Suggestion for "Regenerator"Suffix

[Xuhybrid]

Bosses may spawn with random suffixes that modify their behavior and stats, some will also add abilities to them.

Regenerator: Adds a powerful health regeneration to the boss.

On Apocalypse this % regen is very oppressive. It can make fights last at least 3 times longer. In order to address this i saw an idea suggested on a Twitch stream.

Imagine if bosses with Regenerator built up grey health. Let's say for example 30% of the damage they take is converted to grey health. They can only regenerate grey health. This brings it more in line with the other suffixes for Abberations and Bosses, especially in Apocalypse where the % regen is also scaled up.

Alternatively the % regen needs to become flat regen.

[Zephkiel]

he.
It's one of my fav mod...
Displacer, teleporter, vicous, skullcracker, tough hide...every single one of those make the fight really longer by themselves, and even more longer provided it make them hit you more often, and a return to the nearest worlds ston is a 100% health regen for them.
Regenerator is literally the underdog of the suffix, it's like a 15874% nerfed empathy, especially in coop where everyone use heart because it's more chaotic

[Tao314zdin]

Don't see nothing wrong with it, as the other person said - it is not even among the strongest.

Or mb I did not meet yet a combo on apoc where it would be of any issue, if so you need to be more specific on the circumstances where it is too strong. Otherwise 3x time looks like giga-exaggeration, IMO it is 1.5x at best on an average build.

[Xuhybrid]

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Don't see nothing wrong with it, as the other person said - it is not even among the strongest.

Or mb I did not meet yet a combo on apoc where it would be of any issue, if so you need to be more specific on the circumstances where it is too strong. Otherwise 3x time looks like giga-exaggeration, IMO it is 1.5x at best on an average build.

Any other suffix is a set amount. Hearty adding 15% health or Elemental Resist only increase the fight length by a small amount. Compared to regen which compounds on itself, exponentially increasing the length of a fight. I think you're both ignorant or liars lol.

İlk olarak Zephkiel tarafından gönderildi:

he.
It's one of my fav mod...
Displacer, teleporter, vicous, skullcracker, tough hide...every single one of those make the fight really longer by themselves, and even more longer provided it make them hit you more often, and a return to the nearest worlds ston is a 100% health regen for them.
Regenerator is literally the underdog of the suffix, it's like a 15874% nerfed empathy, especially in coop where everyone use heart because it's more chaotic

None of those increase the length of the fight or cost you 2+ ammo boxes each encounter. Empathy is literally a worthless suffix. Why are you getting hit.

[Tao314zdin]

İlk olarak Xuhybrid tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Tao314zdin tarafından gönderildi:

Don't see nothing wrong with it, as the other person said - it is not even among the strongest.

Or mb I did not meet yet a combo on apoc where it would be of any issue, if so you need to be more specific on the circumstances where it is too strong. Otherwise 3x time looks like giga-exaggeration, IMO it is 1.5x at best on an average build.

Any other suffix is a set amount. Hearty adding 15% health or Elemental Resist only increase the fight length by a small amount. Compared to regen which compounds on itself, exponentially increasing the length of a fight. I think you're both ignorant or liars lol.

You seem to be rather ignorant on how things work if you bring Hearty up, this is like the dog-league suffix which yeah is nothing, but it is because it needs buff if anything.

I just had Coruptor with regen on apoc, I only noticed it had it because I wanted to see if the guardian bug still worked. And then after dropping the hand down for the 3rd time to be sure I see that boss regened a quarter of HP or so (he starts at 50% if you was not aware). That is noticeable but not remotely brocken.

[Cilutan]

İlk olarak Xuhybrid tarafından gönderildi:

Why are you getting hit.

Lol, so b**thurt. "Why are you getting hit", if you're not getting hit at all you should have plenty of time and damage to kill bosses with regenerator on apocalypse. I have fought Annihilation with regenerator and drain on apocalypse using a tanky build, not a dps build, and it was literally no problem.

