ranked needs to be solo and reworked

[kelthuzad]

ranked should not have premade teams as it makes actually finding a match hell
as the game clearly looks at ones scores to match either a win or lose lobby

also the whole points system promote people to be absolute degenerates that focus on their kill death ratio rather then actually play to win
it also puts people who play objectives over kills in a path to slower rise or faster fall

[JohnRocket]

Fact, but i don't think that dev care. Same MM on China, same here, but China have online and we dont. And every game is the same, if enemy have 2+ premade - it's will stomped in most cases.

[Malamasala]

That is how ALL FPS have been since forever though. You never are rewarded for healing and doing objectives. It is the kill death ratio every single game, and it means they are all just death match simulators with extra steps that can get you de-ranked if you aren't both killing and winning.

[Aimee]

Strinova does give you assists for any help you provide before the kill another person gets.
This can be slowing the enemy, buffing your teammate or even healing them.

I must say this ''helping'' another person, or going for the win... is not something is see back in the ranked point gain all that much. But you do clearly see it in the endscore.

[JohnRocket]

Originally posted by Malamasala:

That is how ALL FPS have been since forever though. You never are rewarded for healing and doing objectives. It is the kill death ratio every single game, and it means they are all just death match simulators with extra steps that can get you de-ranked if you aren't both killing and winning.

I'll probably disappoint you, maybe I'll reveal a secret to you, but any modern competitive FPS has hidden systems, as well as SBMM that controls your gaming experience. They try to keep your win rate at a certain % if you play well and at the same time throw you people depending on whether you play well or not.

There is nothing at all in the strinova, here the MM is at the level of 2007, only then there were lobbies, and now some semblance of matchmaking.
Today this divine MM on neutron gave me two people who did not even calibrate (after this game they received substance 2). This MM is so dead that it really throws people of the substance level into games with neutrons, but the opponents had a stack of 3 people with platinum and diamond. Fair? Words cannot describe how!

Which already says that MM in the line is just a broken piece of code, and the game has no factors that somehow compare people in the rating. Except for the pictures of ranks.

[Val]

Originally posted by kelthuzad:

ranked should not have premade teams as it makes actually finding a match hell
as the game clearly looks at ones scores to match either a win or lose lobby

Completely agree with you on this one.

Originally posted by kelthuzad:

also the whole points system promote people to be absolute degenerates that focus on their kill death ratio rather then actually play to win
it also puts people who play objectives over kills in a path to slower rise or faster fall

It is a game about kills. Kills should take priority even over winning in matchmaking.
The purpose of the objecive is to prevent camping.

[Afangun]

Originally posted by Val:

Originally posted by kelthuzad:

ranked should not have premade teams as it makes actually finding a match hell
as the game clearly looks at ones scores to match either a win or lose lobby

Completely agree with you on this one.

Originally posted by kelthuzad:

also the whole points system promote people to be absolute degenerates that focus on their kill death ratio rather then actually play to win
it also puts people who play objectives over kills in a path to slower rise or faster fall

It is a game about kills. Kills should take priority even over winning in matchmaking.
The purpose of the objecive is to prevent camping.

this game is about teamwork
this has the biggest priority here if no one helps anyone in your team then this is a 90% lose

[kelthuzad]

Originally posted by Val:

Originally posted by kelthuzad:

ranked should not have premade teams as it makes actually finding a match hell
as the game clearly looks at ones scores to match either a win or lose lobby

Completely agree with you on this one.

Originally posted by kelthuzad:

also the whole points system promote people to be absolute degenerates that focus on their kill death ratio rather then actually play to win
it also puts people who play objectives over kills in a path to slower rise or faster fall

It is a game about kills. Kills should take priority even over winning in matchmaking.
The purpose of the objecive is to prevent camping.

so how many matches have you lost because a fucia or baimo cant help themselves to a flank and death every round?
im sure as hell stuck in my rank because of such idiots

[Malamasala]

Originally posted by kelthuzad:

Originally posted by Val:

Completely agree with you on this one.



It is a game about kills. Kills should take priority even over winning in matchmaking.
The purpose of the objecive is to prevent camping.

so how many matches have you lost because a fucia or baimo cant help themselves to a flank and death every round?
im sure as hell stuck in my rank because of such idiots

I don't do ranked, but in challenge most losses are because my teammates doesn't realise there are bombs involved in demolition. They think kill death ratio is the thing to focus on.

