the mounts in PvP too...

Another thing is that F2Ps are -not- able to unlock "subclasses". Yep, you will be VERY limited on the classes your character will have.

I dont wanna say "dont go try it" but than, i duno why Guild Wars 2 comes out -NOW- after the "good time" of it is already over. Im srs here. I knew a lot people which played Guild Wars 2 and stopped it the more DLCs it got. It went from a great game to a dumbster on fire in the last years.

I mean, if my brother, a player which put literally thousends of hours into it for sure, and i, someone who also played and put at least 300-500 hours into it, tells you that it is WAY TO LATE to join the game now, believe me here. Im sure they are other players which would tell you the same. If you think this would be a nice F2P, avoid it. you will be pretty much marked everywhere that youre "just a F2p" if you dont "get gud", dont get ALL the DLCs and put more than thousends of hours into the game.

EDIT: if that is confussing you, read here a bit more.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1284210/discussions/0/2917724477539248208/?ctp=3#c2946998508787786064

[ProChaser [Linux]]

I'm not sure why people write "warnings" of F2P content which is offering a lot of content to new players. New players have way too much to play through before they even need to consider thinking of maxing out all content the complete game has to offer.

It is a way to discover if such game is for you or not. Yes, if you enjoy the game, as many many others do, you pay a small one-time fee and you get even deeper into the games content.

To be clear, I see the point in trying to clarify what the F2P editions offer or not, but we all play games differently. The F2P edition offers more than enough valuable AAA content for players to make their own minds around "is it worth to buy" (later on) IMHO.

[W.A. the Anum]

Originally posted by ProChaser Linux:

I'm not sure why people write "warnings" of F2P content which is offering a lot of content to new players. New players have way too much to play through, before they even need to consider thinking of maxing out all content the complete game has to offer.

It is a way to discover if such game content is for for you and yes, if you enjoy the game as many many others do you pay once and get even deeper into it. I see the point in trying to clarify what the F2P editions offers or not, but we are all different in games we like and the F2P editions is more than valuable AAA title content to make your own opinion IMHO. :csgoanarchist:

Easy:
A F2P can literally forget that PvP or WvW exists coz they will get their ass beaten.

I dont disagree that GW2 offers a lot as it is but you WILL feel the limits EVERYWHERE as F2P. literally and you dont need to deny it. I saw it back in the day as they changed it into the f2p model. It all went downhill shortly after the release of the first dlc.

next to this they is already to much broken in the f2p vanilla game like the farming and heavy grinding system or job system, the dungeon system and the fetch rewards and the list goes on.

Srs to say im sure they are other and better f2p opinions out there than Gw2, which comes now only out to milk the new players anyway. Srs, there is no reason why it comes out now - 8 years TO late.

and AAA content? If they really wanna go for such stuff tehy should go and play PSO2 which is also F2P and NO DLCS you need to pay for to enjoy the FULL.GAME. Sure it also has some limits but unlike in GW2, those limits are not pay 2 win nor major. Im not making advetising for it, just using a sample here.

[Joker]

MMORPG's are suppose to bring new features to a game with expansions. That's how MMORPG's work.
Even in MMORPG's you have payed for you will also need to buy expansions to get new features.
Most F2P games have similar restrictions.
I don't personally play WvW, so i'm not sure if it's in-game yet, but they have said that they will bring a mount rental for WvW for F2P players, so they will be able to use mounts.

[W.A. the Anum]

Originally posted by Joker:

MMORPG's are suppose to bring new features to a game with expansions. That's how MMORPG's work.
Even in MMORPG's you have payed for you will also need to buy expansions to get new features.
Most F2P games have similar restrictions.
I don't personally play WvW, so i'm not sure if it's in-game yet, but they have said that they will bring a mount rental for WvW for F2P players, so they will be able to use mounts.

yea, but most expansions are still either free and be "in the game" added and doesnt hide a small thing which could be called "pay to win". Again, Gliders and mounts make the life in WvW really easier AND most importantly faster. You literally can outrun any F2P mob and doesnt care about them.

Srs to say, WvW, if youre F2P, not a good opinion.

[Joker]

Originally posted by W.A. the Anum:

Originally posted by Joker:

MMORPG's are suppose to bring new features to a game with expansions. That's how MMORPG's work.
Even in MMORPG's you have payed for you will also need to buy expansions to get new features.
Most F2P games have similar restrictions.
I don't personally play WvW, so i'm not sure if it's in-game yet, but they have said that they will bring a mount rental for WvW for F2P players, so they will be able to use mounts.

yea, but most expansions are still either free and be "in the game" added and doesnt hide a small thing which could be called "pay to win". Again, Gliders and mounts make the life in WvW really easier AND most importantly faster. You literally can outrun any F2P mob and doesnt care about them.

