Witches can be overpowered

[brown29knight]

They helped me make this insane, breaks-all-the-rules build:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2507863672

Yes, that is all swamps, and yes, I have over 50% Vamprisim, Life regen, and a damage stat WAY beyond my weapon. Thanks to the witches.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2507878844

5 Loops later, same weapon, 100-149 additional damage.

[Jean]

When talking about what's OP or balance in general it's best to do so in the context of a reasonable baseline. Your save file has already achieved several levels of godhood compounding on each other.

Otherwise yes it gets pretty nut. I left a game running last night with a maquis warrior fighting swamps/spiders and using witches. I was running level 50 equipment and was dead at loop level 250 when I got up this morning.

[brown29knight]

Exactly, the ability to get a potion (or 2) every tile, combined with the time limit mosquito put on the fight, means it takes forever to kill you.

The synergy of free potions and strong aftertaste is available from the first time you get witches, and that is what makes the attack so insane. I'm at loop 377 now, and my damage is up by more than 5k due to strong aftertaste.

The Vampirism and regen were just to make strong aftertaste activate every fight, as enemy damage increased, I eventually removed it in favor of counter gear.

So yes, I may be WAY post-endgame, but this build could be done much sooner.

[Moon/Void Slime]

I say it would be best to test witches on a fresh save then an already completed save.

Witches actually allows people to use swamps early before bottomless vial, lots of extra supply potions, and other stuff.

Like before, I saw no one use swamps in legit builds. Too much downside with little benefit. now I can see them using it.

[qBick]

yes bro, its Op https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2512046886

[happyscrub]

I'm new to the game, but don't having regen and vamp hurts you when on swamps?

[brown29knight]

yep. I was demonstrating just how broken witches were, that I had those stats and STILL couldn't die. In fact, as the warrior has an ability you can get that adds to your damage every time you drink a potion, The vamprism and regen actually helped me farm damage.

Since I posted this, they made witches less OP by making each hut reduce your max potions by 1, thus making it much harder to pull this off.