Burnt Forest is extremely Underpowered.

[Osamaru]

I can't think of any situation were trading 1-2% Attack Speed would ever be worth just 0.5 magic damage.

You half to sacrifice a huge number forests/thickets (and thus a huge amount of speed) to even get close to decent Magic damage using Burnt Forests.

And even then, you'd still end up doing more DPS by keeping the attack speed instead.

[Larsen]

would it help to run a river next to it?

[Chiroptera]

I think that's kind of the point. Every card interaction and additional effect has to be planned. I don't always want harpies, goblins, living armor, or bandits; but sometimes I like the upsides of the cards that spawn those things.

[Tyrant]

Attack speed is softcapped by stamina, raw damage isn't.
Not that I'm a fan of the stamina system, but it does mean that at some point the extra attack speed isn't very useful.

[Moon/Void Slime]

Originally posted by Chiroptera:

I think that's kind of the point. Every card interaction and additional effect has to be planned. I don't always want harpies, goblins, living armor, or bandits; but sometimes I like the upsides of the cards that spawn those things.

thing is, the upside of the mountain peak is worth the harpies. You get +5% over just 3x3 standard mountains, and a ton more if you build it out of just rocks.

stacking say 20 forests in a row and then using a thunder temple, you'll get TWO [villages?] and only 10 magic damage. This isn't even counting the fact that the thunder temple will most likely be out of position to be of any real use (and remember, the thunder temple is a threat to you as well).

There are so many downsides to setting up burnt forests, that the positives negligible to it. Plus the amount of set up and investment isn't worth the trade off as well. As the opening poster said and using the numbers above: sacrificing 20%-40% attack speed for just 10 magic damage is so not worth it. It should be at least 1 magic damage per burnt forest, to maybe even 2.

[TyroRNG]

Attack speed is only partially softcapped by stamina, once you run out of stamina you will have 1/3 your usual attack speed.
So if you get 300% attack speed you just attack as normal for a few seconds and than go at it again.
Not to mention the number of battles where you kill everything before they get a chance to really attack you.

[glythe]

Originally posted by Larsen:

would it help to run a river next to it?

he likely doesnt have river yet. But when he does he will understand.

[Osamaru]

Originally posted by Hunting Slime:

Originally posted by Chiroptera:

I think that's kind of the point. Every card interaction and additional effect has to be planned. I don't always want harpies, goblins, living armor, or bandits; but sometimes I like the upsides of the cards that spawn those things.

thing is, the upside of the mountain peak is worth the harpies. You get +5% over just 3x3 standard mountains, and a ton more if you build it out of just rocks.

stacking say 20 forests in a row and then using a thunder temple, you'll get TWO [villages?] and only 10 magic damage. This isn't even counting the fact that the thunder temple will most likely be out of position to be of any real use (and remember, the thunder temple is a threat to you as well).

There are so many downsides to setting up burnt forests, that the positives negligible to it. Plus the amount of set up and investment isn't worth the trade off as well. As the opening poster said and using the numbers above: sacrificing 20%-40% attack speed for just 10 magic damage is so not worth it. It should be at least 1 magic damage per burnt forest, to maybe even 2.

This.

[Atomsk]

Burnt forests are really good.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2416072998

[Bellpepper]

I'm not totally sure how worthwhile they are in comparison to using the space for other terrain; it's been mentioned that you can very reasonably cap out on attack speed with stamina, but with oasis..s. oasises. oasii, you can slow your attack speed for a benefit that scales better. However the villages are easy to obliterate if your deck is thin/use bookeries, and it might be good for a certain boss that I'm thinking of.

[!?!]

Magic damage is more dps, especially against skeletons.