Srs to say, WvW, if youre F2P, not a good opinion.

Gliders are hardly P2W, and there are plenty of core builds that are competitive for PVP and WvW.
If anything gliders are a slight advantage
But if that's how you look at it, just consider GW2 F2P a very long and big demo.

[W.A. the Anum]

Originally posted by Joker:

Gliders are hardly P2W,

Originally posted by Joker:

If anything gliders are a slight advantage

okey well than. that spoke for itself lols.

[Joker]

Originally posted by W.A. the Anum:

Originally posted by Joker:

Gliders are hardly P2W,

Originally posted by Joker:

If anything gliders are a slight advantage

okey well than. that spoke for itself lols.

I will remember to blame OP gliders next time I get my ass kicked in WvW instead of lag.

[W.A. the Anum]

Originally posted by Joker:

Originally posted by W.A. the Anum:

okey well than. that spoke for itself lols.

I will remember to blame OP gliders next time I get my ass kicked in WvW instead of lag.

Sorry there but srsly, you pretty much shot yourself there mate X´D

[Joker]

Originally posted by W.A. the Anum:

Originally posted by Joker:

I will remember to blame OP gliders next time I get my ass kicked in WvW instead of lag.

Sorry there but srsly, you pretty much shot yourself there mate X´D

Gliding is possible only in territories controlled by one's own world.
And if you're concerned about people escapting you, equip your range weapon and shoot them out of the sky, and they will take heavy fall damage.
People won't win over you because of gliders. They will win over you because they are better than you or because they are more than you :P
The advantage is more for getting around quicker from a high distance (and even that's very situational) and not related to PvP combat, since it's very easy to take advantage of.

[W.A. the Anum]

Originally posted by Joker:

The advantage is more for getting around quicker from a high distance (and even that's very situational) and not related to PvP combat, since it's very easy to take advantage of.

Ok sorry but again, you shot yourself.
I mean i was like "ok i agree with y-" aaand than came that line.

Srsly, everything you get in a dlc is a advantage, NO.MATTER.WHAT.
Glider, mountes and like. they ALL make you faster. Sure if enemys are close by you should not really go for it and use them (would be stupid to do anyways) but TRAVELING AROUND said PVP/WVW areas makes it a WHOLE lot easier and faster which is the reason why its a P2w in this modes. without it you pretty much can forget touching those and we are just talking about the gliders and mounts, we shouldnt forget the OP subclass builds you can only get viva dlcs mate...

SO again, nothing personal but if youre again about to say "this is just a SmAlL aDvAnTaGe" you know its pay 2 win man, thats literally the MEANING of Pay 2 win if you get (even the smallest amount of) an aDvAnTaGe over OTHER players which dont have said stuff - even if you can just glide from one cliff to another sometimes - F2P people HAVE to walk around it, giving the ones with gliders THE time to build catapults and ready up their forts.

[Alfonse]

It's a convenience tool, not an advantage. It doesn't make you fight better in combat, we got around fine without them for years before we had them and, particularly when it comes to gliding, it's very fairly restricted.

Also to be clear, you can only use them in WvW, not actual PvP.

Even in respect of the elite specialisations, most base classes are still very viable in WvW (and are very common in PvP).

I at least strongly disagree with the idea that it would be too late to start at this point given that gearing in the game is a flat, level playing field and it's very cheap to buy/craft exotic gear which is only beaten by 5% by ascended gear (the best gear in the game, which can drop for free or is otherwise not overly expensive).

[Tiberius]

right.... blackgate is the top na server, because they use mount and gliders

[Der Donald]

what did you expect from f2p version,genius?

[W.A. the Anum]

Originally posted by Voice in The Void:

what did you expect from f2p version,genius?

that people come by to a thread and leave constructive comments, read the thread, learning something maybe, dont just swoop by and think they are tuff ♥♥♥♥♥ by leaving a sarcastic word at the end of their comment but oh well, you cant have anything~

[Caz]

My issue with the features added by the expansion is that there is no basic form of that for people without the expansions. A basic glider that's really bad, but lets the player get a taste of what it's like. A simple horse that lets you move faster, but has no other special abilities.

Seems like a common sense thing to add. It's a common strategy in marketing/business. Tease the customer with a tiny taste, they're more likely to buy your upgraded product(s).