Same guns everywhere..

[Tamminen]

Before DLC about 90% people was using Enigma and some long gun. Now about 90% use Enigma and Spark shotgun at first 2 difficulties. So game have some lack of diversity..

[Butcher]

Originally posted by 519B.:

Originally posted by Butcher:

If you mean turret it is kinda unreliable since ammo ends quickly. Challenger shotgun has fat damage with fast reload. Revolver has fat damage in range. Big ass sword has fat damage and AoE sweeps. Nothing in Ayyisha, Nayrude, Cubeworld and in London so far was better.

that is not what he meant, starting wepons do not = turret...

I have to finish game once before starting new one. Currently playing nighmare, second playthrough I plan to ignore archetypes and upgrades to finish game on 4th easiest with no enemy scaling.

[mudofNYnumber1]

Enigma, no matter how they weaken it, will always do well because of the chain. When you introduce targeted AoE in a game where almost everything hits only one thing, or at best within a small proximity, it tends to take control. It is always the ultimate weak trash clear.

Sparkfire's main draw is it is basically the same strength as Ford shotgun with faster reload, faster fire rate, and elemental damage. And it fills a huge void in elemental applying primary weapons. It has no downsides and it'll be popular until more alternatives are introduced. It's still not the best, but it provides a lot of utility at any level of investment.

[Xaelon]

Originally posted by mudofNYnumber1:

Sparkfire's main draw is it is basically the same strength as Ford shotgun with faster reload, faster fire rate, and elemental damage. And it fills a huge void in elemental applying primary weapons. It has no downsides and it'll be popular until more alternatives are introduced. It's still not the best, but it provides a lot of utility at any level of investment.

Yep 100% this ^

There are no other long guns with innate elemental damage OR that cause status effects with their primary fire. A lot of people are messing around with Ritualist and/or status builds since that's kinda the DLC's theme and Sparkfire is the best gun for both status builds and Ritualist.

It also looks and sounds great which will make a weapon popular in any game.

[Rod, of eight toes]

Originally posted by Butcher:

Indeed. For instance, challenger starts with nearly the best weapons in the entire game with fattest damage and I am yet to find anything better.

Oh buddy you've got so much left in this game to discover

[Rod, of eight toes]

Originally posted by Xaelon:

There are no other long guns with innate elemental damage OR that cause status effects with their primary fire.

While that's true, you can turn any long gun into a bleed weapon using the twisting wounds mutator.

[LittleEtherKitty]

Originally posted by Rod, of eight toes:

Originally posted by Xaelon:

There are no other long guns with innate elemental damage OR that cause status effects with their primary fire.

While that's true, you can turn any long gun into a bleed weapon using the twisting wounds mutator.

Better to just smack twisting wounds or fetid wounds onto the sparkfire, proc 2 elements on a ritualist build.

[Rod, of eight toes]

Define better. Because if I don't want to play a shotgun build, your suggestion definitely isn't better.

[LittleEtherKitty]

Originally posted by Rod, of eight toes:

Define better. Because if I don't want to play a shotgun build, your suggestion definitely isn't better.

Fair enough. Better doesn't take into account preferences, here.

[Grizzly]

Originally posted by Rod, of eight toes:

Originally posted by Xaelon:

There are no other long guns with innate elemental damage OR that cause status effects with their primary fire.

While that's true, you can turn any long gun into a bleed weapon using the twisting wounds mutator.

you can also turn any guns that does crits into an acid weapon

[Atma]

Originally posted by Rod, of eight toes:

Define better. Because if I don't want to play a shotgun build, your suggestion definitely isn't better.

Well, a lot of people are playing around w/ builds that stack different elements on a target to benefit from things like Ahanae Crystal.

In that case, putting fire + bleed or fire + corrosive is better economy than a weapon that only deals one element.

[Hazel]

I'm using sparkfire and enigma.. shid... I mostly play alone and with a couple friends. I'm phasing the enigma out but ... I love a chunky shotgun...

[LittleEtherKitty]

Originally posted by Grizzly:

Originally posted by Rod, of eight toes:

While that's true, you can turn any long gun into a bleed weapon using the twisting wounds mutator.

you can also turn any guns that does crits into an acid weapon

Fetid wounds(acid) and twisted wounds(bleed) are essentially the exact same mutators, except one is acid and the other is bleed. They both proc on weak spot and crit hits.

[PVA Hrondir]

Originally posted by Butcher:

Originally posted by Neyreyan_Youtube:

get engineer and start a new game with engineer, he gets very strong weapons as a base character, saves you 10+ hours of farming on nerud:)

If you mean turret it is kinda unreliable since ammo ends quickly. Challenger shotgun has fat damage with fast reload. Revolver has fat damage in range. Big ass sword has fat damage and AoE sweeps. Nothing in Ayyisha, Nayrude, Cubeworld and in London so far was better.

If you want an upgrade to your sword there's a hidden one in N'erud that's kinda cool, but one of the best swords is in Yaesha, you need to get the corruptor boss not the Ravager though. To get the sword you need to get the alternate kill on Corruptor. I'll leave you to decide if you want to discover what that means on your own, or google it. The other awesome sword Worlds Edge, my favorite one, requires you to beat the campaign on Apocalypse.
The challenger's starter shotgun is pretty sick. but I really like Ford's Scattergun, and the double barrel. It's a build called the Shotgun swapper, the youtuber Phemto made a video on it, and I love the playstyle personally.

[PVA Hrondir]

Originally posted by Sey:

I'm using sparkfire and enigma.. shid... I mostly play alone and with a couple friends. I'm phasing the enigma out but ... I love a chunky shotgun...

The game has some pretty solid shotgun options. I really like the Sporebloom, it hits like a freight train. You can also get the double barrel shotgun for your pistol slot. Honestly, I love all the shotguns the game has to offer, they all feel good in different ways.

[LittleEtherKitty]

Originally posted by PVA Hrondir:

Originally posted by Sey:

I'm using sparkfire and enigma.. shid... I mostly play alone and with a couple friends. I'm phasing the enigma out but ... I love a chunky shotgun...

The game has some pretty solid shotgun options. I really like the Sporebloom, it hits like a freight train. You can also get the double barrel shotgun for your pistol slot. Honestly, I love all the shotguns the game has to offer, they all feel good in different ways.

Have you tried the sporebloom infinite mag rapidfire build? It's specifically meant for boss usage but still decent for general run throughs.