Feminist Frequency? Digital Devolver just burned our money.

[Balberoy GER]

Really? I love your game and playing it and you donate to those man hating people?
Please use the money and our hopes to produce good games!

Never ever give to those that:
1. Don't play your games
2. Will never play your games
3. Hate all men
4. Are grifters that don't pay their staff
5. Basicly steal money and lie to get your money

Please educate yourself whome you give money in the future. I never buy games from EA. And this is your first strike. You have 2, but 3 at most and you will be expunged from my list of companies I buy games from.

[lPaladinl]

egg corn lähetti viestin:

lPaladinl lähetti viestin:

Liberals, Democrats and SJWs?

ok Gamer

Okay, person on a Gaming Forum, using Gamer as if it's an insult, and unable to form a single coherent argument for multiple pages in a thread.

[saber]

this thread is full of laughs

[My Name is Mud]

I got as far in this thread as the guy with a pepe the frog avatar saying "it's been very well discussed on youtube" and I had to stop reading before my entire brain turned to mayonaise

Never change, steam forums, never change

[lPaladinl]

Death From Above lähetti viestin:

I got as far in this thread as the guy with a pepe the frog avatar saying "it's been very well discussed on youtube" and I had to stop reading before my entire brain turned to mayonaise

Never change, steam forums, never change

I am sorry that you suffer from an allergy to facts and doing your own research. Maybe one day you'll see through the brainwashing propaganda.

[SquareCircle]

SanguineSage lähetti viestin:

looking at how this publisher behaves and it is not surprising they are in on the evil ♥♥♥♥ going on, then add in the fact the developers choice of adding the anime stile artwork stuff and the nonwhtie character crap, another company to watch as they collapse. thanks for the heads up. sadly not surprising and good riddance.

developers are non white themselves

[HarspudSauce]

Acronen lähetti viestin:

The quicker you learn that you don't count or matter (none of us do), the happier you will be. Or at the very least, you will be far less frustrated.

Your hobby is going to be fine. It won't be destroyed. It's expanded far more now than it ever was, and will continue to be a growing and expanding industry where you will be able to find just about any type of game, catering to many different types of players. Don't buy into that nonsense, it's pure outrage merchant BS sold to you for youtube views, or twitter retweets, as most stuff is these days.

Anita Sarkesian doesn't have the power to destroy the things you love, just like those with hateboners for her won't destroy her.

Gina Carrano is going to be fine. She is still going to be an MMA fighter turned actress that will continue to act. She was fired from one show, that ultimately has no tangible effect on your life at all. It's not as big as it feels, or the talking heads and outrage merchants sell it as. Don't worry so much about it.

Shut out the social media whirlwind of outrage, and equally outrageous overreaction and just enjoy your hobby. Find games for you. If you enjoy them, it's fine.

Back when I was growing up when I didn't like something about a game I was told to:

1. Git Gud.

2. Play something else.

3. Make my own.

This is a far cry from the response a certain outspoken group of people get who--when a game doesn't cater to them--wield political power like a bludgeon. They use power words like "misogyny", "racist" and "???-phobe" and it seems like almost everyone is too afraid to call them out as a vocal minority banging pots and pans.

Not every game needs to cater to everyone. Playing Dragon's Crown isn't a chauvinist proclamation but there are people who are acting in bad faith that claim otherwise. And the words from these bad actors carry influence within the industry.

This isn't something to just unplug from and ignore. It's gotten beyond that.

And while it's fine and dandy to shut out social media to protect yourself from the outrage, game companies often can't and as a result end up catering to the outrage mob, lest they be brigaded and cancelled.

Super edit that has nothing to do with Loop Hero but I want to rant and I think it's relevant:

There's a game called Rune Factory. It's on its 5th iteration. It used to be titled "Rune Factory: A Fantasy Harvest Moon." Harvest Moon games would give you a score after a couple years and this score would depend on certain criteria. Healthy Cows? Check. Healthy Crops? Check. Money in the bank? Double Check! Friends with town folk? Checks all around! Married with children? Uh oh. This creates heterosexual norms. This is now somehow a problem. People on forums are complaining about this.

A farming game with the sole purpose of creating a farm, having livestock, getting married and having a baby (aka traditional values) is somehow now problematic.

The idea that there's push-back on this is ridiculous:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/258613-rune-factory-5/79275500

But if I say gay marriage doesn't make sense in this kind of setting not only do I get told to play something else, adapt, or make my own (again) but now I'm somehow part of the problem as if I'm some sort of bigot.

[Kitsune Dzelda]

I personally think this thread should have been put to rest long ago.

[Urfarah]

So, should we compile a list of things Anita Sarkeesian has now permanently ruined?

1) GamerGate;
2) Video Games in general;
3) Feminism;
4) The Patriarchy;
5) Boners;
6) Logic;
7) Facts;
8) Western Civilization;
9) Her workers' lives;
10) Traditional Values;
11) The Last of Us II;
12) Devolver Digital;
13) Loop Hero;

Am I missing anything? I think soon we'll be changing the calendar timeframe reference to B.A. (Before Anita) and A.A. (After Anita) at the behest of our new overlord.

[Sepdick]

Lol, this is almost as dumb as giving money to some rich arabian prince who emailed you for help.

[Jean]

Urfarah lähetti viestin:

So, should we compile a list of things Anita Sarkeesian has now permanently ruined?