Regenerator is perfectly fine as it is, apocalypse is supposed to be oppressive. If you're unhappy with it, play on nightmare or veteran and have fun then.

Also ammo boxes exist to be used.

[Zephkiel]

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İlk olarak Xuhybrid tarafından gönderildi:

Why are you getting hit.

Lol, so b**thurt. "Why are you getting hit", if you're not getting hit at all you should have plenty of time and damage to kill bosses with regenerator on apocalypse. I have fought Annihilation with regenerator and drain on apocalypse using a tanky build, not a dps build, and it was literally no problem.

Regenerator is perfectly fine as it is, apocalypse is supposed to be oppressive. If you're unhappy with it, play on nightmare or veteran and have fun then.

Also ammo boxes exist to be used.

Lol yeah it's so a dumb argument, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about the weakest mod and asking ppl why they are getting hit. If anything, having cleared apoc and HC (not both at once mind you), regenerator boss were a god send.. and, yeah, the hearty argument on top of that was like the cherry on top.
Regenerator is on hearty's power level if you ask me, and only slightly more annoying on boss that are long by design

10/10 thread an OP

[Xuhybrid]

Funny how not a single one of you have refuted my argument but alright, keep patting yourselves on the back. If ammo boxes exist to be used, ask yourself why you need 3x the ammo but it doesn't take 3x as long. By making this point you're literally agreeing with me. Empathy and Hearty don't add anywhere near as much time as Regenerator, you're the ones who brought up this suffixes, not me. If you don't like me dismantling your argument, then don't bring up such weak arguments.

If all you're going to do is agree with me, then i won't wait for you to explain why having the fight take 3x as long is completely fine. I didn't say it's harder, i don't care about the ammo boxes. If you somehow understand English unlike the previous posters, id be happy to hear your point of view.

[Tao314zdin]

İlk olarak Xuhybrid tarafından gönderildi:

why having the fight take 3x as long is completely fine.

Because 3x is BS that I do not wanna know where you took it from. That makes it clear?

[Zephkiel]

İlk olarak Xuhybrid tarafından gönderildi:

Funny how not a single one of you have refuted my argument but alright, keep patting yourselves on the back. If ammo boxes exist to be used,

You literally asked us "why are we getting hit"
If you are at the point where you do no hit run, i dont see why you complain against the weakest suffix

Also above poster did ask you your specifica example. You just come with number out of your ass.

[Cilutan]

İlk olarak Xuhybrid tarafından gönderildi:

Funny how not a single one of you have refuted my argument but alright, keep patting yourselves on the back. If ammo boxes exist to be used, ask yourself why you need 3x the ammo but it doesn't take 3x as long. By making this point you're literally agreeing with me. Empathy and Hearty don't add anywhere near as much time as Regenerator, you're the ones who brought up this suffixes, not me. If you don't like me dismantling your argument, then don't bring up such weak arguments.

If all you're going to do is agree with me, then i won't wait for you to explain why having the fight take 3x as long is completely fine. I didn't say it's harder, i don't care about the ammo boxes. If you somehow understand English unlike the previous posters, id be happy to hear your point of view.

I most sincerely refute your argument. Like I said, regenerator is perfectly fine as it currently is, there is no need whatsoever to change or nerf it in any way.

You do not need 3x the ammo and the fight doesn't take 3x as long, those numbers are completely baseless. I believe I used one ammo box during the regenerator and drain annihilation fight on apocalypse that I mentioned above.

I am in no way agreeing with you. If you're so unhappy with regenerator, add bleeding to your build to reduce the bosses regen. If you're unhappy with the oppressive difficulty of apocalypse difficulty, play on lower difficulties and have fun.

[Zephkiel]

İlk olarak Cilutan tarafından gönderildi:

If you're so unhappy with regenerator, add bleeding to your build to reduce the bosses regen

FML.
Never thought about it.



While Regenerator doesnt warrant it, Empathy does if it count as a heal (and not a true heal)