[큐트보이준]

The biggest problem is people do not use mic whether you que with your friends or not.

[Weh-Ohhhh]

i would advise to wait and see what happens when they drop Demolition 2.0. It sounds like this is going to bring massive changes, some based off player feedback. If they're smart, they will make changes so that you are awarded more points if you play objective smartly.

Because it's only the duelist characters that move up in the rankings because they are granted the most leathality. So they have 2 choices: give objective play more score or make it so that non duelists are all buffed so that they can handle themselves in 1v1s against duelists. the first choice seems like it would be the easiest.

This will never happen but I would love this:
If you eliminate an opponent you should be able to take their gun as well as their gadgets. Other games do this and it makes the game way more fun. I mean, they don't care about making ranked an actual skill based experience any way so why not just make the game fun?

[Flariz]

Originally posted by june9303:

The biggest problem is people do not use mic whether you que with your friends or not.

I never ever used a mic online and that’s not gonna change now sorry.

[Malamasala]

Originally posted by Flariz:

Originally posted by june9303:

The biggest problem is people do not use mic whether you que with your friends or not.

I never ever used a mic online and that’s not gonna change now sorry.

In my experience, just 1 person using mic in your team, can boost win rate by a lot.

(But it also happens they suggest dumb things that don't work out. It is not a fool proof way to always win)

[JohnRocket]

People's up quarks by groups abuse (MM give much easier opponents against groups of 3). But moleculas trying to find problem in mic...

Originally posted by Weh-Ohhhh:

i would advise to wait and see what happens when they drop Demolition 2.0. It sounds like this is going to bring massive changes, some based off player feedback. If they're smart, they will make changes so that you are awarded more points if you play objective smartly.

Because it's only the duelist characters that move up in the rankings because they are granted the most leathality. So they have 2 choices: give objective play more score or make it so that non duelists are all buffed so that they can handle themselves in 1v1s against duelists. the first choice seems like it would be the easiest.

This will never happen but I would love this:
If you eliminate an opponent you should be able to take their gun as well as their gadgets. Other games do this and it makes the game way more fun. I mean, they don't care about making ranked an actual skill based experience any way so why not just make the game fun?

Ranked queue will not have DM 2.0 as i know.

In fact, I think that DM 2.0, without changes to matchmaking, will kill the game completely. Characters will become even fatter, which will play even more into the hands of people who abuse the system through groups. And if before there was at least some chance to "Drag" the game, now two or three people in a group will just run around like indestructible tanks, since solo players do not like to help and solo play is chaotic in principle.

For those who like to yell "WELL, FIND A GROUP": Well, sit with 2000 online and enjoy the fact that your "Friends" will be the first to leave.

[ROTBLOOD RAIDING PARTIES]

Originally posted by JohnRocket:

People's up quarks by groups abuse (MM give much easier opponents against groups of 3). But moleculas trying to find problem in mic...

Originally posted by Weh-Ohhhh:

i would advise to wait and see what happens when they drop Demolition 2.0. It sounds like this is going to bring massive changes, some based off player feedback. If they're smart, they will make changes so that you are awarded more points if you play objective smartly.

Because it's only the duelist characters that move up in the rankings because they are granted the most leathality. So they have 2 choices: give objective play more score or make it so that non duelists are all buffed so that they can handle themselves in 1v1s against duelists. the first choice seems like it would be the easiest.

This will never happen but I would love this:
If you eliminate an opponent you should be able to take their gun as well as their gadgets. Other games do this and it makes the game way more fun. I mean, they don't care about making ranked an actual skill based experience any way so why not just make the game fun?

Ranked queue will not have DM 2.0 as i know.

In fact, I think that DM 2.0, without changes to matchmaking, will kill the game completely. Characters will become even fatter, which will play even more into the hands of people who abuse the system through groups. And if before there was at least some chance to "Drag" the game, now two or three people in a group will just run around like indestructible tanks, since solo players do not like to help and solo play is chaotic in principle.

For those who like to yell "WELL, FIND A GROUP": Well, sit with 2000 online and enjoy the fact that your "Friends" will be the first to leave.

There were datamines of new modes in CN client - demo 2.0 will replace the old one and ranked mode will be based on it too. Same will happen to Escort after a patch or two.

[Flariz]

Wait WHAT?

they are straight up going to delete a whole mode...?