The Boss-Rush created the "Agents of Mayhem" problem.

[Billy Blaze]

After getting my very first rewards from this mode, I said to my gf: "Well, now there is absolutely no reason to play anything else anymore.".
Yeah yeah, I can see that not every single thing is a reward in this mode, since there are Hardcore rewards that might be locked.

But I get just amulets, rings, mutators, weapons and enough corrupted shards to create a corrupted weapon, only for the next bossrush to drop the base weapon again.
I was going to play Yaesha next in order to get "Merciless".
Well... now I just got it randomly, so that plan just flew outta the window.
Or I destroyed the weapon of "The One True King" by accident and only got his melee weapon.
Checked online if the firearm is worth doing this fight again... only to notice that it's already in my inventory.

And it's the same problem as with "Agents of Mayhem", cause there are respawning chests everyhwere with random rewards.
These rewards are sometimes super rare upgrade materials or rewards for side-missions.
So... no reason to do these missions anymore if I can just go around and open re-appearing boxes.

I don't know how much is left outta this mode, but when it comes to boss-rewards and stuff you just find in the maps, there is no reason to chase them anymore.
But hey, at least from all dumb design decisions in this game, this one is at least rewarding for the player.

[Noop]

You only get boss weapons and random drops in the boss rush.

[Billy Blaze]

Originally posted by Noop:

You only get boss weapons and random drops in the boss rush.

Originally posted by Billy Blaze:

but when it comes to boss-rewards and stuff you just find in the maps, there is no reason to chase them anymore.

[Grizzly]

as the guy above mentioned, any guaranteed ring / amulet drops wont be in there, and to also mention... wouldnt it get insanely boring to only play the same thing over and over? just play something else for the sake of something else lol

Originally posted by Billy Blaze:

but when it comes to boss-rewards and stuff you just find in the maps, there is no reason to chase them anymore.

for boss drops, the guarantee gives you a reason, for random drops, the higher chance gives you a reason, because it is more likely to get the drops on the normal maps if you look for specific ones. I should know, i start a new character all the time so i need to grab the stuff again and again

[Billy Blaze]

Originally posted by Grizzly:

wouldnt it get insanely boring to only play the same thing over and over? just play something else for the sake of something else lol

Yeah... leave it to me when it comes to deciding what I find boring or not.
I mean, it could be said about the whole game.
"Isn't it boring shooting all the time? Just play a turn-based RPG for the sake of something else. ... ... lol......"

[Grizzly]

Originally posted by Billy Blaze:

Originally posted by Grizzly:

wouldnt it get insanely boring to only play the same thing over and over? just play something else for the sake of something else lol

Yeah... leave it to me when it comes to deciding what I find boring or not.
I mean, it could be said about the whole game.
"Isn't it boring shooting all the time? Just play a turn-based RPG for the sake of something else. ... ... lol......"

alright so whats the issue? "I got too much fun in that one mode, change it!"?

[Evil_mastermind1]

BR does not give puzzle loot like thorn or fay knight armour, does not give quest items like the override pin to give the Nightweaver web or Sparky. You have to do campain or adventure for those.

[Kappa]

You probably misunderstood boss rush.
It's an alternative mode that provides a "different challenge" and an easier way to grind xp ( and more important, corrupted shards ).

You won't get anything zone/puzzle/quest related, so, if you want something specific, you'll have to play adventure ( or even campaign, for some items requiring 2 worlds/biomes in the same campaign ).

Finally, boss rush difficulty is easier than adventure/campaign in the same difficulty, so this is pheraphs the reason there's nothing to do ( because DLC content apart, Gunfire failed to provide a challenging endgame. Prism is not required as one can already stomp every single boss no matterwhat ).

But knowing this, unless being compulsive and feel the urge to do achievements, get perfect prisms or unlock all items in the whole game, one can just keep playing until they have fun, and then move on a different game

[Billy Blaze]

Originally posted by Evil_mastermind1:

BR does not give puzzle loot like thorn or fay knight armour, does not give quest items like the override pin to give the Nightweaver web or Sparky. You have to do campain or adventure for those.

Yes, I know.

Again with "Agents of Mayhem", in order to unlock more chars, you have to play the game normally.
But still, many rewards for activities are just lying around in chests.

I mean, aren't people complaining about the alt kill for the Nightweaver?
Now you just get the weapon randomly.

[Billy Blaze]

Originally posted by Kappa:

You probably misunderstood boss rush.
It's an alternative mode that provides a "different challenge" and an easier way to grind xp ( and more important, corrupted shards ).

You won't get anything zone/puzzle/quest related, so, if you want something specific, you'll have to play adventure ( or even campaign, for some items requiring 2 worlds/biomes in the same campaign ).

Finally, boss rush difficulty is easier than adventure/campaign in the same difficulty, so this is pheraphs the reason there's nothing to do ( because DLC content apart, Gunfire failed to provide a challenging endgame. Prism is not required as one can already stomp every single boss no matterwhat ).

But knowing this, unless being compulsive and feel the urge to do achievements, get perfect prisms or unlock all items in the whole game, one can just keep playing until they have fun, and then move on a different game

I understand the Boss-Rush very well... I just don't understand why we get random regional rewards and boss weapon from it.
It would have been more organic to have a chance of a boss mutator and/or weapon after defeating a boss the reward belongs to.
But obtaining some hard-to-get stuff just randomly as a reward is really weird.

I mean, it's cool and all, it's always a nice surprise after finishing a run.
It just makes parts of the game more uninteresting and less appealing.

[Kappa]

Hard to get stuff? In remnant 2?

It's just a mere time sink with no difficulty involved ( there's nothing hard to get stuff that I am aware of ).

edit: The worst that may happen is to clear veteran hardcore and the game bugs and doesn't give savior as reward ( It happened to me, but I am talking about september 2023... so hopefully it's fixed. but even getting savior from veteran hc is just a mere timesink, as it can be exploitable with coop ).

[Billy Blaze]

Originally posted by Kappa:

Hard to get stuff? In remnant 2?

It's just a mere time sink with no difficulty involved ( there's nothing hard to get stuff that I am aware of ).

People complaining in droves about the alt kill of the Nightweaver.

[Kappa]

Originally posted by Billy Blaze:

Originally posted by Kappa:

Hard to get stuff? In remnant 2?

It's just a mere time sink with no difficulty involved ( there's nothing hard to get stuff that I am aware of ).

People complaining in droves about the alt kill of the Nightweaver.

Even assuming that one to be difficult ( which is not, as it doesn't involve a specific difficult to make the kill ).

- People complained ( some are still )about the labirinth sentinel and annihilation.

- Some others are still complaining about Bruin and Dullain because of their telegraphed one shot moves.

- Recently, someone even complained about lydusa dps check.

If we were to listen to complaints, remnant 2 would be a so damn difficult game... but truth is it's not, and what a player needs to unlock stuff is just time ( and save guardian if the play on pc ). It wasn't hard back then after apocalypse nerfs, and it's no hard now with the load of powercreep ( more trait points, better items/weapons, etc... ), even without considering the prism system ( a ton of extra powercreep ).