Remnant II

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Mayhem Aug 24, 2023 @ 11:48am
Remove The Bright Steel Ring
Conceptually this ring existing means everybody should run Leto's armor for every optimal build.

For the cost of 1 ring slot you gain 25% extra DR from armor. In Remnant: FTA, this wasn't an issue since armor carried passive effects and had set bonuses. Since all that changes set-to-set in this game is the evade window and armor values, the item is conceptually broken.

Small passive buffs to lighter armors would have the same balancing effect as removing the ring, but as is there's really only one armor set that's meaningful.
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Kappa Aug 24, 2023 @ 11:53am 
I'd rather having it nerfed, since it was on r1.

Something like the severity of dodge is reduced by 1 or 2 degrees
SkyNet Aug 24, 2023 @ 12:05pm 
They need to generally re-evaluate enemy damage and the value of armor less than heavy. The BSR is a bandaid on the problem of feeling like failing one dodge to an errant strike or standing in ground candy for just a moment will lead to death. I tried playing through, all the way up to completing nightmare in a light armor build with a lot of encumberance reduction to get more DR...and I eventually just put Leto and the BSR on and had a far easier time with less investment. The problem isn't Leto/BSR, its the enemy damage scaling.
Vrynn Aug 24, 2023 @ 12:06pm 
that wuld meen i need to be slower when running around joke aside nah if you want to build armor your build armor it gona be usless on instant ko moves but ring got alot diffrent build so its perfectly fine i dont find myself needing more hp stamina and armor since bosses got the instant ko moves
Auren Wolfstein Aug 24, 2023 @ 12:22pm 
Originally posted by Mayhem:
Conceptually this ring existing means everybody should run Leto's armor for every optimal build.

For the cost of 1 ring slot you gain 25% extra DR from armor. In Remnant: FTA, this wasn't an issue since armor carried passive effects and had set bonuses. Since all that changes set-to-set in this game is the evade window and armor values, the item is conceptually broken.

Small passive buffs to lighter armors would have the same balancing effect as removing the ring, but as is there's really only one armor set that's meaningful.

Doesn't it still give you the stamina penalty of 75% increased stamina usage?
Mayhem Aug 24, 2023 @ 12:22pm 
Originally posted by Vrynn:
that wuld meen i need to be slower when running around joke aside nah if you want to build armor your build armor it gona be usless on instant ko moves but ring got alot diffrent build so its perfectly fine i dont find myself needing more hp stamina and armor since bosses got the instant ko moves

There are very few sync kills obviously armor isn't relevant there, but evades sure are. 25% less damage, especially at higher DR, absolutely prevents being 1 shot by normal hits. Damage doesn't generally blow through 200%+ total effective hp even on Apocalypse.

re: "severity of dodge is reduced by 1 or 2 degrees" yea that would also work for sure, also makes normal heavy evade more relevant as opposed to going all the way to heavy flop.
Mayhem Aug 24, 2023 @ 12:26pm 
Originally posted by Auren Wolfstein:
Originally posted by Mayhem:
Conceptually this ring existing means everybody should run Leto's armor for every optimal build.

For the cost of 1 ring slot you gain 25% extra DR from armor. In Remnant: FTA, this wasn't an issue since armor carried passive effects and had set bonuses. Since all that changes set-to-set in this game is the evade window and armor values, the item is conceptually broken.

Small passive buffs to lighter armors would have the same balancing effect as removing the ring, but as is there's really only one armor set that's meaningful.

Doesn't it still give you the stamina penalty of 75% increased stamina usage?

Yea, but it did the same in Remnant 1 where you only had the two ring slots. You still evade through basically any boss attack combo on apocalypse with BSR and ultra heavy
XHidden DemonX Aug 24, 2023 @ 2:54pm 
Help me, I cant control myself from abusing this power. My friends hate me because they die from 1 hit and I don't even though they deal more damage. This item is ruining my experience and everyone else's, because I cant just NOT use it. When I combo it with the bisected ring i feel so dirty...I am the equivalent to Gollum from lord of the rings. But its time for rehab, please save me from myself and throw it into mount doom.
Funpire Aug 24, 2023 @ 3:04pm 
There are better uses of the ring slot when you factor in actual DR math.
Rena Ichigawa Aug 24, 2023 @ 3:24pm 
The ring gives you fast roll, but you still maintaine the stamina drain, meaning you only get 2-4 rolls max. So no.
PEROXIDE Aug 24, 2023 @ 3:24pm 
It's a PvE game, just don't use it. No one making you.
Roan Shiran Aug 24, 2023 @ 3:32pm 
It should be nerfed. I dont even use it because how busted it is.

Originally posted by Funpire:
There are better uses of the ring slot when you factor in actual DR math.
Do you factor in light dodge best i-frames?
Last edited by Roan Shiran; Aug 24, 2023 @ 3:32pm
CattMeister Aug 24, 2023 @ 3:32pm 
BSR is for the weak, real men go for the misty step (joke ofc)
Neyreyan_Youtube Aug 25, 2023 @ 4:52pm 
Originally posted by Mayhem:
Conceptually this ring existing means everybody should run Leto's armor for every optimal build.

For the cost of 1 ring slot you gain 25% extra DR from armor. In Remnant: FTA, this wasn't an issue since armor carried passive effects and had set bonuses. Since all that changes set-to-set in this game is the evade window and armor values, the item is conceptually broken.

Small passive buffs to lighter armors would have the same balancing effect as removing the ring, but as is there's really only one armor set that's meaningful.
welcome to remnant 2, i personally think the game at release shouldn't have included the nightfall and enigma. Not to mention being able to glitch through doors but the quality management was severly lacking.
We just have to wait 1 year until this game gets good, just like we did with remnant 1
Shiroe (cortana) Aug 25, 2023 @ 4:56pm 
you can still use ultra heavy armor without this ring, you can just get the misty step combo which is even more broken....
Placidusax's Ruin Aug 25, 2023 @ 4:59pm 
instead of removing the ring, i would suggest buffing some other heavy armor, so we won't see leto all the time. maybe buff light/ medium armor a bit more cause many times lagging during coop make the i frame benefit useless.
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Date Posted: Aug 24, 2023 @ 11:48am
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