Ranked VS Challenge

[Fulcrum.Armulus]

Hi all, I want to collect some feedback on ranked and challenge mode.

Specifically, what are the main reasons why you play challenge as opposed to playing ranked?

And, if you mostly play ranked, what part of it do you like the most?

[TimeTimeTime]

I play competitive because I am a casual player, but moreso, I lack a party. To play rank, you probably need a good party to make it fun. Ranked modes on other fps games put me off to it. You end up grinding away to just go up a smidgen. I would rather just play balanced Demolition games in competitive mode.

Unless Ranked has better matchmaking, which I hear it doesn't, then I don't think it's fun to play against 5 party members on a rando team. If I am put with a party, they will be covering their own asses leaving me to die, lol. That's how it is everywhere else.

I can't comment more than that without actually playing ranked here, but I guess I just want to avoid the negative experiences. I hear the matchmaking is even worse in ranked and I rather not go through that as a solo q.

[{Cheburashka-->]

Please make the opening of the rating from level 30-40. It's impossible to play at low ranks when your team is full of players who play the game on the first day. they spoil the gaming experience.

[JohnRocket]

Personally, there is no point in playing ranked for me. Because there is no distribution by abilities. The game has a very small player base because of this, ranked games are a game of "Will you meet a group or will you be thrown against the same loners."

It is simply morally painful for me to play ranked games when people in this rating do not want to learn anything, they just run straight and die and so you play in a casino, will you be lucky with your team or not. It is one thing when something like this happens in a popular game. Another thing is when the game has 7000-9000 online at its peak and all this online is spread across all servers.

EU servers are completely dead. Because of which there is no one to play with and any game without 1-2 more people in the team is a mockery of mental health.

Well, I'll also note the fact that since the game doesn't encourage playing alone, any group of 2-3+ people will always be better than one "Good player", of course, if that person isn't 10 heads higher in abilities.

Since random people "Just play", which means simply pressing a button and trying to kill at least someone. When a team can act in a coordinated manner and 2 people will always do more than one. Since someone like "carry" can simply be focused.

Well, yes, you can see perfectly well what is on the streams, what is in the game. Regardless of the rank. All games are played in one direction. And the winner is the one who has a "Group" in the team or the one who is this group.

[UTube/theweeblounge]

I hate Demolition mode, with a passion. Used to play it competitively wayyyy back in Medal of Honor, CoD1, and CoD2. It's the same thing over and over and over with slightly different mechanics. Just plain sick of it. So I don't play ranked or challenge for that mode.

Now if mentioned previously they put Escort in ranked, I'd be more motivated to play it. Even a ranked TDM with a standard 6v6 or similar. The 5 teams of 3 for the current TDM is ok to blow off steam, but way too chaotic. (most deaths are getting shot in the back due to spawns....that's not fun either)

Considering some of the weekly quests require playing Demo, I've sucked it up and played some rounds to get them, but the last 2 weeklys I just threw my hands up....don't care. I hate being "forced" to play modes I don't find fun.

[JohnRocket]

Anyway, I'll write here, because I'm still surprised. Today I had a game where I played against one diamond 4, two platinum 4, one gold 1 and maybe one more gold.
Our team consisted of three silver 1, one gold 1 and one gold 4.

Actually, the question is: What the hell?

Well, maybe we'll mix superstrings with silvers? Why not. I'm not sure that all these guys weren't in a group of 3+ people.

Do we need any more explanations why people don't want to play in the rating? Maybe it's easier to remove these silvers, golds, diamonds and just make numbers? Anyway, mathmaking doesn't pay attention to these ranks.

[Malamasala]

Publicado originalmente por JohnRocket:

Anyway, I'll write here, because I'm still surprised. Today I had a game where I played against one diamond 4, two platinum 4, one gold 1 and maybe one more gold.
Our team consisted of three silver 1, one gold 1 and one gold 4.

Actually, the question is: What the hell?

Well, maybe we'll mix superstrings with silvers? Why not. I'm not sure that all these guys weren't in a group of 3+ people.

Do we need any more explanations why people don't want to play in the rating? Maybe it's easier to remove these silvers, golds, diamonds and just make numbers? Anyway, mathmaking doesn't pay attention to these ranks.

I think the issue here is that people don't understand the system. The silver, gold etc. are just cosmetics for playing a lot. It is the same as your banner. If you see a blank banner, you can assume it is a new player. If it has other pictures and decorations, it is probably someone who played a while. But the fanciest banner does not mean the most skilled player.

[JohnRocket]

Publicado originalmente por Malamasala:

Publicado originalmente por JohnRocket:

Anyway, I'll write here, because I'm still surprised. Today I had a game where I played against one diamond 4, two platinum 4, one gold 1 and maybe one more gold.
Our team consisted of three silver 1, one gold 1 and one gold 4.

Actually, the question is: What the hell?

Well, maybe we'll mix superstrings with silvers? Why not. I'm not sure that all these guys weren't in a group of 3+ people.

