Revolutionary Propaganda

[Bloody Five]

This game perpetuates the myth of the French Revolution being the revolt of "the people" against a tyrant king. The truth is that the French revolution was organized a cabal of very powerful people hellbent on destroying France, the monarchy and the Christian faith.

The people were the first to suffer the consequences with the destruction of corporations who were very proective of workers and the Revolutionary Wars who led to the loss of millions of French lives. And if you want to learn about the first modern genocide, look up the history of the Vendee uprising and how it was crushed.

The developers think they are edgy, cool and on the side of "the people".
in truth, they are still peddling lies, misinformation and a false version of history.

And if you think that the media you consume, does not influence your perception of the world or your political beliefs, I suggest you educate yourself on the subject.

[PortalShifter]

Messaggio originale di Bloody Five:

Messaggio originale di PortalShifter:

I'm glad they succeeded. Unfortunately, the Christian faith still exists.

Spoken like someone who does not understand that when Christian faith disappears, human sacrifices resume. Go read some René Girard. Or just look around you.

Human sacrifice. Is that like when Christians drink the blood and eat the flesh of Jesus every Sunday?

[LucisFero ⸸]

'NOW THAT'S EDGY AS ♥♥♥♥!'

[TurboTired]

History is written by the victors.
I know seeing blissful ignorance is infuriating, OP, but you gotta try to just laugh it off in clown world.
We are all going to die one day, anyway.
At least you know where you're going.

[Shadow]

I don't think they are side any other than them self to make money by making games and this game has nothing to do on real history

[[TAG]Alblaka]

It's fine to voice an oppinion disputing what is accepted common knowledge, but you better provide some actual evidence to disprove established history, otherwise you'll just come across as a conspiratory lunatic / troll.

[Slightlyoff]

You beat me to it. I was gonna make a thread saying "Would have been interested if the game didn't make me fight to make the french revolution happen. I.e. making fight to help genocidal socialists." Yeah, I'll pass on that.

[rob.dee]

As a christian , games which idolize the french revolution are not for me , persecution of religion (any religion) is not something that should happen in a free society imo. But hey thats just me i wouldnt presume to tell anyone else what games they should enjoy or views they should hold.

[Dirk Diggler]

Франция это масонская страна, поэтому они никогда не признают, что революция была ошибкой.
Если бы не было революции, то сейчас бы Франция была страной номер один в мире, а в США бы говорили по французски

[Slightlyoff]

Messaggio originale di TAGAlblaka:

It's fine to voice an oppinion disputing what is accepted common knowledge, but you better provide some actual evidence to disprove established history, otherwise you'll just come across as a conspiratory lunatic / troll.

What do you mean? The common knowledge about the French Revolution is that it absolutely was exactly what this guy said. Anyone in the know about history knows the French Revolution was awful for the people of France. I'll give you one example. You're a counter-revolutionary in the city of Nantes. You and the majority of your fellow residents of Nantes are all counter-revolutionaries. The revolutionary in charge of your city is Jean-Baptiste Carrier. You are not lucky. Carriers revolutonary men kidnap you and your family/friends, strip you all naked and put you on a boat that is designed to be sunk. Carrier then watches from the river as the boat your on floats along on the Loire river before sinking and drowning you and your friends/family.

Yeah, that's a thing that was done by a French revolutionary general named Jean-Baptiste Carrier. He not only executed 2000-9000 civilians in under three months, he came up with this sadistic way to do it for his own entertainment because guillotine wasn't entertaining or sadistic enough.

I mean as if that example wasn't good enough, they literally call the reign of Robespierre "The Reign of Terror"...that's literally the name of it in the encyclopedia brittanica...I'm sorry you're ignorant of history but the OP wasn't making up a conspiracy you dumb mother ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Kaezeribato]

Messaggio originale di KrZ:

Messaggio originale di Bloody Five:

wage war against all europe which led to the bloodshed of Napoleonic War

A despotic and belligerent man, Napoleon, started those wars. This reminds me of somebody in current world affairs...

You mean that when other country declared war to France it was Napoleon that declared these war? What a nice way to rewrite history...

[Maxagaze]

I never cared for Christianity, I never liked monarchy, and I am here for the game.

