Starshot And Multiplayer Problem

[Sparky862]

Okay, so what is the deal with this? I mean I have maxed out Kinship, if you don't have it and by accident my Starshot touches you and deals damage, why kick me for it?

Why don't you invest in Kinship and not take that much damage?

[Grizzly]

lol, at this point you sound like a troll. expecting others to use kinship cause you deal team damage to them

[Leoscar]

Because even if they have kinship Starshot still knocks down everyone in the area of effect, and ennemies will most likely kill the affected players during the standing back up animation. In Apocalypse it's a death sentence.

So in general : just don't use explosion or AOE builds that can stagger or kill other players in coop. It's just annoying to play with.

[Sparky862]

Originally posted by Grizzly:

lol, at this point you sound like a troll. expecting others to use kinship cause you deal team damage to them

Not my fault the gun has massive AoE

[Grizzly]

Originally posted by Sparky862:

Originally posted by Grizzly:

lol, at this point you sound like a troll. expecting others to use kinship cause you deal team damage to them

Not my fault the gun has massive AoE

only the mod has a big AoE, the normal shots AoE is so small that you can shoot at an enemy 1,5 meter infront of you and you wont get hit

[Sparky862]

Originally posted by Leoscar:

Because even if they have kinship Starshot still knocks down everyone in the area of effect, and ennemies will most likely kill the affected players during the standing back up animation. In Apocalypse it's a death sentence.

So in general : just don't use explosion or AOE builds that can stagger or kill other players in coop. It's just annoying to play with.

True, but it's not like you shoot at your team on purpose. They were no where near the point of impact.

[Sparky862]

Originally posted by Grizzly:

Originally posted by Sparky862:

Not my fault the gun has massive AoE

only the mod has a big AoE, the normal shots AoE is so small that you can shoot at an enemy 1,5 meter infront of you and you wont get hit

My normal shots AoE damages Players close to the Boss

[Vexillarius]

Just on this note. People that use witchfire in multiplayer suck balls also.

[Pride Lizard Pride Lizard]

Ultimately explosives and FF come down to coordination and communication. Anything with AoE is fine so long as you've got a steady aim and it's clear where you're aiming.

[Velmoria]

The problem is the user.
I'm sure most players have enough patience to take few friendly fire, but no one likes a repeat offender and oblivious about it. So mind your shots especially if it has AoE.

If you aware that one of your party member is close to the Boss, then at least don't spam your explosives especially when equipped with Detonation Trigger amulet or just switch to primary weapon. If you creative enough, your could shoot it at floor near the Boss but away from other players.
Always maintain basic weapon safety rules and don't compete targets. The goal is to get through the stage. Not DPS racing or kill count.

Originally posted by Vexillarius:

Just on this note. People that use witchfire in multiplayer suck balls also.

^that
Even if the damage is tickles due to Kindship trait & my tanky build, the succ-tion still annoying.

[Sparky862]

Originally posted by Velmoria:

The problem is the user.
I'm sure most players have enough patience to take few friendly fire, but no one likes a repeat offender and oblivious about it. So mind your shots especially if it has AoE.

If you aware that one of your party member is close to the Boss, then at least don't spam your explosives especially when equipped with Detonation Trigger amulet or just switch to primary weapon. If you creative enough, your could shoot it at floor near the Boss but away from other players.
Always maintain basic weapon safety rules and don't compete targets. The goal is to get through the stage. Not DPS racing or kill count.

Originally posted by Vexillarius:

Just on this note. People that use witchfire in multiplayer suck balls also.

^that
Even if the damage is tickles due to Kindship trait & my tanky build, the succ-tion still annoying.

No Witchfire is not the Nado....I ran Witchfire with my Build and stopped using it because people would run into my flames and kick me for using the Mod. I would shoot the flame away from the user, he would dodge roll a Boss attack and roll in to my Flames.

Witchfire is the mod that lets you shot a flame line where you aim at.

Now I am using Starshot and it's the same problem. Normal Shots also apply fire to my Team and even when using the Mod correctly and not shooting in to Friendlies, they still kick you even if they only get knocked back.

I mean, it's not like I am spamming the Mod ... I only open with it then switch to my Primary.

[Velmoria]

Originally posted by Sparky862:

No Witchfire is not the Nado....I ran Witchfire with my Build and stopped using it because people would run into my flames and kick me for using the Mod. I would shoot the flame away from the user, he would dodge roll a Boss attack and roll in to my Flames.

Witchfire is the mod that lets you shot a flame line where you aim at.

Now I am using Starshot and it's the same problem. Normal Shots also apply fire to my Team and even when using the Mod correctly and not shooting in to Friendlies, they still kick you even if they only get knocked back.

I mean, it's not like I am spamming the Mod ... I only open with it then switch to my Primary.

Ah, sorry, got distracted by the word "suck".
Well I can guess that host got sick about that AoE weapon being the cause of friendly fire so often and he is not using tanky build.
I spammed Meridian with maxed Amplitude which result 6 meters radius bombardment and haven't got kicked so far. Rarely hit anyone unless they keep sprint forward, though mostly they stop and watch the fireworks.

[Xaelon]

People don't like randomly getting knocked down mostly. It's really annoying and can get you killed if it happens at the wrong time.

As much as I love Star Shot it's really not a team-friendly weapon. That goes double if you're also running the maxed +AOE trait too.

If you want a similar level of AoE and damage that won't hit your teammates run Ritualist with the second skill.

[Sparky862]

Originally posted by Xaelon:

People don't like randomly getting knocked down mostly. It's really annoying and can get you killed if it happens at the wrong time.

As much as I love Star Shot it's really not a team-friendly weapon. That goes double if you're also running the maxed +AOE trait too.

If you want a similar level of AoE and damage that won't hit your teammates run Ritualist with the second skill.

I already am running that Class .... because I am building into Bleed, procing the whole area in Bleed over time with just one hit of a bullet or thrown melee.

I am also running the maxed out AoE Trait so everything I do has maxed range.

Well I don't want to use the MP60 or whatever the secondary is called because it's the gun everyone uses mostly, so I don't want to be like the rest.

[Grizzly]

Originally posted by Sparky862:

Originally posted by Grizzly:

only the mod has a big AoE, the normal shots AoE is so small that you can shoot at an enemy 1,5 meter infront of you and you wont get hit

My normal shots AoE damages Players close to the Boss

then dont shoot the players close to enemies.

one of my main builds is an AoE focused build and i never get kicked with it cause i just dont hit team mates. The Area of Impact is 6 meter on my mainly used weapon there.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3127124245

[Mimic]

I hate this.
I ran into so many worlds where someone was using explosion damage, and it got me downed or straight killed because of them. Star shot is the biggest offender.
The worst combo is the Firestorm and Star Shot.