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Midna the Twilight Princess 2021 年 5 月 19 日 下午 3:54
Do Oblivion cards count towards map completion?
If I use the oblivion cards will the boss scale (the map completion) go up? I know that it goes up whenever you place a card on the map and I didn't know if by using a oblivion card if it would still count or not
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引用自 Morphic:
AFAIK, when you play an Oblivion card the "card count" first goes up but when Oblivion's effect resolves(removing something) the "card count" goes down.

This is why in situations where the "Boss spawn bar" is almost filled, you will spawn the boss when you play Oblivion. The game reads it as a "card was played" which bumps the "boss bar", which is enough to spawn the boss, so the game spawns the boss... but then your bar goes down from the Oblivion removing something... but the game can't "unspawn" the boss, so you end up having to fight the boss despite the bar not being filled.

TLDR: Basically, when the "Boss bar" is almost filled/one card away... playing an Oblivion card will spawn the boss. If the bar is 2+ cards away from spawning the boss, then playing Oblivion won't spawn the boss. Hope that makes sense.
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Morphic 2021 年 5 月 19 日 下午 4:04 
AFAIK, when you play an Oblivion card the "card count" first goes up but when Oblivion's effect resolves(removing something) the "card count" goes down.

This is why in situations where the "Boss spawn bar" is almost filled, you will spawn the boss when you play Oblivion. The game reads it as a "card was played" which bumps the "boss bar", which is enough to spawn the boss, so the game spawns the boss... but then your bar goes down from the Oblivion removing something... but the game can't "unspawn" the boss, so you end up having to fight the boss despite the bar not being filled.

TLDR: Basically, when the "Boss bar" is almost filled/one card away... playing an Oblivion card will spawn the boss. If the bar is 2+ cards away from spawning the boss, then playing Oblivion won't spawn the boss. Hope that makes sense.
最後修改者：Morphic; 2021 年 5 月 19 日 下午 4:07
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Midna the Twilight Princess 2021 年 5 月 19 日 下午 4:10 
引用自 Morphic：
AFAIK, when you play an Oblivion card the "card count" first goes up but when Oblivion's effect resolves(removing something) the "card count" goes down.

This is why in situations where the "Boss spawn bar" is almost filled, you will spawn the boss when you play Oblivion. The game reads it as a "card was played" which bumps the "boss bar", which is enough to spawn the boss, so the game spawns the boss... but then your bar goes down from the Oblivion removing something... but the game can't "unspawn" the boss, so you end up having to fight the boss despite the bar not being filled.

TLDR: Basically, when the "Boss bar" is almost filled/one card away... playing an Oblivion card will spawn the boss. If the bar is 2+ cards away from spawning the boss, then playing Oblivion won't spawn the boss. Hope that makes sense.
Thank you for that, that was actually the EXACT situation I was in. Had a really good warrior loop/run going but I had the boss bar almost filled all the way and I'm not ready for the boss yet. Didn't want to push my luck
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Morphic 2021 年 5 月 19 日 下午 4:21 
引用自 Goro Majima：
Thank you for that, that was actually the EXACT situation I was in. Had a really good warrior loop/run going but I had the boss bar almost filled all the way and I'm not ready for the boss yet. Didn't want to push my luck

Sure thing. I found out the hard way playing Oblivion can spawn the boss when it was so close. Near the end of the loop I played it, expecting it not to spawn the boss... except it did, which prevented from getting the Heal from Camp and I promptly died lol.

So now I just expect playing Oblivion will spawn the boss when the bar is so close to full.
最後修改者：Morphic; 2021 年 5 月 19 日 下午 4:22
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thebadman 2021 年 5 月 19 日 下午 4:23 
They negate progression but playing them makes game check if boss can spawn first, bookeries can trigger boss progression check too.
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Clone 2021 年 5 月 20 日 下午 9:54 
Even changes to existing tiles can cause the boss to spawn such as a bookery changing to empty. If you oblivion something you will end up with a net profit, they are not an equivalent exchange.
最後修改者：Clone; 2021 年 5 月 20 日 下午 9:56
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Arckeiner 2021 年 5 月 21 日 下午 1:58 
It does. It triggered the boss for me once.
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