[Kaezeribato]

Messaggio originale di Kung FLU RUSSEL:

Messaggio originale di RhinoBarbarian:

You are ranting and raving about people being indoctrinated by a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ video game! You are just like those idiots who say video games cause gun violence.

I'd stop feeding "them" at this point. Both accounts are level 0 so they're more than likely sock puppets. He doesn't wanna risk his real account lol

If you put your account in private it show as level 0, and anyone who don't want kid to stalk them put their account in private.

Messaggio originale di Bowsette Gone Bananas:

My counterpoint:

The French revolution overthrew a monarchy. There are no good monarchies.

So you're saying that the golden age of France that was during monarchy were worst that today where people can't even buy the food they want and don't know if they will be able to pass the winter with a heater because of the lack of energy? Or that people are happier since the start of 1900 than they were during the peacefull time of the middle age?

Europa was ruled by monarchy from the fall of the Roman Empire to the renaissance, you're going to say that all the people lived opressed by tyran for a thousand year and no one tryed to revolt?

Could it be that your are biased after eating too much republican propaganda and that monarchy in itself can't be "bad"?

[TōshiR0]

Messaggio originale di Slightlyoff:

Messaggio originale di TAGAlblaka:

It's fine to voice an oppinion disputing what is accepted common knowledge, but you better provide some actual evidence to disprove established history, otherwise you'll just come across as a conspiratory lunatic / troll.

What do you mean? The common knowledge about the French Revolution is that it absolutely was exactly what this guy said. Anyone in the know about history knows the French Revolution was awful for the people of France. I'll give you one example. You're a counter-revolutionary in the city of Nantes. You and the majority of your fellow residents of Nantes are all counter-revolutionaries. The revolutionary in charge of your city is Jean-Baptiste Carrier. You are not lucky. Carriers revolutonary men kidnap you and your family/friends, strip you all naked and put you on a boat that is designed to be sunk. Carrier then watches from the river as the boat your on floats along on the Loire river before sinking and drowning you and your friends/family.

Yeah, that's a thing that was done by a French revolutionary general named Jean-Baptiste Carrier. He not only executed 2000-9000 civilians in under three months, he came up with this sadistic way to do it for his own entertainment because guillotine wasn't entertaining or sadistic enough.

I mean as if that example wasn't good enough, they literally call the reign of Robespierre "The Reign of Terror"...that's literally the name of it in the encyclopedia brittanica...I'm sorry you're ignorant of history but the OP wasn't making up a conspiracy you dumb mother ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Pay attention to this lad here, folks. Also, it's NOT ABOUT THE DAMN GAME AND ITS STORY. It's about how those that maintain the lies use mass media to tell always the same story and mock the designated enemies. You can see this in every modern fiction... The point is you will never see a game for example about the counter-revolution and defending it.

[Lady Dormouse]

So, OP, you can, what, suspend disbelief in the game with it's automatons or whatever, but the game not adhering to your personal views or whatever as the Revolution is depicted in the game is a bridge too far for you? You didn't realize that this is an alternate universe? The automatons weren't enough of a hint for you?

I'm embarrassed for you.

[Nothing and Nowhere Bear]

Honestly, the moment anyone tells me to "Educate myself" about literally anything, I generally feel the rampant urge to tell them to take a long hike off a short pier, and to text me once they hit the water.

Here's a fun fact for you: Mass media, everything from movies to video games, will tell you that Native Americans were innocent creatures who were perfectly at peace with nature, and that the white devil came in and ruined that by over hunting everything, introducing the natives to alcohol, killing them with foreign diseases, and just generally destroying their incredibly peaceful and virtuous way of life.

If you can't tell by how this is going, that couldn't be further from the truth if you tried.

But here's what I'm not going to do to you, okay? I'm not going to condescendingly tell you that the developers of "This Land is My Land" are a bunch of liars and misinformers, and I'm not going to turn to you, point at you, and say "THE DEVS SUCK. You're being lied to! EDUCATE YOURSELF!"

Have you maybe considered that the developers just wanted to tell a story that sounds something like "Okay, what if, in France back in the Victoria era or whatever, there were robots that some guy made that run off of something? What if we made a game about one of those robots fighting other robots, and the backdrop is the French Revolution?"

I haven't even finished this game and I love the premise, because it's just a different take on Steampunk, and that's neat. You're thinking way too damn hard about this man.