I beat Chapter 4 Without equipping anything

[Jamjars]

Warrior. Not a single piece of gear the whole run. None at all.

Used one of my three revives on a group of three ratwolves and a harpy, but the other two remained untouched. I relied entirely on my supply items and my lightning temples to get me through. And the crypt, since I wasn't using armor ever anyway.

https://imgur.com/a/Q4fQYHu

Run thoughts:
My potions were healing for 30% due to a bunch of herbalist's sickles. This run would have been a lot easier if the hero drank his potions at missing 30% instead of 10% when he had a lot. So much wasted healing. Can we please have a more sensible hero who has his potion threshold at least at what his potions heal?
I had some count's chair supply and chest supply items I should have replaced with something more useful. Also silver pendants and silverware I could have replaced.
Kitchen Knives and food for initial HP, Alchemist Shelves for more potions, Antique Shelves for more HP during the run.
I wasted a bunch of oblivions on wrong targets like cleaning up lich mansions. I should never have let large mountains form, harpies cost me more potions than any other enemy. Goblins were also a problem. Bandits were harmless if you don't care about gear, they take little damage and deal little back. Ratwolves were easy because I had skinner knives.
I really wanted the perk that converted potion drinking into more damage. I never got it. That would have made this run so much easier because I'd actually have base damage for my warrior passive to work on.
Some way to toggle perks you got from bosses on or off, so they do or do not show up during subsequent runs, would be very appreciated. Even if the extra resource generation perks were giving me a lot of HP I still had a lot of useless choices. Deep pockets showed up every level, and it's literally useless on the fourth chapter since there is no resource cap.

Boss Notes:
Lich was free with 17 exquisite mirrors.
I didn't have any temples aimed at my camp for boss 2, which meant it took a while. Ate more potions than I should have on her as a result.
Boss 3 had two temples, but it was still a problem because I kept making the hounds hide and become invulnerable. The lightning couldn't hit them during that. The hunter actually went down first.
Boss 4 was actually the easiest, since I had more temples aimed at camp then.

In short, the people who complain about bandits can officially stop now. Also an unarmed martial artist class would be cool.

[VAR]

Good job but
>just get 17 mirrors
lmao
Surprised you didn't run oasis if the plan is to stall while the temples kill everything, mountains might not be necessary then

[Tyrant]

Originally posted by WAR:

Good job but
>just get 17 mirrors
lmao
Surprised you didn't run oasis if the plan is to stall while the temples kill everything, mountains might not be necessary then

Ehhh, running oasis means two landscapes to juggle instead of one. Mirrors funny though.

[Jean]

Impressive.

And I say this without wanting to diminish your achievement, I'm interested in seeing someone do with without supplies, which shouldn't change *too* much the difficulty but at least enough to make me curious about it.

It would be a good baseline to run against.

Then of course taking it further and further, with only base perks. Then only during full moons, etc.

[Nasabot]

I also thought about using the storm temple this way but have not enough mirrors yet.
Its surprising that so few storm temples do the job and it would be interesting how enemies armor improve the efficiency of the storm temple.

[Atomsk]

How are you getting so many potions?

[Jamjars]

Originally posted by Nasabot:

Originally posted by WAR:

Good job but
>just get 17 mirrors
lmao
Surprised you didn't run oasis if the plan is to stall while the temples kill everything, mountains might not be necessary then

It makes sense running with mountains.
Only deserts do not make you stronger relative to the enemies, it just accellerates everything.
Desert in combination with oasis makes you stronger, because you have more attackspeed then the enemies.

It's really important having that extra HP to scale your potions more and give warrior passive more time to work with. Desert would be harmful for the build I used, Forest would be useless. Meadows would be better than either.

Originally posted by Jean:

Impressive.

And I say this without wanting to diminish your achievement, I'm interested in seeing someone do with without supplies, which shouldn't change *too* much the difficulty but at least enough to make me curious about it.

It would be a good baseline to run against.

Then of course taking it further and further, with only base perks. Then only during full moons, etc.

I honestly don't think it's possible without supplies. It's possible with fewer supplies than I had, but supplies are still needed. The extra HP and healing and the mirrors are just too valuable. The guys from the outposts are nice but they die too fast to be the sole DPS source. Without the mirrors the storm temples would fry you.

Originally posted by Atomsk:

How are you getting so many potions?

Furniture. Alchemist's Shelf. Gives you +1 max potion each.

[Doombringer]

lol at your raging horde of bandits :P

[Atomsk]

Originally posted by Jamjars:

Originally posted by Atomsk:

How are you getting so many potions?

Furniture. Alchemist's Shelf. Gives you +1 max potion each.

Isn't there a supply cap? You have 34 potion shelves + 17 mirrors equipped?

[Jean]

Originally posted by Jamjars:

I honestly don't think it's possible without supplies. It's possible with fewer supplies than I had, but supplies are still needed. The extra HP and healing and the mirrors are just too valuable.

Well then I know what I'll be doing if I ever find the time to do it.

[Cryoz]

Interesting, but also highlights my problem with meta progression (supply items/town buildings). Who needs armour when you have a a stack of supply items pushing your HP to 11.5k by loop 10?

Chapter 4 was a real struggle until I fleshed out my town/supply a bit.

[Jamjars]

Originally posted by Doombringer:

lol at your raging horde of bandits :P

When you don't care about equipment, they're actually quite weak.

Originally posted by Atomsk:

Originally posted by Jamjars:

Furniture. Alchemist's Shelf. Gives you +1 max potion each.

Isn't there a supply cap? You have 34 potion shelves + 17 mirrors equipped?

You can build more houses and upgrade them to increase supply cap.

[Tyrant]

Originally posted by Jean:

Impressive.

And I say this without wanting to diminish your achievement, I'm interested in seeing someone do with without supplies, which shouldn't change *too* much the difficulty but at least enough to make me curious about it.

It would be a good baseline to run against.

Then of course taking it further and further, with only base perks. Then only during full moons, etc.

this is 100% not doable without supplies, saying it 'shouldn't change too much' is just grossly wrong and misinformed.

[Jamjars]

Originally posted by Tyrant:

Originally posted by Jean:

Impressive.

And I say this without wanting to diminish your achievement, I'm interested in seeing someone do with without supplies, which shouldn't change *too* much the difficulty but at least enough to make me curious about it.

It would be a good baseline to run against.

Then of course taking it further and further, with only base perks. Then only during full moons, etc.

this is 100% not doable without supplies, saying it 'shouldn't change too much' is just grossly wrong and misinformed.

I definitely didn't need all the supply slots I used. I got pretty unlucky with card and perk draws, so if you were lucky or willing to restart until you were lucky, you could do it with a lot fewer supplies.

Necromancer getting field exercises first perk and blood lightning second perk would be able to do it pretty easily, and could run forest/mountain, but I'm not sure if it would out perform a potion warrior or not.

The villages were kind of a mistake. Bandits were trivial, but quest monsters were not. Probably would have been better to not place them, or use a different tile like graveyards. Silverware would have worked on those.

[nul]

Originally posted by Jamjars:

Also an unarmed martial artist class would be cool.

Damn I want this now lmao

[Atomsk]

Originally posted by Jamjars:

Originally posted by Doombringer:

lol at your raging horde of bandits :P

When you don't care about equipment, they're actually quite weak.

Originally posted by Atomsk:

Isn't there a supply cap? You have 34 potion shelves + 17 mirrors equipped?

You can build more houses and upgrade them to increase supply cap.

Oh awesome, thanks. I guess I should build more than 2 lol