Do bosses scale with loop?

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Will the boss be stronger if I make more loops before fighting him?

By my experience it looks like they don't scale, but I couldn't find a source for that so it would be nice if anyone could answer this for me :)

[Tumalu]

They do scale. It's best to fight them as soon as you can, provided you've found the gear you need.

They get totally crazy if you wait a long time!

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Oh... Now I see a use for the maze of memories. Thanks :)

[1MantisPhoenix]

Yes, 274 damage by level 10.. insane.. :/ even if you've got 1500HP _ defense is super important, all your late game stats will matter in the end-fights if you let it go,

OR< you build as fast as possible to level as fast as possible

it becomes more and more fun , as you continue

[Float07]

Originally posted by {TTV/1MantisPhoenix/∞:

all your late game stats will matter in the end-fights if you let it go.

Yeah. I did a chapter 3 run with the rogue and only focused on damage. When fighting the hunter my hero couldn't resist the long combat ;-;

[1MantisPhoenix]

Originally posted by Float07:

Originally posted by {TTV/1MantisPhoenix/∞:

all your late game stats will matter in the end-fights if you let it go.

Yeah. I did a chapter 3 run with the rogue and only focused on damage. When fighting the hunter my hero couldn't resist the long combat ;-;

I can't confirm yet if jack-of-all-trades vs specialized evasion/counter/etc is best :) but it's so fun trying everything.

I suck at acquiring vampirism items for rogue class ,and i hate that.. but.. that 5% is probably due to the super high crits that are possible,

and I choose the trait for 1000% damage regularly :D or a pet aid,

[Float07]

Originally posted by {TTV/1MantisPhoenix/∞:

Originally posted by Float07:

Yeah. I did a chapter 3 run with the rogue and only focused on damage. When fighting the hunter my hero couldn't resist the long combat ;-;

I can't confirm yet if jack-of-all-trades vs specialized evasion/counter/etc is best :) but it's so fun trying everything.

I suck at acquiring vampirism items for rogue class ,and i hate that.. but.. that 5% is probably due to the super high crits that are possible,

and I choose the trait for 1000% damage regularly :D or a pet aid,

You can equip high amounts of counts chair, which can lead to pretty op builds. And yeah, trying is fun :v

[FilthySouls]

This game is so annoying. First it want me to grind the sh*t out of loops to even get a halfway viable character - then I'm having so much fun with my character, collecting stuff until loop 20 only to get yeeted into oblivion by that damn chapter two boss.

I f*cking hate weird a** scaling enemies/bosses. [hated it when Dead Cells did it, until they luckily removed it again]
And I f*cking hate clicker games and dumb grinds that force me to spend hours doing grinding that isn't even fun.

This game combines everything I hate, and it embodies everything bad I used to claim about the roguelike* genre, before I actually tried some, and ended up loving them.

But this game ain't it. Glad I tried it though. And I will try it some more, because I feel like wasting some time before I move onto the next game.

[1MantisPhoenix]

Originally posted by FilthySouls:

This game is so annoying. First it want me to grind the sh*t out of loops to even get a halfway viable character - then I'm having so much fun with my character, collecting stuff until loop 20 only to get yeeted into oblivion by that damn chapter two boss.

I f*cking hate weird a** scaling enemies/bosses. [hated it when Dead Cells did it, until they luckily removed it again]
And I f*cking hate clicker games and dumb grinds that force me to spend hours doing grinding that isn't even fun.

This game combines everything I hate, and it embodies everything bad I used to claim about the roguelike* genre, before I actually tried some, and ended up loving them.

But this game ain't it. Glad I tried it though. And I will try it some more, because I feel like wasting some time before I move onto the next game.

Pay attention to the meter That matches the boss to your tiles you place on the map. If you place them all too soon you won't be strong enough to fight the boss, indeed.

[Icedfate]

i rage quitted dead cells, which is a shame, because dead cells is an awesome game, but i couldn't even beat 2 cells difficulty mode, and it goes up to 5! even on 2 cells, the final boss takes a million zillion hits and it kills you in like. . .2 hits. no lies. it's friggin ridiculous, and the speed at which it attacks, requiring the reaction time of batman, in such wide arcs, leaving only tiny pixel perfect windows of safetly on the screen, and 4 phases where it becomes invulnerable between phases.

frigging impossible, and yet people have done it.
I don't suck at video game, but that game just kicked my ass.