1) GamerGate;
2) Video Games in general;
3) Feminism;
4) The Patriarchy;
5) Boners;
6) Logic;
7) Facts;
8) Western Civilization;
9) Her workers' lives;
10) Traditional Values;
11) The Last of Us II;
12) Devolver Digital;
13) Loop Hero;

Am I missing anything? I think soon we'll be changing the calendar timeframe reference to B.A. (Before Anita) and A.A. (After Anita) at the behest of our new overlord.

That's about the sanest thing someone said in this questionable thread so far.
I, for one, welcome our new overlord-based calendar.

[darthokkata]

I keep hearing about how awful Anita is, but no one can provide much in the way of concrete evidence for it.

I don't care for her personally, but really don't see how she's so awful that she's worth all this butthurt.

I just think she's bad at her "job".

As far as I can tell, she's been accused of a lot, but not much can be legitimately verified.

She's tone deaf, doesn't understand games or the community, and terrible at making analogies, but her points in articles are largely not offensive outside of the context of games.

She basically uses games, a medium she doesn't understand, to try to push activism, and sucks at doing that.

I really don't see much in the way of her being so awful, outside of a lot of unverifiable stuff that and the claim that she's a bit self centered.

As I said, not a fan, but not seeing how she's worth the amount of attention and butthurt that is present in this thread.

[Hadley333]

The only reason this isn’t closed is because no one said the T word yet

[Balberoy GER]

darthokkata lähetti viestin:

I keep hearing about how awful Anita is, but no one can provide much in the way of concrete evidence for it.

I don't care for her personally, but really don't see how she's so awful that she's worth all this butthurt.

I just think she's bad at her "job".

As far as I can tell, she's been accused of a lot, but not much can be legitimately verified.

She's tone deaf, doesn't understand games or the community, and terrible at making analogies, but her points in articles are largely not offensive outside of the context of games.

She basically uses games, a medium she doesn't understand, to try to push activism, and sucks at doing that.

I really don't see much in the way of her being so awful, outside of a lot of unverifiable stuff that and the claim that she's a bit self centered.

As I said, not a fan, but not seeing how she's worth the amount of attention and butthurt that is present in this thread.

She basicly pushed gamer gate alone. Gave all of us a bad Rep and gets money from companies she extorts. She is a leech and getting the money the developer should get to make new games or DLC.

And when we buy Loop Hero we finance this ♥♥♥♥.
This is my problem. And every developer and publisher should avoid her like a plague.

Instead here they chose "lets burn money!"

I as a customer dont stand for this. Give the money to the employees and not some awful scammers.

[Kindred Spirit]

Cajun lähetti viestin:

darthokkata lähetti viestin:

I keep hearing about how awful Anita is, but no one can provide much in the way of concrete evidence for it.

I don't care for her personally, but really don't see how she's so awful that she's worth all this butthurt.

I just think she's bad at her "job".

As far as I can tell, she's been accused of a lot, but not much can be legitimately verified.

She's tone deaf, doesn't understand games or the community, and terrible at making analogies, but her points in articles are largely not offensive outside of the context of games.

She basically uses games, a medium she doesn't understand, to try to push activism, and sucks at doing that.

I really don't see much in the way of her being so awful, outside of a lot of unverifiable stuff that and the claim that she's a bit self centered.

As I said, not a fan, but not seeing how she's worth the amount of attention and butthurt that is present in this thread.

She basicly pushed gamer gate alone. Gave all of us a bad Rep and gets money from companies she extorts. She is a leech and getting the money the developer should get to make new games or DLC.

And when we buy Loop Hero we finance this ♥♥♥♥.
This is my problem. And every developer and publisher should avoid her like a plague.

Instead here they chose "lets burn money!"

I as a customer dont stand for this. Give the money to the employees and not some awful scammers.

Blackmailing developers - that's a nice game you have there consult her or it would be a shame if an angry internet mob happened to it - has been her act upon several developers with only negative affect when she does anything at all.

It makes me wonder what she found "problematic" to blackmail those associated with this "fundraiser" into matching morality cult church donations by those still gullible enough to not have cottoned onto her act, or if those associated are indeed some of the latter. But it shows what effect she's really had if it's down to chump change amounts compared to history; her threats aren't being taken seriously anymore except by the low-information casuals her and accomplices have gaslighted into giving money to the "incompetent" to fight a boogeyman of her invention.

Women have been a cornerstone of this industry for far longer than that grifter has pretended to be aware of it.

[JellyPuff]

Cajun lähetti viestin:

She basicly pushed gamer gate alone.

GG was a wave of death and rape threats on twitter in the name of "ethics in games media" made by absolute troglodytes, kickstarted by a game dev and game critic having made sweet, sweet love. Then "something, something Sarkeesian and SJW's ruining my videogames", because they started to look like idiots. This didn't help, though. It was the digital equivalent of monkeys throwing their own feces at each other and i cannot believe, that everytime there's a new game on Steam, there's guaranteed to be one thread in the forums complaining about how SJW's ruined that game for some reason.

While many disagree with her statements, Sarkeesian's criticisms were relatively tame for the most part. Criticizing the damsel-in-distress trope, for example, does not equal male genocide and neither will it ruin your videogames. Get real.

Her fundraiser actually promises some good things, though it's a bit shallow on the details, which makes it a little suspect. I don't know, why you'd automatically assume, the donations are done in bad faith. Many devs and smaller publishers probably just saw all their colleagues also matching donations and thought nothing of it. Your hateboner's giving tunnelvision.

If her fundraiser ends up being a scam, than the worst you could blame Devolver for, is being naive and falling for that.