Burden of Audacious

[Mister Sir]

Been using this thing for a while but got some conflicting info on it. So it says it heals 25% on perfect dodge but reduces all healing by 50%

1) Does healing effectiveness boost that 25% or not? It's kinda hard to test really.

2) Does it reduce healing from relic only or all healing like life steal, health regen, etc? It does says all healing but I saw some conflicting info online.

3) Can you boost that rings healing with life steal and such? Like lets say profane heart gives 3% passive life steal, so does that apply to things like burden of destroyer explosions you get on perfect dodge?

[Monke-Cat]

I started using it since I got the legendary perk that every dodge counts as perfect dodge
From my experience it doesn't interfere with lifesteal but significantly reduces any other source of health regen like the regrowth trait and tranquil heart .
But if You have it on You really don't need any other sources of healing tho !
I don't even spend any trait points on Lifesteal or Leech but this ring alone combined with that legendary perk has better survivability and health regen compared to those traits and relics , it only takes one ring slot , You could swap Your relic for something like the Void heart as well
If You're using it without the legendary perk it's more situational , You have to be at light or medium weight class to be able to dodge perfectly and even then when You got hit and need the healing You better pray it didn't stagger You or pushed to ground ; Kind of makes it useless
With the perk tho it's a different senario You can be tanky , take most of hits to the face then refill your health with a backdash

[Evil-Striker]

I believe that life steal is treated as a different category than "healing", so its not affected by healing effectiveness. The same thing goes for grey life regeneration.

[Mister Sir]

Originally posted by Evil-Striker:

I believe that life steal is treated as a different category than "healing", so its not affected by healing effectiveness. The same thing goes for grey life regeneration.

Thats what I thought too cause there are lifesteal traits so it would not make much sense if it benefited from both.

Also I do not have hard proof but it looks like healing effectiveness does not affect burden of audacious heal.

During some testing I ran into some real odd discovery. I tried to do face tank build with crisis core and perfect dodge rings. Had leto mark 1 on me and it just would not cut it on apocalypse. For one the damage taken that triggers crisis core has to be to hp and not shield, so warden was not really a good option for what I wanted to do. Idk how do people made it work in those vid where they take no dmg at all, my build really only lacked tranquil heart but I really did not allow me to face tank everything.

Whats even stranger is that once I swapped back to my usual radiant armor set, which has like 30+ less armor or so, I somehow took less damage from same mobs than I did wearing full leto 1 set. That I really can't even explain, all I did is armor swap, rings stayed the same.

[Mister Sir]

Originally posted by The Restless Ghost:

I started using it since I got the legendary perk that every dodge counts as perfect dodge
From my experience it doesn't interfere with lifesteal but significantly reduces any other source of health regen like the regrowth trait and tranquil heart .
But if You have it on You really don't need any other sources of healing tho !
I don't even spend any trait points on Lifesteal or Leech but this ring alone combined with that legendary perk has better survivability and health regen compared to those traits and relics , it only takes one ring slot , You could swap Your relic for something like the Void heart as well
If You're using it without the legendary perk it's more situational , You have to be at light or medium weight class to be able to dodge perfectly and even then when You got hit and need the healing You better pray it didn't stagger You or pushed to ground ; Kind of makes it useless
With the perk tho it's a different senario You can be tanky , take most of hits to the face then refill your health with a backdash

Don't have legendary perk, just running the ring with feedback loop and mark of destroyer. The aoe explosions are okish vs normal mobs and I might just stick to feedback loop eventually + burden of audacious. It's been pretty good so far, I have it paired with quilted heart, so I pop that for infinite stamina and roll spam if I am in stick situation. Also invader skills just give me free heals. Not really able to do full tank build, does not seem to really work on apoic. Tried full leto 1 with all dodge rings and crisis core and it just does not cut it at all, plus super ♥♥♥♥ vs anything but ground mobs, borderline a waste vs bosses. Whats even stranger is that once I swapped back to radiant set (much lower armor than leto 1 obviously) I took less damage from mobs than I did while wearing leto 1.

[Monke-Cat]

Something must be off with your build , If I put a full leto MK1 which is unnecessary I wouldn't worry about getting hit except for a few attacks that I know have stagger and follow ups like that ravager's 3 hit combo or sunken witch or shocking abberations
Leto MK2 with Strong back & Fortify would be enough DR to get You through out most senarios at apocalypse
Invader's skill is also a good idea if you don't want to use the legendary
It goes hand in hand with chef amulet and redeemer side arm , it basically gives you infinite amount of relic charges with all the archetype relic buffs