[1MantisPhoenix]

Originally posted by Icedfate:

i rage quitted dead cells, which is a shame, because dead cells is an awesome game, but i couldn't even beat 2 cells difficulty mode, and it goes up to 5! even on 2 cells, the final boss takes a million zillion hits and it kills you in like. . .2 hits. no lies. it's friggin ridiculous, and the speed at which it attacks, requiring the reaction time of batman, in such wide arcs, leaving only tiny pixel perfect windows of safetly on the screen, and 4 phases where it becomes invulnerable between phases.

frigging impossible, and yet people have done it.
I don't suck at video game, but that game just kicked my ass.

do you use a controller ?

[Icedfate]

Originally posted by 1MantisPhoenix∞:

Originally posted by Icedfate:

i rage quitted dead cells, which is a shame, because dead cells is an awesome game, but i couldn't even beat 2 cells difficulty mode, and it goes up to 5! even on 2 cells, the final boss takes a million zillion hits and it kills you in like. . .2 hits. no lies. it's friggin ridiculous, and the speed at which it attacks, requiring the reaction time of batman, in such wide arcs, leaving only tiny pixel perfect windows of safetly on the screen, and 4 phases where it becomes invulnerable between phases.

frigging impossible, and yet people have done it.
I don't suck at video game, but that game just kicked my ass.

do you use a controller ?

yes.
it's ironic because i bought the DLC and i haven't tried it yet because i'm still suffering PTSD from the vanilla.

playing 1 cells mode is really fun, but the difficultly curve, they turn it up to 11 in 2 cells mode.
like it goes from letting you heal after every boss battle, straight to no healing at all.
I dunno what 3 cells, 4 cells and 5 cells modes are like, because obviously, i never made it there.
but i did watch gameplay footage of a guy playing 5 cells mode and wondering how the frig is he so good at it. . .but of course, he does lose a lot of his runs and he just takes it in stride as it's part of the game.
but i get frustrated when i spend 200 hours at something and can't beat it.


i mean, if it's a story driven open world sandbox RPG like skyrim or witcher or Elex or something, i could spend 200 hours having fun.

but if those 200 hours are just spent replaying the same levels over and over and never making progress.

now, i love roguelikes. this is a roguelike. and as you play a roguelike, you get better at it. learning the tricks. but sometimes, they design it such a way where they cap your levels and abilities and no matter how many times you play, you will never be any stronger than you are at the cap and then they design the endboss so you just barely win with perfect play, at the cap and still lose a lot, that's when i rage quit. .

[1MantisPhoenix]

Originally posted by Icedfate:

Originally posted by 1MantisPhoenix∞:

do you use a controller ?

yes.
it's ironic because i bought the DLC and i haven't tried it yet because i'm still suffering PTSD from the vanilla

Sorry to hear, it's taken me a long time to get good at it, but it's so luck based on your weapons you have or have actually unlocked, so there are good runs great runs, and absolute trash learning runs,

[Lord Quinton]

Originally posted by Icedfate:

i rage quitted dead cells, which is a shame, because dead cells is an awesome game, but i couldn't even beat 2 cells difficulty mode, and it goes up to 5! even on 2 cells, the final boss takes a million zillion hits and it kills you in like. . .2 hits. no lies. it's friggin ridiculous, and the speed at which it attacks, requiring the reaction time of batman, in such wide arcs, leaving only tiny pixel perfect windows of safetly on the screen, and 4 phases where it becomes invulnerable between phases.

frigging impossible, and yet people have done it.
I don't suck at video game, but that game just kicked my ass.

dead cells has MASSIVE RNG. i've beaten the 3 cell boss back when they had heavy scaling and it was me finding just the right stuff near the end of the game that allowed me to casually cut through the boss.

[Rio]

Funny because I took forever looping until I fought the final boss as a necro.

Didn't matter his damage with my summoning speed. And skeletons taking the damage.

[FilthySouls]

Originally posted by 1MantisPhoenix∞:

Pay attention to the meter That matches the boss to your tiles you place on the map. If you place them all too soon you won't be strong enough to fight the boss, indeed.

That's not the issue. Apparantly I waited "too long" to fight the boss - according to other topics talkin g about the scaling. I don't even know what to believe or how to logically go from there? Do I fight on loop 10 or do I loop as long as I want.
I was on loop 20, awesome gear that carried me just so easily through the loops - but apparantly that almost 5k hp boss thought otherwise of my gear.

Really no f*cking clue here.