Do we need any more explanations why people don't want to play in the rating? Maybe it's easier to remove these silvers, golds, diamonds and just make numbers? Anyway, mathmaking doesn't pay attention to these ranks.

I think the issue here is that people don't understand the system. The silver, gold etc. are just cosmetics for playing a lot. It is the same as your banner. If you see a blank banner, you can assume it is a new player. If it has other pictures and decorations, it is probably someone who played a while. But the fanciest banner does not mean the most skilled player.

It's ranked, bruh

[Malamasala]

Publicado originalmente por JohnRocket:

Publicado originalmente por Malamasala:

I think the issue here is that people don't understand the system. The silver, gold etc. are just cosmetics for playing a lot. It is the same as your banner. If you see a blank banner, you can assume it is a new player. If it has other pictures and decorations, it is probably someone who played a while. But the fanciest banner does not mean the most skilled player.

It's ranked, bruh

Ranked uses cryptic names for the ranks, which is why I assumed you meant normal challenge mode.

[JohnRocket]

Publicado originalmente por Malamasala:

Publicado originalmente por JohnRocket:

It's ranked, bruh

Ranked uses cryptic names for the ranks, which is why I assumed you meant normal challenge mode.

It's still silvers,golds and plats.

[Val]

In other games, I mainly play ranked but here I stick to challenge only.
- TDM is the best suited for the mechnics and movement of game imo. It is fast paced and you can carry if you are good even if you get a bad team. Arena and Payload are also dynamic enough modes.
- Demolition seems like a complete opposite. Slow paced, tactical, too much reliance on teammates. Feels like a completely different game. It doesn't help that it is the only ranked mode. Pemade teams seems to be a huge issue too and is going to get bigger with player counts going lower.

I am guessing the game was build around Demolition mode but it just doesn't feel that way to me (or at least that is not were the fun of the game is)

[Flariz]

I never got the feeling the game was built around any particular game mode. It's why I have been waiting a PvE game mode since literally Beta.

And don't stop there. Add capture the flag, Gun Game, search and destroy or whatever.

It's already been shown they can adjust the agent's abilities/ult to just be banned If it doesn't fit the gamemode. I don't see why not, at least for Challenge mode. Maybe add a ranked version of the gamemode in question that's more serious.

[CD]

I can only play Challenge mode which typically results in being matched with people who have no clue what they're doing because there's 0 actual matchmaking and you just get matched with random people.

However, I can't play ranked because Latin America and North America are matched together resulting in me having teammates speaking in a language that I don't understand and getting a 160ms ping that causes me to take damage after moving behind cover which is infuriating.

I would love to play Ranked for a slightly better matchmaking experience, but I can't with the current chance of being matched with Latin America players.

[OmegaBilly1]

Challenge mode is like a casual mode. Where you're rewarded for playing the game and aren't punished for simply being bad at it sometimes.

Ranked is literally the opposite. You are rewarded of a promise of a reward... but at the risk of never being able to getting that reward.
Doesn't help the fact that you're also putting others down just for your own gain causing a vicious cycle of people hating for being better at the game than them which also makes it pretty volatile if any average person tries to play ranked.
If you're trying to go pro that's fine. I ain't stopping you from getting good to the point where no one wants to play with you cause it ain't fun getting stomped by you.
All I have to say is that I hope you didn't commit most of your life simply to get good at a tournament level because it's greatly disheartening to realize that skill is only good if some people are willing to acknowledge your efforts.

I know I may have gone into a tangent but that's what happens if you try to have a ranked mode. You're going to have people be in a vicious cycle with others trying to one up each other constantly till their goal is reached.
I don't intend to get good at a ranked level but i'm willing to get good just enough where I hope that I don't let down my team since this is a team game. If one doesn't pull their weight it'll hurt the team in the long run.
I played a lot of Team Fortress 2 and believe me it isn't fun to multi task when your team is failing and when you're the only one competent enough to do something about it... only to fall and fail horribly with style.

If anything I'm just waiting for the introduction of more modes to play because the game's fun but with only having technically 3 modes (Team arena and TDM are a variation of one another.) It's going to get stale eventually so I hope more gamemodes are introduced in the future.

Maybe a PvE mode perhaps? Since I don't think most anime fans... want to become sweaty tryhards. Since most of them just want to chill and have fun with their friends while discussing who they like in this game. It's just my personal opinion but you gotta cater to some audiences otherwise you'll cater to no one. You can try to do both but that is going to take a very tough and long thing to do.

Hope my feedback helps!

[Afangun]

Publicado originalmente por OmegaBilly1:

Challenge mode is like a casual mode. Where you're rewarded for playing the game and aren't punished for simply being bad at it sometimes.

Ranked is literally the opposite. You are rewarded of a promise of a reward... but at the risk of never being able to getting that reward.
Doesn't help the fact that you're also putting others down just for your own gain causing a vicious cycle of people hating for being better at the game than them which also makes it pretty volatile if any average person tries to play ranked.
If you're trying to go pro that's fine. I ain't stopping you from getting good to the point where no one wants to play with you cause it ain't fun getting stomped by you.
All I have to say is that I hope you didn't commit most of your life simply to get good at a tournament level because it's greatly disheartening to realize that skill is only good if some people are willing to acknowledge your efforts.

