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BLACKHEART ENEMIES ARE SO OP!
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Originally posted by Good Shepherd Entertainment:
We hear you on this. We're looking into a balance patch upcoming and gathering feedback for that now. Please see the patchnotes for more information. https://steamcommunity.com/app/1282410/discussions/0/3448087385663901765/
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vikpr Aug 5, 2022 @ 7:15am 
They need to have a cooldown on their big attack, being able to do every turn a 16-22 damage that ignores cover and leaves action points for jinx or movement is indeed ridiculous. So either focus fire on one at a time to kill him in a single turn or ignore them until you clear the other enemies, then do one at a time. If you don't damage them then they do a normal weapon attack.
Pennfalath Aug 5, 2022 @ 7:39am 
That is indeed the trick: only damage them if you are sure you can kill them.
Star Taker Aug 5, 2022 @ 8:21am 
they also kep running away to hide so you cant gang up on them, the first mission with clalish is just impossible for me xd i cant barely hurt the blackhearts even once and my shots always miss with them, also like the AI is making it impossible for me to hit them
Pennfalath Aug 5, 2022 @ 8:39am 
My way of dealing with them (or most enemies that hide): Use Flynn's ability to switch locations (optionally after using 1 AP to put her in an open location first).
Goo666e Aug 5, 2022 @ 9:32am 
This needs to be fixed, its doable, but not worth the effort to kill them and just makes the stage not fun.
jack_of_tears Aug 5, 2022 @ 10:52am 
Originally posted by Goose:
This needs to be fixed, its doable, but not worth the effort to kill them and just makes the stage not fun.

Agreed, they can be overcome but - fudge on a biscuit - they are unfun to deal with.
GeneralGonzo Aug 5, 2022 @ 2:04pm 
Take Deer with you and his ult will make your deal with them !
Global Warming Aug 5, 2022 @ 2:38pm 
Swap them with Flynn near, bonus points if it's near someone you got low so you can put a melee weapon on flynn have her bop a weak enemy after portaling then going on a shooting spree. As for the black heart, 16 HP is very specific, that's two rifle shots, or 3 desert ranger or pistol + pistolero shots. Plan around that.

The round timer on nightmare makes it tricky most times, but I cleared the mission with bravado off the last kill letting me finish it. I thought taking them down first was the play, but it turns out if you bravado down the warriors, dealing with the blackhearts one at a time is the way to go.
Star Taker Aug 6, 2022 @ 12:22am 
Originally posted by Global Warming:
Swap them with Flynn near, bonus points if it's near someone you got low so you can put a melee weapon on flynn have her bop a weak enemy after portaling then going on a shooting spree. As for the black heart, 16 HP is very specific, that's two rifle shots, or 3 desert ranger or pistol + pistolero shots. Plan around that.

The round timer on nightmare makes it tricky most times, but I cleared the mission with bravado off the last kill letting me finish it. I thought taking them down first was the play, but it turns out if you bravado down the warriors, dealing with the blackhearts one at a time is the way to go.
thanks for the tip, im through the level now
Grumblecakes Aug 6, 2022 @ 12:59am 
I don't know yet if they are overpowered, but the difficulty sure did ramp up from the previous missions.
LukanGamer Aug 6, 2022 @ 1:55am 
ya they are bs from what I seen they seem to make a certain guy from DBZ jelly (with the whole basically switching near dead hp with 1 your people)
Obi Hung Kenobi Aug 6, 2022 @ 1:57am 
ignore them, if you dont attack them directly they literally do nothing but run or miss shots

only attack them when u know u can kill them in 1 turn

i literally ran past them to objective np half the time
Neyreyan_Youtube Aug 6, 2022 @ 5:21am 
Try to deal with the warriors first and then use flynn to teleport the blackhear in thw firiging range of the sniper wich does 9 damage and then chain it with gin's ability or bill's revolver damage.
They are passive most times and only engage when you are close. Another trick is to laughing dear to kill them. Keep in mind you can buy bandages to heal and remove cripple effects
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Good Shepherd Entertainment  [developer] Aug 6, 2022 @ 6:41am 
We hear you on this. We're looking into a balance patch upcoming and gathering feedback for that now. Please see the patchnotes for more information. https://steamcommunity.com/app/1282410/discussions/0/3448087385663901765/
Tal0s Aug 6, 2022 @ 7:28am 
Originally posted by Good Shepherd Entertainment:
We hear you on this. We're looking into a balance patch upcoming and gathering feedback for that now. Please see the patchnotes for more information. https://steamcommunity.com/app/1282410/discussions/0/3448087385663901765/
Thank god, they shouldnt be able to steal health every single turn.
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