Anguish weapons - how to ruin fun in game

[^7ja^1co]

Could you think of a more fun breaking way to get a gun? having to re roll and re run? rng rolls again, come on devs, falling review scores on base game and dlc - is that what you need to get the message people hate this way of obtaining weapons which are then a bit mid in most cases (not to mention the stuff you nerfed)

[Jeris]

Originally posted by ^7ja^1co:

Originally posted by The Ultimate Despair:

The replayability lies in the fact that yes, you will roll the same map with slight changes, but you will find new loot, events and dungeons that each also have their separate sets of items and events.
Remnant absolutely harkens back to an old game design ideology that made the player want to explore and discover, a lot of what you can do feels old school. Its great in my opinion.

Most players won't be able to finish the highest difficulty levels or reach the hard coded data mined info to get all classes, not all weapons will be available to them...whats the point of them paying for a game where weapons are locked because they are not a super veteran expert?
You mention new loot, 90% of it is just ring fest...

You are right. After i pay i should just get everything. I'd hate to have to play the game as intended. What a terrible take.

[Mutant1988]

I don't think the people arguing against the OP have even read up what the steps to get Anguish are.

It's 10 steps, you can't die once throughout and you might have to re-roll adventure mode 4 times for specific starts (Losomn/The Awakening King to get Ethereal Manor, Yaesha Red Throne, Ne'erud Forgotten Prison, Losomn Morrow Parish) and play through a significant chunk of Ne'erud and Losomn.

Now, this wouldn't be too unreasonable (If still ridiculously obtuse) if it weren't for the no death stipulation.

https://remnant2.wiki.fextralife.com/Anguish

[Sgt.JESUS]

Well the cant die part is avoidable if you only talk to him at the ward after clearing the worlds. I tried to find the gun again, got the manor at the morrow parish but the next worlds where Ravager and Sha Hala.
I scoured Yeasha trying to find him near the Ravager or maybe at the very start like in the red queen world, no luck, i think the guy in the youtube video was right, he only shows in yeasha red queen and Tal Rhata Nerud.

[Sono]

Originally posted by Mutant1988:

I don't think the people arguing against the OP have even read up what the steps to get Anguish are.

It's 10 steps, you can't die once throughout and you might have to re-roll adventure mode 4 times for specific starts (Losomn/The Awakening King to get Ethereal Manor, Yaesha Red Throne, Ne'erud Forgotten Prison, Losomn Morrow Parish) and play through a significant chunk of Ne'erud and Losomn.

Now, this wouldn't be too unreasonable (If still ridiculously obtuse) if it weren't for the no death stipulation.

https://remnant2.wiki.fextralife.com/Anguish

Bingo, and the weapon itself is very mediocre, so all that for something with worse damage than what you already have. Needs a huge buff.

[Nakaris]

Yeah runing a whole campaign and starting a adventure for the maps you miss is so antifun.
Total effort of 3 hrs for a whole cmapaign and meddows assylum adventure run.



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Dont know what your problem is but we will wait for you on the beach to the ocean of salty tears

[^7ja^1co]

Originally posted by Jeris:

Originally posted by ^7ja^1co:

Most players won't be able to finish the highest difficulty levels or reach the hard coded data mined info to get all classes, not all weapons will be available to them...whats the point of them paying for a game where weapons are locked because they are not a super veteran expert?
You mention new loot, 90% of it is just ring fest...

You are right. After i pay i should just get everything. I'd hate to have to play the game as intended. What a terrible take.

You are comparing access to what you paid for vs game where little weapons are available and a lot of them are hidden behind either high level difficulty or horribly rng crazy steps that an average player won't even realise exists...

Like devs you don't understand what makes a good content - that's not me saying, that's the review scores talking, main game has dropped and DLC has now drop even more to 59%...you should read people's comments.

[Sgt.JESUS]

Ok the whole thing is easier now with the guy showing up at the adventures, same spots and all. The sad thing is you can only use the dream once, doesnt work again like nimues dream or huntress, i love throwing that in the ground and teleporting people to the dream. Tried with the second dram dream and i got and nothing, just the green smoke.

[DaxiraxJr]

I've played through the game multiple times. I enjoy the game enough to run through all the events again and again. This is not an issue for me.

[Sgt.JESUS]

So dumb me used the dran dream in a game with someone who didnt had the DLC, worked this time around, so use with friedns and save them the trouble of finding this bastard.

[DoremianCleff]

Just because you think you are entitled to something, doesn't mean you deserve to get it.
Put up time and work if you need the items you want.

Also you should go check out interviews and podcasts with Ben Cureton, one of the developers. They never ought to make a game for everyone. They were making game that they themselves would enjoy playing. And they did a bloody great job. If i remember correctly, at one point he even said that if someone told them they didn't like a part of the game, they respond with "Well, too bad. Hope you like the other parts better".

And honestly, i feel like you can do it in a single sitting. Roll campaign with Losomn as first world, locate Mannor, complete the run up untill the Earth, then go to Mannor and initiate the sequence. If you play it on survival, i don't see how you'll die, unless you are avoiding using all the available tools on purpose.

[NeonBaron]

LMAO what a troll, the out of the way loot is some of the most fun. If anything they heard people's complaints about items requiring campaign rerolls and allowed anguish to be gotten through adventure rerolls which is a huge win.
It is still easier to get anguish than items like the tormented heart, or nightweaver's grudge.
If every item required something so complex that would be one thing but it is only one item and it is a fun like getting the archon class or unlocking the typwriter

[Dusklite]

I don't think I'm entitled to get that gun. I just skip it because of tedium and having to look everything up.
If it was anything like the Archon, I'd at least have some of the things required lying around by just playing. And it'd be somewhat useful.

This? No thanks.

Just because you think this is good game design doesn't mean it actually is.

It's more of an easter egg or something for the intrepid secret hunters from what I've gathered.
Now that it is found it has become just a hassle and will get on the nerves of completionists if you ask me. Which you didn't. Here's my $0.02 anyway.