whats your go to weapons early game?

[Grizzly]

i had a hard time to find something id like that is not RNG to get and thats not the LMG lmao
by now i unlocked the starkiller and its actually a very good rifle so i stick to that. as secondary usually the SMG from the Summoner as it can be found early and is not RNG if you dont start summoner, and while its not that great, its pretty nice for the early game as i usually end up taking an RNG secondary at some point

Melee i actually just switch depending what looks best atm most of the time

[Rod, of eight toes]

Cilutan, it sounds like you don't yet have the rights rings and/or amulet to make the plasma cutter shine. There are things that provide buffs to weapons which can overheat.

[Empukris]

Blackmaw, that 1 shot handgun, after that follow by enigma. Enigma is utterly broken in this game, completely broken a few fight when you need to control adds.

[Grizzly]

Originally posted by Empukris:

Blackmaw, that 1 shot handgun, after that follow by enigma. Enigma is utterly broken in this game, completely broken a few fight when you need to control adds.

enigma is highly overrated. is it good? yea, is it top 10 weapons? yeah, is it top 5? nope.
while it has the upside of a status effect, and is able to hit multiple targets at once, its DPS is pretty bad compared to other weapons and it has only 12 meters of range. without any buffs, you will fall off strong even against mob enemies while only having a very short range and a weapon mod thats only semi useful compared to something like Hot shot.

so the real reason people think that the enigma is so strong, is that they suck at buffing and building around other guns and with aiming, as thats something the enigma takes away too.

an example for an extremly good secondary is star shot, and thats even already the case without buffing its explosion dmg. just taking the amulet detonation trigger is already enugh to make it oneshot your average mob enemy with a 10 mag and an extremely high range. there is nothing you can do to make the enigma that much stronger with the use of just one slot, as the average enigma build uses multiple rings AND an amulet to buff it. the closest you could get to that is the Energized Neck Coil but that one just ups the dmg, range is still at 12.

[Empukris]

Originally posted by Grizzly:

Originally posted by Empukris:

Blackmaw, that 1 shot handgun, after that follow by enigma. Enigma is utterly broken in this game, completely broken a few fight when you need to control adds.

enigma is highly overrated. is it good? yea, is it top 10 weapons? yeah, is it top 5? nope.
while it has the upside of a status effect, and is able to hit multiple targets at once, its DPS is pretty bad compared to other weapons and it has only 12 meters of range. without any buffs, you will fall off strong even against mob enemies while only having a very short range and a weapon mod thats only semi useful compared to something like Hot shot.

so the real reason people think that the enigma is so strong, is that they suck at buffing and building around other guns and with aiming, as thats something the enigma takes away too.

an example for an extremly good secondary is star shot, and thats even already the case without buffing its explosion dmg. just taking the amulet detonation trigger is already enugh to make it oneshot your average mob enemy with a 10 mag and an extremely high range. there is nothing you can do to make the enigma that much stronger with the use of just one slot, as the average enigma build uses multiple rings AND an amulet to buff it. the closest you could get to that is the Energized Neck Coil but that one just ups the dmg, range is still at 12.

It is not the best min max weapon if that what you are trying to say and it is not performing as good at higher difficulty like apo when i tried it or when you need to kill things faster. But it is those kind of braindead weapon that can aim 3 enemy at the same time. For crowd control it is easily in top 3 if you max it correctly. It is this kind of braindead weapon that is popular. On nightmare and below you can use this weapon almost on every boss that you can hit within range and doing so almost can make you ignore all those adds they carried. I mean there is reason why it is the most used weapon in this game.

[Grizzly]

Originally posted by Empukris:

Originally posted by Grizzly:

enigma is highly overrated. is it good? yea, is it top 10 weapons? yeah, is it top 5? nope.
while it has the upside of a status effect, and is able to hit multiple targets at once, its DPS is pretty bad compared to other weapons and it has only 12 meters of range. without any buffs, you will fall off strong even against mob enemies while only having a very short range and a weapon mod thats only semi useful compared to something like Hot shot.

so the real reason people think that the enigma is so strong, is that they suck at buffing and building around other guns and with aiming, as thats something the enigma takes away too.

an example for an extremly good secondary is star shot, and thats even already the case without buffing its explosion dmg. just taking the amulet detonation trigger is already enugh to make it oneshot your average mob enemy with a 10 mag and an extremely high range. there is nothing you can do to make the enigma that much stronger with the use of just one slot, as the average enigma build uses multiple rings AND an amulet to buff it. the closest you could get to that is the Energized Neck Coil but that one just ups the dmg, range is still at 12.

It is not the best min max weapon if that what you are trying to say and it is not performing as good at higher difficulty like apo when i tried it or when you need to kill things faster. But it is those kind of braindead weapon that can aim 3 enemy at the same time. For crowd control it is easily in top 3 if you max it correctly. It is this kind of braindead weapon that is popular. On nightmare and below you can use this weapon almost on every boss that you can hit within range and doing so almost can make you ignore all those adds they carried. I mean there is reason why it is the most used weapon in this game.

the most used weapon in elden ring is also an overrated weapon, thats the reason xD

again, if you can just aim good, the multi hit just isnt worth the range falloff. use a mod or skill if you want to do AoE that big and it would work out too, like star shots mod for example

[Empukris]

Originally posted by Grizzly:

the most used weapon in elden ring is also an overrated weapon, thats the reason xD

again, if you can just aim good, the multi hit just isnt worth the range falloff. use a mod or skill if you want to do AoE that big and it would work out too, like star shots mod for example

Thats the thing XD. You dont need to aim with enigma, i though so when i see monarch, i max it almost immediately only to realise it is bad. Enigma is the most boring weapon however, after 3rd world reroll i dont want to use it anymore but braindead weapon is like a drug, the moment you get use to it, you cant quit.