I know I may have gone into a tangent but that's what happens if you try to have a ranked mode. You're going to have people be in a vicious cycle with others trying to one up each other constantly till their goal is reached.
I don't intend to get good at a ranked level but i'm willing to get good just enough where I hope that I don't let down my team since this is a team game. If one doesn't pull their weight it'll hurt the team in the long run.
I played a lot of Team Fortress 2 and believe me it isn't fun to multi task when your team is failing and when you're the only one competent enough to do something about it... only to fall and fail horribly with style.

If anything I'm just waiting for the introduction of more modes to play because the game's fun but with only having technically 3 modes (Team arena and TDM are a variation of one another.) It's going to get stale eventually so I hope more gamemodes are introduced in the future.

Maybe a PvE mode perhaps? Since I don't think most anime fans... want to become sweaty tryhards. Since most of them just want to chill and have fun with their friends while discussing who they like in this game. It's just my personal opinion but you gotta cater to some audiences otherwise you'll cater to no one. You can try to do both but that is going to take a very tough and long thing to do.

Hope my feedback helps!

ok, what do people who don’t understand how to play this game expect when they start ranked?
the very name ranked already means that people are putting their rank on the line here, so they are trying to win by all means so as not to lose the points they have achieved
people who do not know how to play have come to where they should not be and instead of blaming themselves for the wrong decision, they insult those who are better and even blame the game.
they are not interested in playing with those who are better than them
the same thing for me, I’m not interested in playing with those who don’t even understand obvious and basic things
if you think that challenge is the opposite side of ranked
you will be right and at the same time wrong
yes, in the challenge you really don’t lose anything and you can relax, but that doesn’t mean that those who are still better than you don’t play the challenge
and what happens to those who don’t know how to play? they get angry and complain again
some people even get angry at solo games when they can't pass a certain level and they start blaming the game and the developers and instead of just thinking about what they are doing wrong and analyzing their mistakes, they simply close the game in rage and delete it
they do not understand that people do not stand still every day and become better and better by looking at others and learning from mistakes
people who want to get everything easily without making any effort are worse than casuals
I'm sad to see what the gaming community is becoming

my advice for those who don’t want to get better and learn the mechanics of the game
It's better for you to just stop playing shooters if you value your nerves

[JohnRocket]

Publicado originalmente por OmegaBilly1:

Challenge mode is like a casual mode. Where you're rewarded for playing the game and aren't punished for simply being bad at it sometimes.

Ranked is literally the opposite. You are rewarded of a promise of a reward... but at the risk of never being able to getting that reward.
Doesn't help the fact that you're also putting others down just for your own gain causing a vicious cycle of people hating for being better at the game than them which also makes it pretty volatile if any average person tries to play ranked.
If you're trying to go pro that's fine. I ain't stopping you from getting good to the point where no one wants to play with you cause it ain't fun getting stomped by you.
All I have to say is that I hope you didn't commit most of your life simply to get good at a tournament level because it's greatly disheartening to realize that skill is only good if some people are willing to acknowledge your efforts.

I know I may have gone into a tangent but that's what happens if you try to have a ranked mode. You're going to have people be in a vicious cycle with others trying to one up each other constantly till their goal is reached.
I don't intend to get good at a ranked level but i'm willing to get good just enough where I hope that I don't let down my team since this is a team game. If one doesn't pull their weight it'll hurt the team in the long run.
I played a lot of Team Fortress 2 and believe me it isn't fun to multi task when your team is failing and when you're the only one competent enough to do something about it... only to fall and fail horribly with style.

If anything I'm just waiting for the introduction of more modes to play because the game's fun but with only having technically 3 modes (Team arena and TDM are a variation of one another.) It's going to get stale eventually so I hope more gamemodes are introduced in the future.

Maybe a PvE mode perhaps? Since I don't think most anime fans... want to become sweaty tryhards. Since most of them just want to chill and have fun with their friends while discussing who they like in this game. It's just my personal opinion but you gotta cater to some audiences otherwise you'll cater to no one. You can try to do both but that is going to take a very tough and long thing to do.

Hope my feedback helps!

RN you didn't get punish for being bad in ranked. Skill in Atom and Neutron for example, are pretty the same, mb Neutron is just a little bit have better aim.
And that problem of "Group gaming" where people grouping with others and the better person boosting others. It's terrible.

The whole ranked it's just grind mode rn, there no separate on skill, it's just luck, do you have booster\group in your team or not. If not - you get spreaded 9\1 or 9\5. "Close games" in my opinion is less than 5%. (for 80+ games in ranked i have only one or two this kind of games.)

I won't even mention that regardless of rank, one game can be super easy, you can literally play with your heel, and another one is such a sweat, but you will still lose dry. And there is no such "Balance"