2 Frog Kings

[bluerippin]

I'm currently fighting 2 Frog Kings on the same tile, damn things have 65 magic HP as well as their usual stats.

[JustSmile]

Publicado originalmente por maerchen:

Do the rusty nails items help against the frog king? They do retaliation danage, and I thought this would be viable.

Haven't tried frog king strategy yet, only thinking about it.

Frog king does not attack or deal damage in any way. He just sits there and wastes a few minutes of your time. The only danger comes from reversed regeneration and daily healing, since you're on top of a swamp.

[maerchen]

Daily healing kills me then? How do you avoid that?

[JustSmile]

You get lucky hitting him twice before it does.

[roboticaust]

Publicado originalmente por maerchen:

Daily healing kills me then? How do you avoid that?

Luck like JustSmile said or you plan ahead for it. Crypt+supply items can give you quite the buffer, especially when you have access to plenty of supply items that give you more hp cap rather than direct heals. Just don't pull a dummy and bring bookeries with you or you're going to have a bad time ;p

[Snakester95]

Publicado originalmente por maerchen:

Daily healing kills me then? How do you avoid that?

Not using Meadows when going after the Frog King helps too. Since they're the main, if only? way to get daily health. The only reason it doesn't work here is because the Frog King is on a Swamp tile. Which reverses healing effects to damage you instead. Except for potions.

[CaptainRedBeard]

Publicado originalmente por maerchen:

Daily healing kills me then? How do you avoid that?

Should also be noted that the Surveyor trait will kill you too. Didn't consider that when I took it as my 7th trait on a Frog King run.

[meatloaf]

Publicado originalmente por Snakester95:

I'm surprised they have 65 Magic HP, normally they only have 2 HP. Any idea why that happened for you? Because I can only imagine them taking forever to kill. For anyone wondering how to spawn the Frog King, I wrote up a guide here[www.slythergames.com].

about your article, i'm pretty sure the fan wiki has the decoded message from the frog king. i guess he speaks the same language as the fishmen

[Snakester95]

Publicado originalmente por meatloaf:

Publicado originalmente por Snakester95:

I'm surprised they have 65 Magic HP, normally they only have 2 HP. Any idea why that happened for you? Because I can only imagine them taking forever to kill. For anyone wondering how to spawn the Frog King, I wrote up a guide here[www.slythergames.com].

about your article, i'm pretty sure the fan wiki has the decoded message from the frog king. i guess he speaks the same language as the fishmen

Thanks for the heads up meatloaf, I'll toss that into my article. I had no idea haha

[Tamren]

What chapter did you guys do this challenge on? I can't figure out how to operate around swamps, every character I have tends to die by the time I can put down six swamps, let along an entire loop of them. I even tried going back to chapter 1 but that didn't help either because I was getting crap loot. What other methods are there to sustain yourself if daily HP/vampirism/regen is all reversed on you? The only thing I can think of is that artifact that gives you +1 potion but I only have one of those.

[Snakester95]

Publicado originalmente por Tamren:

What chapter did you guys do this challenge on? I can't figure out how to operate around swamps, every character I have tends to die by the time I can put down six swamps, let along an entire loop of them. I even tried going back to chapter 1 but that didn't help either because I was getting crap loot. What other methods are there to sustain yourself if daily HP/vampirism/regen is all reversed on you? The only thing I can think of is that artifact that gives you +1 potion but I only have one of those.

I'm pretty sure I did it on Chapter 2, but you can do it on Chapter 1 as well. A big strategy for summoning the Frog King is playing as a Rogue with Magic HP via the Arsenal. You can still do this as the Necromancer too, I suppose. But, you benefit from evasion so you can avoid letting any damage get to your health. The main disadvantage is the 5% vampirism since you'll lose health on each Swamp tile.

Definitely avoid the healing types like you mentioned, especially Meadows. As nice as they may be in the beginning, it'll backfire pretty quickly. Also, if you play as the Rogue, you can use Outposts from the War Camp. This adds another card into your RNG, but it pays off in my opinion. The guide I linked on the first page in this thread has more tips like these from my own experience.

[Tamren]

Ok I'll try rogue again with evasion maxed. I used rogue on my first attempt but quickly discarded it because the inherent vampirism was killing myself faster than the enemies. I then switched to necro but that class has health issues too. I never thought about trying warrior because getting good loot that doesn't have regen or vampirism on it would be difficult.

[Seftak]

Necro is like the easiest to do that. You should not even lose HP with the necro...

[Tamren]

Well you'd think so but they seem to be cursed when I try for the frog achievement. Normally my necro has no trouble at all but the moment I introduce swamps to my deck I get to watch my necro die to random packs of four spiders. I summon a skelly, the spiders kill it in one hit, rinse and repeat until I'm dead.

Which is odd because I normally have no problem with spiders whatsoever, I could even throw in some wolves and a vampire and steamroll right through them. But not on swamps apparently.

[Seftak]

Why do you use spiders with the necro AND add them to swamps?? use vampire mansions and swamps.

[Tamren]

For card draw, spiders are weak and quick spawning. I've tried doing decks with fewer creatures but it doesn't help because I don't have the cards or loot to do anything while the loop counter ticks up and up and makes everything that much harder.