[Grizzly]

Originally posted by Empukris:

Originally posted by Grizzly:

the most used weapon in elden ring is also an overrated weapon, thats the reason xD

again, if you can just aim good, the multi hit just isnt worth the range falloff. use a mod or skill if you want to do AoE that big and it would work out too, like star shots mod for example

Thats the thing XD. You dont need to aim with enigma, i though so when i see monarch, i max it almost immediately only to realise it is bad. Enigma is the most boring weapon however, after 3rd world reroll i dont want to use it anymore but braindead weapon is like a drug, the moment you get use to it, you cant quit.

but that point is QoL, not really something youd call in for a good weapon. sure for your own pick if you have bad aim you can go for it, but adding that to the reason of it being a good weapon? that would be completly useless to me as i have no problems shooting heads of the people in losmn at any distance or moment, so why should i need a weapon that requires no aim?

when you rate a weapon you rate the objectively seen things on it, and not needing to aim being something that makes it better is not objectively

[Empukris]

Originally posted by Grizzly:

Originally posted by Empukris:

Thats the thing XD. You dont need to aim with enigma, i though so when i see monarch, i max it almost immediately only to realise it is bad. Enigma is the most boring weapon however, after 3rd world reroll i dont want to use it anymore but braindead weapon is like a drug, the moment you get use to it, you cant quit.

but that point is QoL, not really something youd call in for a good weapon. sure for your own pick if you have bad aim you can go for it, but adding that to the reason of it being a good weapon? that would be completly useless to me as i have no problems shooting heads of the people in losmn at any distance or moment, so why should i need a weapon that requires no aim?

when you rate a weapon you rate the objectively seen things on it, and not needing to aim being something that makes it better is not objectively

You can focus on dodging. Thats my main reason to use it. Not sure about others. Sure you can aim, dodge and shoot headshot probably you have that high of a skill. 5 enemy appear flying, boom.... all 5 dead in short period of time, all shotted at weakspot. You can aim a headshot 5 consecutively, most player playing any competitive shooter can do that. But not everyone have that background, I can do it occasionally but it is tiring and more attention on aiming means less attention on enemy movesets or pattern. You can offset that by playing tanks but I still prefer to dodge everything. Im souls like fan with occasionally playing pve shooter. So that kind of accuracy fast shooting play dont looks appealing to me. I mainly used hunting pistol in remnant 1 but not in remnant 2. Too lazy for that.

[SilverLight]

Service Pistol all the way. Medic starts with it, and it's just the right level of damage, fire rate, and accuracy. Blackmaw is a good primary if you aren't wanting to abuse the Bonesaw.

[Urazz]

Started as a Handler so I was using the Blackmaw first and then went with the Chicago Typewriter. Later on I was using the Nightfall and the Pulse Rifle. Now I'm mostly using the Sparkfire Shotgun, Crescent Moon bow, and Nightfall.

For secondary weapons, i generally use the Bolt Driver, MP60, or Enigma.

[Goblin King Jareth]

I did a good bit of testing between pulse rifle, plasma cutter, and monarch including at least one of the overheat devices, crit, and crit damage and other tricks I could think of like the mod weakspot. I wanted plasma to win too because I like the teched out style to go with leto II the best armor (sadly give us cosmetic/armor buff options :P)

Still need to try it with 2 overheat items but they are hard to fit in with other stuff and I feel monarch is just the best due to versatility alone, not to mention it's own damage, infinite ammo buff and aoe penetration qualities. It's damage pulled ahead of pulse easily, which is killed by the burst game and reloads, plasma more competitive for a single "clip" but plasma essentially has double reloads due to heat and ammo (should have just heat imo). Monarch's unique properties put it in S tier alone for around wall abuse, arcing on top of head, deleting minions and boss at the same time etc.

Primarily tested with twisting wounds mod as it seems the highest consistent damage add, also since I favor "all damage" build, dead simple to keep a 95% (anywhere from 100% to 80% all damage buff depending on monarch's tracking and buff statuses I believe) up all the time and 20 crit, 30 extra crit damage for 80 iirc.

Most bosses on nightmare are cake rn, for example eye of legion it is the perfect weapon, never having to look at the target. Huntress could not escape damage etc.

I DON'T like enigma due to the friendly fire and splashback issues, monarch is also highly precision when you want to ace things in tight corridors.

My backup is P60 with reload mod, just to feed ammo back into monarch at respectable damage rates with less reloads. Statis beam there, map elites are all a joke, freeze, harpoon, end all of them and their surrounding minions on monarch.

[Rod, of eight toes]

You might want to check out Pulse Rifle with Zania's Malice