WARNING: This game runs like Hot Garbage on 90% of PCs out there

[King Hadu]

Just an FYI for those thinking of buying this game you can do as I did and get it for $15 on Epic Games they give you a 33% cupon on checkout which brings the price down to $15 and honestly even that is asking too much.

This game if you google any benchmark runs like hot garbage because they used UE5 for marketing purposes and NOT because this game pushes any sort of graphical fidelity.

The end result is having RTX 3090 TI 24GB video cards struggling to meet 45 FPS if you don't have the latest cutting edge to run what is one of the most broken poorly optimized games out there then look elsewhere.

Don't even think about using an Intel ARC GPU because it's literally unplayable

The best bet is wait for this to become FREE On EPIC GAMES store You will have to wait about a year again.

I would even go out of my way to call this game a outright scam it's performance is even WORSE than The Day Before.

For example the RTX 4090 just barely managed to pull past 60 FPS in town. Performance will vary but in large fight scenes and town etc you can expect a 4090 to barely get 60FPS

[LittleEtherKitty]

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This is the most ridiculous rant I've ever seen LOL

When you've got some actual evidence of this being a problem for "ALL" or "MOST" PCs, feel free to post it, until then, objectively speaking, it's just a lie.

So are you claiming there's a pc with a 3060 out there that can magically run this game as well as it can run RE 4? 1080p native at 100 fps?

Every video on youtube shows the game to be more demanding than most think it should be. Do you have any evidence that shows otherwise?

My friend runs it on a 1660GTX and plays it just fine, I'm running on a 570 and run it mostly fine. Both of these get outperformed by a 3060. I get great frames in everywhere except for Yaesha.

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Origineel geplaatst door LittleEtherKitty:

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So are you claiming there's a pc with a 3060 out there that can magically run this game as well as it can run RE 4? 1080p native at 100 fps?

Every video on youtube shows the game to be more demanding than most think it should be. Do you have any evidence that shows otherwise?

My friend runs it on a 1660GTX and plays it just fine, I'm running on a 570 and run it mostly fine. Both of these get outperformed by a 3060. I get great frames in everywhere except for Yaesha.

In RE 4 RX 570 gets 80 fps at native 1080p. Remnant 2 gets 30 fps at 1080p native.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C26zXMWXwhA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW9Xwdb72NQ

From PC Gamer:

"But the bigger issue here is the way this is being perceived as the beginning of a negative trend for PC gaming.

Upscaling is a crowning achievement for all involved: it represents (mostly) free performance, doesn't cost a penny, and huge swathes of PC gamers can utilise it on their machines. It's really a big deal for gaming, has negated a lot of the performance penalties of graphical techniques such as ray tracing, and is only set to become even more impressive. The thing is, if it becomes an accepted part of the baseline performance, it no longer acts as that performance boost players feel it to be.

Then there's the threat that upscaling becomes a way to cut corners for optimisation. That's already a sore subject due to the state of many PC games at release as of late. Looking back at some of those game releases, it's safe to say that there have been a few that essentially used upscaling as a crutch for performance prior to Remnant 2, especially at more demanding settings, but we've never had a developer come out and say it so plainly, which is why I think Remnant 2's devs are taking the brunt of backlash.

We've already begun to see upscaling technologies as a keystone of a game's settings menu, and with that sort of ubiquity there are going to be examples of games that run poorly without some form of upscaling enabled. Whether that's how every game will function in the future, I don't believe Remnant 2 alone is setting this precedent, but I'm also hoping that it doesn't become the inevitable future of PC gaming."

https://www.pcgamer.com/remnant-2s-upscaling-settings-are-more-necessity-than-nicety-and-players-arent-happy-about-it/

[LittleEtherKitty]

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Origineel geplaatst door LittleEtherKitty:

My friend runs it on a 1660GTX and plays it just fine, I'm running on a 570 and run it mostly fine. Both of these get outperformed by a 3060. I get great frames in everywhere except for Yaesha.

