Sunken Witch w/ Trapper

[519B.]

First Encounter in the new DLC is this trash combo, don;t even want to play anymore.
+boss arena is aids

[DoremianCleff]

Neutral dodge doesn't trigger trapper.

[519B.]

Originally posted by DoremianCleff:

Neutral dodge doesn't trigger trapper.

it's not sufficient for getting out of the way either, with y build and explosion turrets going off anyway

[DoremianCleff]

Well, oyur alternatives are just toughing it, rerolling or dropping the game. Maybe coop?

Either way, you can neutral dodge through all of the attacks. Just need to work that timing and watch out for a ground slam, when Witch retreats.

[519B.]

Originally posted by DoremianCleff:

Well, oyur alternatives are just toughing it, rerolling or dropping the game. Maybe coop?

Either way, you can neutral dodge through all of the attacks. Just need to work that timing and watch out for a ground slam, when Witch retreats.

considering just refunding based on the decision that this boss even rolls trapper, f u devs

[Grimzy]

Originally posted by 519B.:

Originally posted by DoremianCleff:

Well, oyur alternatives are just toughing it, rerolling or dropping the game. Maybe coop?

Either way, you can neutral dodge through all of the attacks. Just need to work that timing and watch out for a ground slam, when Witch retreats.

considering just refunding based on the decision that this boss even rolls trapper, f u devs

Every boss can have the affix, Either way, neutral dodge completely negates it. You can also brute force right through it with some builds, or literally melt the witch in 10-15 seconds with other builds. Sometimes you need to adapt to the game and not expec thte game to be adapted to what you are using curerntly.

[LuckyGecko]

Put Points in Fitness so your evade is long enough to leave the Trap.

[Chrisdaman417]

I ended up using engineer and feedback loop ring. If you learn the timing correctly, you can have the turret kill the rats, and dodges kill the boss. It was a rough combo for sure. I don't even know that it was FUN to bear her. Venom with trapper was a much better example of that mutator since the arena is open.

[Grizzly]

id usually call it a skill issue but one thing that is to note is that, your earliest character times are the worst against bosses, and going against some bosses especially can REALLY suck.

i had a bomb throwing lady with regenerator. now think of it this way, i empty my mag in her and 5 sec later she has regenerated the damage, but that wasnt the worst part! she actually is also out of reach so i can only shoot her, no melee, no stagger. it was an impossible boss for my starter character

so what i do now is clearing open world areas first till i cant avoid boss fights anymore and try to take less difficult ones first. when i came back to her i just deleted her that time.

[The Icecream Snowman]

If I'm ever stuck on a boss I just switch into Engineer & Summoner. Drop an impact cannon, and summon a Reaver to do all the hard work for you.

Put on Leto's MkII, and wear the Decayed Margin, Dying ember and Soul Link, then put points into Siphoner.

No need to dodge as you'll be at 100% HP throughout the whole fight, even as the boss whales on you.

[Velmoria]

I think Sunken Witch is dev's take on player's feedback about unreachable bosses & unfriendly toward melee build. Now we are forced to engage her in close range while adding the element of thriller horror troupe like the killer missed a swing and breaks some wood.
At least it added more variety of boss fights.

For the boss herself, kinda difficult to neutral dodge her spinning attack. Way easier to just roll past her and run straight, so managing arena space is important especially against Trapper affix.

Fortunately, she can be face tanked with melee build even in Apocalypse.

[519B.]

Originally posted by Grizzly:

id usually call it a skill issue but one thing that is to note is that, your earliest character times are the worst against bosses, and going against some bosses especially can REALLY suck.

i had a bomb throwing lady with regenerator. now think of it this way, i empty my mag in her and 5 sec later she has regenerated the damage, but that wasnt the worst part! she actually is also out of reach so i can only shoot her, no melee, no stagger. it was an impossible boss for my starter character

so what i do now is clearing open world areas first till i cant avoid boss fights anymore and try to take less difficult ones first. when i came back to her i just deleted her that time.

it is a skill issue, havent played for months.
doesn't make me want to play the DLC coming back tho immediately running into this ho with trapper

the boss herself isnt even that bad, it;s more the trapper affix that makes it aids

[DoremianCleff]

Originally posted by Grizzly:

i had a bomb throwing lady with regenerator. now think of it this way, i empty my mag in her and 5 sec later she has regenerated the damage, but that wasnt the worst part! she actually is also out of reach so i can only shoot her, no melee, no stagger. it was an impossible boss for my starter character

This particular boss has a gimmick that makes her trivial, no matter what level character you have or the damage. Some affixes would make it trickier, but not regenerator. Next time you meet her, i'd suggest try various things and see if you can figure it out.

Originally posted by 519B.:

it is a skill issue, havent played for months.
doesn't make me want to play the DLC coming back tho immediately running into this ho with trapper

the boss herself isnt even that bad, it;s more the trapper affix that makes it aids

Ngl, you'd probably would have figured it out by now. I actually rolled Trapper today and i did have troubles dodging spin attack with neutrals, but it was stamina related. I just swaped my build a bit (1 ring and less weight) and had no issue taking turns. Use any form of AoE on adds, some form of DoT on a Witch for sustained damage, neutral dodge regular attacks and try keep distance against spin attack and use neutrals when she get close. Took me several tries, but i didn't think it was that bad.

[519B.]

Originally posted by DoremianCleff:

Originally posted by Grizzly:

i had a bomb throwing lady with regenerator. now think of it this way, i empty my mag in her and 5 sec later she has regenerated the damage, but that wasnt the worst part! she actually is also out of reach so i can only shoot her, no melee, no stagger. it was an impossible boss for my starter character

This particular boss has a gimmick that makes her trivial, no matter what level character you have or the damage. Some affixes would make it trickier, but not regenerator. Next time you meet her, i'd suggest try various things and see if you can figure it out.

Originally posted by 519B.:

it is a skill issue, havent played for months.
doesn't make me want to play the DLC coming back tho immediately running into this ho with trapper

the boss herself isnt even that bad, it;s more the trapper affix that makes it aids

Ngl, you'd probably would have figured it out by now. I actually rolled Trapper today and i did have troubles dodging spin attack with neutrals, but it was stamina related. I just swaped my build a bit (1 ring and less weight) and had no issue taking turns. Use any form of AoE on adds, some form of DoT on a Witch for sustained damage, neutral dodge regular attacks and try keep distance against spin attack and use neutrals when she get close. Took me several tries, but i didn't think it was that bad.

i just went elsewhere for now, i'll come back when i've warmed up to the game again.

"Use any form of AoE on adds, some form of DoT"
I am but it's explosions so neutral dodge makes that hard to dodge on top of the witch, idk i tried swap to aoe shockwave turret and wasnt as good

** "but it was stamina related"
speaking of...she also has Drain, is that stamina or HP?

[DoremianCleff]

It's HP drain if i recall correctly.

By DoT i mean either fire, corrosive, overload or bleed. Corrosive usually sticks for longest. See if you have some mods that allow you to damage her without you doing anything. Anything that just stays active indefinitelly, like summons or ground effects. Mods easy to swap and they are as strong as weapon you put them in, unless you use two boss weapons.

[[WOLF] Lord Remize]

Originally posted by 519B.:

First Encounter in the new DLC is this trash combo, don;t even want to play anymore.
+boss arena is aids

Had the same at the start, just gotta push through it and the game will grow on you.