F-UCHSIA'S ABILITY IS TRASH

[¤RAV¤ Jesus]

DON'T KNOW WHERE THE ENEMY IS ? GOOD JUST PRESS A BUTTON ! WOW WHAT AN AMAZING GAME MECHANIC , NOW YOU HAVE WALLHACKS BY PRESSING A SINGLE BUTTON , GENIUS , WHO COULD HAVE THOUGHT OF SUCH AN AMAZINGLY NUANCED SKILL BASED MECHANIC ? EINSTEIN OF COURSE !

It's crazy how the game is even self aware that THERE IS NO COUNTER TO THIS AND MOCKS YOU TELLING "RUN ! " WOW REALLY ?

[Alies]

agreed, dealing with fuchsia can be really annoying, she always has advantage in 1v1s cause of wallhack, movement speed and heals, her rifle seems to be way better than every other ones in game as well (except for Ming)

[Royal676111]

¤RAV¤ Jesus a écrit :

ArcheNovalis a écrit :

uh.. i thought this was a complaint about it being super weak. it is super weak. it lasts 1s. sure you can see them, but they immediately disappear. you don't get to see them for the entire duration of the ability. super weak ability.

her ult is even worse. good for 1v1, nothing else. bad for 1v2, ammo is very limited, useless ability when out of ammo

i'm not saying it's overpower , i'm saying it has no counter play

Yet despite the 'no counter' play she isn't even top tier, in fact, she average around B and maybe low A...in fact, there are just better scanners or just more annoying agents that we should be talking about *cough cough* "Dash!". Like oh wow, she got wall hacks...for a short duration...people already talked about how you can easily counter her, by either using area denial or etc but honestly the fact that you ignore all of this just pretty shows that you love to bury your head into the sand.

[Royal676111]

TimeTimeTime a écrit :

I notice that Fuchsia and Ming are the pro-gamers favorites, along Lawine.

Ming, of course, because her damage regenerates the shields, so that's a no brainer for someone with good aim. She slows down enemies making them easy targets, like Sage with duelist qualities, lol.

Fuchsia reveals people, absorbs crystals, and gets a boost in firing power. No brainer, again, since it limits the amount of game sense you need.

Lawine reveals, once again, limits the game sense needed, and basically makes a quarter of the site uninhabitable. It's hard to counter, too, since you can juist throw it on the outside of a wall and reveal the people. If they try to contest the area, they have to push into an open space.

It's funny how pro-gamers instantly know how to abuse agents, lol.

Yep although with Fuchsia, she is the type of agent that needs to snowball, if she can't get that ball rolling then she is kind of screwed. Ming is great...like you described as for Lawine she is an amazing for providing intel for teams although her AR is average.

[Royal676111]

Aimee a écrit :

Afangun a écrit :

celestia s tier for someone? xdd

A-tier.
Very strong character, but her entire kit falls apart when there are no teammates alive or nearby. Lowering her down a bit because of that.

Actually it is S tier because being able to provide shields at a moment notice is just so good and can help swing gun fights even on defence where Konami exist, she is still amazing as she can use more then once unlike Konami drone and her Ult can save your teammate or get you out of a bad position. Her gun is...fine, high headshot damage is nice and the recoil isn't that bad. Oh did I mention she is one of the few characters that can run heavy armour just fine thanks to her passive which can also help your team by just existing. Sure she isn't amazing when solo but in a team she is just that good especially on attack.

[0000]

Fuschia ability is fine.

If you think she is broken, just use her.

If I'm being honest, if your team does not pick Lawrence, and 1 smoker(Reichi/Meredith) in Demolition.

Just lose.

[Royal676111]

¤RAV¤ Jesus a écrit :

Royal676111 a écrit :

You do realise Fuschia isn't even the best/most annoying character in this game and the fact that E basically announce every enemy near you that hey I am nearby, so no it isn't just hehe free wallhacks, I win because of the following.