In RE 4 RX 570 gets 80 fps at native 1080p. Remnant 2 gets 30 fps at 1080p native.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C26zXMWXwhA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW9Xwdb72NQ

From PC Gamer:

"But the bigger issue here is the way this is being perceived as the beginning of a negative trend for PC gaming.

Upscaling is a crowning achievement for all involved: it represents (mostly) free performance, doesn't cost a penny, and huge swathes of PC gamers can utilise it on their machines. It's really a big deal for gaming, has negated a lot of the performance penalties of graphical techniques such as ray tracing, and is only set to become even more impressive. The thing is, if it becomes an accepted part of the baseline performance, it no longer acts as that performance boost players feel it to be.

Then there's the threat that upscaling becomes a way to cut corners for optimisation. That's already a sore subject due to the state of many PC games at release as of late. Looking back at some of those game releases, it's safe to say that there have been a few that essentially used upscaling as a crutch for performance prior to Remnant 2, especially at more demanding settings, but we've never had a developer come out and say it so plainly, which is why I think Remnant 2's devs are taking the brunt of backlash.

We've already begun to see upscaling technologies as a keystone of a game's settings menu, and with that sort of ubiquity there are going to be examples of games that run poorly without some form of upscaling enabled. Whether that's how every game will function in the future, I don't believe Remnant 2 alone is setting this precedent, but I'm also hoping that it doesn't become the inevitable future of PC gaming."

https://www.pcgamer.com/remnant-2s-upscaling-settings-are-more-necessity-than-nicety-and-players-arent-happy-about-it/

I'll literally be sitting here with youtube playing on max graphics in the background, multiple twitch streams on max graphics running, and playing Remnant 2. I've had fine graphics and fps. If this review is accurate, how do you explain that? Yaesha being an exception.

[Razumen]

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Lol, I'm running this on a 1070ti, and it runs fine.

Change your settings, not everything needs to be on ultra.

What's your upscaling setting?

I can use Quality setting and get 60fps most of the time, but I leave it at balanced just for the stability. Still looks good. It's a UE5 engine game using tech like nanite, so it's not surprising it's harder on my card than say, Evil West, which I can get 90+ FPS without upscaling.

I can't fathom how cards that are supposedly much faster can't manage it without upscaling though, unless they're those people that think that anything under 120 fps is "unplayable" but absolutely refuse to tinker with settings. Most of the time a lot of the settings can be turned down for big FPS boosts without making a huge world of visual difference.

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Origineel geplaatst door LittleEtherKitty:

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In RE 4 RX 570 gets 80 fps at native 1080p. Remnant 2 gets 30 fps at 1080p native.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C26zXMWXwhA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW9Xwdb72NQ

From PC Gamer:

"But the bigger issue here is the way this is being perceived as the beginning of a negative trend for PC gaming.

Upscaling is a crowning achievement for all involved: it represents (mostly) free performance, doesn't cost a penny, and huge swathes of PC gamers can utilise it on their machines. It's really a big deal for gaming, has negated a lot of the performance penalties of graphical techniques such as ray tracing, and is only set to become even more impressive. The thing is, if it becomes an accepted part of the baseline performance, it no longer acts as that performance boost players feel it to be.

Then there's the threat that upscaling becomes a way to cut corners for optimisation. That's already a sore subject due to the state of many PC games at release as of late. Looking back at some of those game releases, it's safe to say that there have been a few that essentially used upscaling as a crutch for performance prior to Remnant 2, especially at more demanding settings, but we've never had a developer come out and say it so plainly, which is why I think Remnant 2's devs are taking the brunt of backlash.

