Chef Medal BUG

[MishaXG]

Chef Medals doesnt work properly with Relic Use or if it works like that then it s the worst tooltip i ever seen in my life.

Chef Medals => ''''On perfect dodge, automactically trigger effects that require Relic Use to activate.''
Tormented Hearth Relic => ''On use, deals X Explosive Damage to ennemies and so on...''

In any ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ language ''Relic Use'' = ''On use'' (when it s on a Relic)
Worst part is that Chef Medals triggers Empathy (tested it yesterday), when the description of Empathy is clear:

''Empathy: Heals whenever the player uses a relic to heal.''

So when i use Worm Hole to trigger perfect Dodge with Tormented Hearth, it doesnt trigger Tormented Hearth but it manage to trigger Empathy? Wtf?

At this point Chef Medal should just trigger the ''On Use'' effects on Relics... which just seems kind of logic when you see everything needed to trigger Perfect Dodge and the few options there are as Rings. (and ofc the tooltips and how it works with Empathy)

Either way something has to be done, for Empathy which shouldnt be activated by Chef Medal OR for Chef Medal that should trigger ''On Use'' effect on a Relic.
If it s supposed to work like that, then something should be done about the descriptions and specify clearly (Not working on ''On Use'' Relic effects)

[Grimzy]

"On Perfect Dodge, automatically trigger effects that require Relic Use to activate. (Note that the effects of the relic itself are not triggered, nor is it consumed)."

Meaning it will not trigger the explosion but will trigger the heal, that is why Empathy is triggered because it triggers the relics heal, but any other effect it will not.

[MishaXG]

Originally posted by Grimzy:

"On Perfect Dodge, automatically trigger effects that require Relic Use to activate. (Note that the effects of the relic itself are not triggered, nor is it consumed)."

Meaning it will not trigger the explosion but will trigger the heal, that is why Empathy is triggered because it triggers the relics heal, but any other effect it will not.

That makes no sense at all especially with Tormented Heart

Innate 20% Use Speed bonus. On use, deals 240 Explosive damage to enemies within 10m and Lifesteals 25% of damage dealt.

On it s own the amulet gives no heal at all. The only heal it gives i Lifesteal from the damage of the explosion. So if there s no explosion, there s no heal, as it s tide to the damage.

0 damage = 0 heal

It s like using the relic without hitting something = 0 heal.

[LT2483]

It activates effects that have the trigger of "When you use a relic", which includes skills, rings, and more. It doesn't use the relic. No relic charge is consumed, and the active effect of the relic doesn't occur.

That said, I'm pretty sure it activating Empathy on enemies is a bug. From the description, the medal activating is what should happen, but people (reasonably) complained about that, so the devs stopped it from working with Empathy (patch on the 17 of Oct last year). If it's still doing so for you, try verifying your game files, that may fix it.

[MishaXG]

Np if it really works like that then it s one of the worst amulet in the game anyway... no point to take this one when you can have tons of better stats with other things.
Still weird if it s supposed to be like that but well np

No file problem so i guess the bug just came back in a way or another...

thanks for answer