A: It's has a duration that doesn't last long, like no seriously it's feel like its last for only a couple of seconds
B: Warns every enemy that you are nearby.
C: Only Fuschia can see with her E
D: We have wallhacks already present in this game except...your team can also see them from Lawine Passive and E, Nobunaga Awakening 2 and ult, etc. Except most of them last a lot longer can your team can see.
E: She isn't even a strongest character, her downside of being selfish and needing to snowball, mean she at best a B or low A tier character

Like I don't get it, sure she can be strong but she sure the hell doesn't break the game, heck one of the character has a one way wall with high damage DMR but even then he wasn't top tier so what you think of a character that has temporary wallhacks will perform...not as good as you expect.

F-uchsia has the best defender gun + Wallhack ( wich can be extended with upgrades )

Also i never argued that she is broken , i argued that it doesn't make sense to have wallhack as the REWARD for being able to press a Button.
The first rule of game balance is that the stronger an ability is the harder it should be to pull it off , well Wallhack is the best ability by far and pressing a button is the EASIEST thing to do.

You do realise Fuchina doesn't have the best defender gun...right? That belongs to Mich or better known as "Might Meow!" who also has wall hacks in form of her turret or getting hit, in fact her AR is one of the best the game. Solid damage, Rate of fire and very easy to control, in fact, even after the nerfs to her turrets...she is still top tier.

[Afangun]

0000 a écrit :

Fuschia ability is fine.

If you think she is broken, just use her.

If I'm being honest, if your team does not pick Lawrence, and 1 smoker(Reichi/Meredith) in Demolition.

Just lose.

so true
no lawine, ming, meredith and ling = trolling

[0000]

Afangun a écrit :

0000 a écrit :

Fuschia ability is fine.

If you think she is broken, just use her.

If I'm being honest, if your team does not pick Lawrence, and 1 smoker(Reichi/Meredith) in Demolition.

Just lose.

so true
no lawine, ming, meredith and ling = trolling

You kinda can push without Ming on low ELO, but on higher ELO, you have to have Ming to clear the strong side.

But in low ELO, you have to have 1 smoker and enemy scanner. Without that it's extremely rough to push, unless your team good at rotating or just straight up good fragger.

[Afangun]

0000 a écrit :

Afangun a écrit :

so true
no lawine, ming, meredith and ling = trolling

You kinda can push without Ming on low ELO, but on higher ELO, you have to have Ming to clear the strong side.

But in low ELO, you have to have 1 smoker and enemy scanner. Without that it's extremely rough to push, unless your team good at rotating or just straight up good fragger.

ming does a lot of work
low elo is not a reason not to take it

[Afangun]

about smokers
I'm sorry that meredith will get nerf later
I heard that her a3 will no longer give smoke
but I don't know what she will do after nerf

[0000]

Afangun a écrit :

about smokers
I'm sorry that meredith will get nerf later
I heard that her a3 will no longer give smoke
but I don't know what she will do after nerf

Oof, that's rough. Then the meta just gonna shift towards Ming, Law, Richie.

Ming is kinda hard to use. So I don't really expect much, but you can't really push much with Ming+Smoker or Ming+Law.

Basically:
Smoker+Law=Bare minimum.
Smoker+Law+Ming=Good.

[Afangun]

0000 a écrit :

Afangun a écrit :

about smokers
I'm sorry that meredith will get nerf later
I heard that her a3 will no longer give smoke
but I don't know what she will do after nerf

Oof, that's rough. Then the meta just gonna shift towards Ming, Law, Richie.

Ming is kinda hard to use. So I don't really expect much, but you can't really push much with Ming+Smoker or Ming+Law.

Basically:
Smoker+Law=Bare minimum.
Smoker+Law+Ming=Good.

ming is hard to use only when 0 help from your team

[Afangun]

ming is very easy to learn and you shouldn't be afraid to die on this character
if you push and take a place and then die then you have done your job
for the rest you can blame your teammates for not helping you

[Afangun]

I play for the characters that the team needs
I will play for lawine ming meredith eika
The only problem is which character my team chooses
it's very annoying when, for example, someone locks lawine and at the last moment he changes his character

[Toez]

Imagine being mad at a mid tier