We've already begun to see upscaling technologies as a keystone of a game's settings menu, and with that sort of ubiquity there are going to be examples of games that run poorly without some form of upscaling enabled. Whether that's how every game will function in the future, I don't believe Remnant 2 alone is setting this precedent, but I'm also hoping that it doesn't become the inevitable future of PC gaming."

https://www.pcgamer.com/remnant-2s-upscaling-settings-are-more-necessity-than-nicety-and-players-arent-happy-about-it/

I'll literally be sitting here with youtube playing on max graphics in the background, multiple twitch streams on max graphics running, and playing Remnant 2. I've had fine graphics and fps. If this review is accurate, how do you explain that? Yaesha being an exception.

Those things use a little bit of cpu and ram and I guess you're playing at sub hd res?

Origineel geplaatst door Razumen:

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What's your upscaling setting?

I can use Quality setting and get 60fps most of the time, but I leave it at balanced just for the stability. Still looks good. It's a UE5 engine game using tech like nanite, so it's not surprising it's harder on my card than say, Evil West, which I can get 90+ FPS without upscaling.

I can't fathom how cards that are supposedly much faster can't manage it without upscaling though, unless they're those people that think that anything under 120 fps is "unplayable" but absolutely refuse to tinker with settings. Most of the time a lot of the settings can be turned down for big FPS boosts without making a huge world of visual difference.

I know Remnant 2 is uses a high tech engine but when people see a game like RDR 2 running at double the framerate it leads people to believe the game isn't well optimized.

[Razumen]

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I know Remnant 2 is uses a high tech engine but when people see a game like RDR 2 running at double the framerate it leads people to believe the game isn't well optimized.

Not even close, a 1070ti at 1080p at ultra only gets like 40FPS average. That's very similar to Remnant 2 without upscaling.
https://youtu.be/1k6Ehs89GJs?si=JQbUraWNdYLVNzdg&t=754

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Origineel geplaatst door Razumen:

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I know Remnant 2 is uses a high tech engine but when people see a game like RDR 2 running at double the framerate it leads people to believe the game isn't well optimized.

Not even close, a 1070ti at 1080p at ultra only gets like 40FPS average. That's very similar to Remnant 2 without upscaling.
https://youtu.be/1k6Ehs89GJs?si=JQbUraWNdYLVNzdg&t=754

Low settings RDR 2 is more than double the fps of Remnant 2 low settings. Plus you can turn a few things down for huge fps gains in RDR 2. Only way to get a big gain in this is to use upscaling.

RDR 2 with optimized settings gets a locked 60 fps with a 1070ti

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS_qRPjkYKE

4090 averages 95 fps in RDR 2 and 50 in Remnant 2 so it's quite close to double.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlswicxMCkA&t=752s

[Razumen]

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Low settings RDR 2 is more than double the fps of Remnant 2 low settings. Plus you can turn a few things down for huge fps gains in RDR 2. Only way to get a big gain in this is to use upscaling.

RDR 2 with optimized settings gets a locked 60 fps with a 1070ti

4090 averages 95 fps in RDR 2 and 50 in Remnant 2 so it's quite close to double.

Um, no, changing the settings give a FPS boost in Remnant 2 as well.

Besides you're moving goalposts, of course lowering settings increases FPS, I can lower settings in Remnant 2 and get more FPS too. That's not the point. The point is that RDR2 gets similar performance on the SAME card, but yet somehow Remnant 2 is "unoptimized."

[NONAME]

I played it a bit on 4090 and it manages stable 60 fps, but loads the system more than Ubisoft's Avatar and just a little bit less than Cyberpunk with everything maxed.

However the game looks just marginally better than part 1 (which also ran terribly on top-end hardware at the time).

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Origineel geplaatst door Razumen:

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Low settings RDR 2 is more than double the fps of Remnant 2 low settings. Plus you can turn a few things down for huge fps gains in RDR 2. Only way to get a big gain in this is to use upscaling.

RDR 2 with optimized settings gets a locked 60 fps with a 1070ti

4090 averages 95 fps in RDR 2 and 50 in Remnant 2 so it's quite close to double.

Um, no, changing the settings give a FPS boost in Remnant 2 as well.

Besides you're moving goalposts, of course lowering settings increases FPS, I can lower settings in Remnant 2 and get more FPS too. That's not the point. The point is that RDR2 gets similar performance on the SAME card, but yet somehow Remnant 2 is "unoptimized."

The video you linked shows 100 fps for the 1070ti. In this video you see the 1070ti get 43 on ultra and 48 on low.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVz9aRZGy78&t=23s

Re 4 is a more similar game. 3060 gets 100 fps max settings while Remnant 2 gets 50 fps on low.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gpGDssXVeA&t=329s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOgWPKxL00Y&t=1051s

[LittleEtherKitty]

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Origineel geplaatst door LittleEtherKitty:

I'll literally be sitting here with youtube playing on max graphics in the background, multiple twitch streams on max graphics running, and playing Remnant 2. I've had fine graphics and fps. If this review is accurate, how do you explain that? Yaesha being an exception.

Those things use a little bit of cpu and ram and I guess you're playing at sub hd res?

Origineel geplaatst door Razumen:

I can use Quality setting and get 60fps most of the time, but I leave it at balanced just for the stability. Still looks good. It's a UE5 engine game using tech like nanite, so it's not surprising it's harder on my card than say, Evil West, which I can get 90+ FPS without upscaling.

I can't fathom how cards that are supposedly much faster can't manage it without upscaling though, unless they're those people that think that anything under 120 fps is "unplayable" but absolutely refuse to tinker with settings. Most of the time a lot of the settings can be turned down for big FPS boosts without making a huge world of visual difference.

I know Remnant 2 is uses a high tech engine but when people see a game like RDR 2 running at double the framerate it leads people to believe the game isn't well optimized.

I think. Considering it's a 6 year old used lower graphics card, that's to be expected.

As for the second thing. Leads people to think it is? Why cater to someone who doesn't know what they're talking about?

[LittleEtherKitty]

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I played it a bit on 4090 and it manages stable 60 fps, but loads the system more than Ubisoft's Avatar and just a little bit less than Cyberpunk with everything maxed.

However the game looks just marginally better than part 1 (which also ran terribly on top-end hardware at the time).

I had absolutely no problems with it, on my computer, and it's most definitely not top tier. Why are top tier comps struggling where mine didn't? RX750, btw, on graphics.

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Origineel geplaatst door LittleEtherKitty:

Origineel geplaatst door NONAME:

I played it a bit on 4090 and it manages stable 60 fps, but loads the system more than Ubisoft's Avatar and just a little bit less than Cyberpunk with everything maxed.

However the game looks just marginally better than part 1 (which also ran terribly on top-end hardware at the time).

I had absolutely no problems with it, on my computer, and it's most definitely not top tier. Why are top tier comps struggling where mine didn't? RX750, btw, on graphics.

Different expectations. When a 4090 user is getting 130 fps at native 4k with raytracing in RE 4 they're surprised when Remnant 2 is sub 60 fps at native 4k.

[LittleEtherKitty]

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Origineel geplaatst door LittleEtherKitty:

I had absolutely no problems with it, on my computer, and it's most definitely not top tier. Why are top tier comps struggling where mine didn't? RX750, btw, on graphics.

Different expectations. When a 4090 user is getting 130 fps at native 4k with raytracing in RE 4 they're surprised when Remnant 2 is sub 60 fps at native 4k.

So it's not the garbage people are making it out as, they're just annoyed that it's not as good as they want and are over-exaggerating, then?

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Origineel geplaatst door LittleEtherKitty:

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Different expectations. When a 4090 user is getting 130 fps at native 4k with raytracing in RE 4 they're surprised when Remnant 2 is sub 60 fps at native 4k.

So it's not the garbage people are making it out as, they're just annoyed that it's not as good as they want and are over-exaggerating, then?

I think it's not so much that the performance isn't as good as they want but it's not as good as they expect with what they've seen from other games.